banishment/dismissal... any good?

[alemulet]

I was thinking about this 2 spells, never tried any of them.. any usefull?

[lronEnema]

Only if you like instakilling bearded devils, mephits, elementals, orthons, demons and the like

Will depend (as with all other spells) on your DC's, btw this is a non-standard DC spell, and spell penetration. However a decently built 1st life character will get good utility out of these spells in the vale.

[alemulet]

Only if you like instakilling bearded devils, mephits, elementals, orthons, demons and the like

Will depend (as with all other spells) on your DC's, btw this is a non-standard DC spell, and spell penetration. However a decently built 1st life character will get good utility out of these spells in the vale.

thx for the info, i was thinking to change cometfall for banishment.. i rly dont use cometfall much and my fvs conj dc is pretty low to matter

[good_ole_corwin]

Only if you like instakilling bearded devils, mephits, elementals, orthons, demons and the like

Also, any *fiendish* mobs afaik. For example pretty much any Shavarath mobs in Vale can be banished.

[Gkar]

Bashishment is absolutely my favorite spell in the Vale.

Or at least it will be until the new instakill pass, after that I don't know

[Nytemeir]

A friend of mine plays a monk, he insists on having these qualities on his weapons/handwraps - it works well for him, he tears through trash like they're not even there.

[squishwizzy]

Do both. With the exception of Amrath, a large number of different critters can be banished in endgame quests. This includes fiendish creatures, devils, demons, elementals, many aberratuions (hounds, evil eyes, and so on).

I don't use it as often in endgame these days as my wizzy does not have the spell pen or DC to make these work well, but I believe they also cause damage on failure. So they can be helpful.

[Purkilius]

Great in Vale and elite Chrono, but that got me thinking does it work in Echrono?

[wax_on_wax_off]

Great in Vale and elite Chrono, but that got me thinking does it work in Echrono?

DC is influenced by Hit Dice so I doubt you'd have much luck in echrono (though it should work in theory vs trash).

[Enoach]

These spells work on Outsiders

While its DC is effected by the Hit Dice of the Target, it can still be a very effective means of removing these creatures from combat - Just a note, it actually does not kill a creature - If forces them back to their home plane.

I actually dread going to some of these planes for fear of meeting up with many of these creatures I have dismissed/banished

[Sarisa]

DC is influenced by Hit Dice so I doubt you'd have much luck in echrono (though it should work in theory vs trash).

I have Banish'ed Mephits in eADQ1, eChains, and eWizKing; and Fiendish Spiders in eServants on my Cleric. Those, however, have a bit lower hit die than the devils in eChrono. In eChrono, it'll most likely be just a small range mass damage spell.

It's well worth slotting in on a Cleric or Wizard when you're in an area where you will face Banish'able mobs. It's really too situational to take on a FvS or Sorc.

[Matuse]

It really shouldn't be affected by any of the instakill changes they are planning for U14. The monsters you banish don't actually die, after all.

[PopeJual]

Banishment is one of my favorite spells ever.

Mephits
Elementals
Bearded Devils
Orthons
Tieflings
Fiend-blooded scorpions/trolls/hippos/breakfast cereals
Devils
Thraak Hounds

All of them go poof when you hit them with Banishment. And you get to take out lots in one shot.

[Lalangamena]

the most important...

you see a beholder, you press sneak, slowly sneak to it from the side and BLAM, no beholder...

[Sarisa]

the most important...

you see a beholder, you press sneak, slowly sneak to it from the side and BLAM, no beholder...

Depends on the Beholder. Some are Eberron natives, and cannot be banished.

[Frezeh]

They are good, I've experienced it in action when I did Undermine (Assault on Stormreach chain) and Banished the earth elemental boss.

[axel15810]

good spell but the problem is it requires a lot of monster knowledge to be used effectively