update on Haunting from Eladrin

[Inferno346]

http://youtu.be/Ux_hOAa7Lng
I do this kind of herding pretty much everywhere, thanks to the 30 second countdown. This is actually a huge nerf for this spell. If you think otherwise, you're delusional.

Yes, this.

Spam Ctrl-F1 when talking!!!! That was painful to watch.

[Ceruleus]

I don't see why they don't just impose a hard cap on the max number of mobs killed (8 for example) and increase the timer to 60sec.

[Chette]

in 99% of quests killing more then 6 monsters at a time with wail never happens. Mobs tend to attack in packs of 3-5 tops, and tend to have 1-2 ranged/casters in siad packs taht immediately disperse the moment they see you. So getting the whole pack was pretty tricky in a group, and still hard solo with invis.

Spoken exactly like somebody who doesn't play a wizard, but is still convinced he knows what's best for them.

I like the proposed change because it targets the main culprit, wail, without penalizing the single-target instakills, and without punishing people for having a high DC.

However, I only support this change if they fix the bug which causes implode, and presumable also this new wail, to get "stuck" on unkillable mobs.

[Azre]

It is obvious you never played with or ran yourself a very good insta killer. You can currently wail as much stuff as you can reasonably collect, or pull this horde over to some outlying archers for a mega wail. It takes some skill, but the good casters do it. Have you not run Sins of Attrition man?

That only works on easy quests, and easy epics. Why don't you go try that on some epic sands for instance, and let me know how it went?.

It also only works if you have a geared and tr'ed pale master, I would love to see a first lifer undergeared land anything on elite Amrath.

[paintedman]

Making spell changes with a large content update strikes me as premature. The complaints of the melees that someone is out shining them should not be a pivot for change, I submit the SDR WotB:

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Wail of the Banshee Necromancy [Death, Sonic]
Level: Death 9, Repose 9, Sor/Wiz 9
Components: V
Casting time: 1 standard action
Range: Close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels)
Area: One living creature/level within a 40-ft.-radius spread
Duration: Instantaneous
Saving Throw: Fortitude negates
Spell Resistance: Yes


You emit a terrible scream that kills creatures that hear it (except for yourself). Creatures closest to the point of origin are affected first.
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Since its inception it has gone through many changes and all to the detriment of the spell. I would need to know why this focus on this particular spell has garnered so much attention before I would agree to any "more" changes to it.

If it is just to appease the hand to hand group then I say sorry, not good enough.

Give us more information so we can understand why you have tried so many things, h2k, haunting, and now this.

-paint

[Vordax]

Spoken exactly like somebody who doesn't play a wizard, but is still convinced he knows what's best for them.

I like the proposed change because it targets the main culprit, wail, without penalizing the single-target instakills, and without punishing people for having a high DC.

However, I only support this change if they fix the bug which causes implode, and presumable also this new wail, to get "stuck" on unkillable mobs.

And because wail affects a lot less mob types it will get stuck a whole lot more often.

[MRMechMan]

it's been several months since i've done this, but i remember in shroud part 1 if i would cast implosion at a portal to kill trash, it pretty much always targeted the portal with every tick (nice, right?)

This. Still happens.

Luring trogs away from the portal or learning *exactly* what distance to stand away so that it can target the trog and not the portal is REALLY annoying.


Increase the cooldown, OK. Cap the number of mobs effected, OK.

Do both of those, meh, but...OK.

Increase mob fort saves/SR? YES PLEASE. Stop nerfing and give harder content.

We already have implosion in the game. Reducing wails effectiveness is alright as it is overpowered but implosion clone? No thanks.