human THF fvs?

[tekkentroop]

Hello,

I want to TR my old cleric into a FVS, but Im not sure what kind of build... should be pure human fvs for healing capstone and extra feat, but Im not sure what direction to go for.

tomes eaten: +4 str (from 20th ToD turn-in) +3 wis +2 all others
gear: con-op goggles, triple air bracers, cha and str ToD rings, blue scale robe, an assortment greataxes

with the +4 str tome and instakill ward in expansion, Id like to go melee focused, preferably THF since TWF doesnt work too well on a pure FVS.

stats:

18 str +5 lvl ups
16 con
10 wis
14 cha

feats:

greataxe proficiency (might swap to greatsword at 18 for terror, hoping for esos one day)
IC:slash
Power attack? maybe no good after expansion
toughness

maximize
empower? maybe not good after expansion, but still nice with capstone and efficient empower enh.
empower healing
quicken

is this a really bad idea? any crucial feats I overlooked? should I go evoker anyway?

[Terebinthia]

Check out the Superior Soul thread in builds - lots of good info on the balance points between caster and melee - not quite what you seem to be going for here but I can recommend - have heaps of fun with mine. Worth considering if hybrid caster / melee might be of interest.

[AtomicMew]

Helf + fighter dill is superior. It isn't good to specialize if you plan to do serious melee beyond terror, there are too many variables in terms of DR and weaponry.

[tekkentroop]

I dont have helf or horc... must be human.

[alemulet]

Hello,

I want to TR my old cleric into a FVS, but Im not sure what kind of build... should be pure human fvs for healing capstone and extra feat, but Im not sure what direction to go for.

tomes eaten: +4 str (from 20th ToD turn-in) +3 wis +2 all others
gear: con-op goggles, triple air bracers, cha and str ToD rings, blue scale robe, an assortment greataxes

with the +4 str tome and instakill ward in expansion, Id like to go melee focused, preferably THF since TWF doesnt work too well on a pure FVS.

stats:

18 str +5 lvl ups
16 con
10 wis
14 cha

feats:

greataxe proficiency (might swap to greatsword at 18 for terror, hoping for esos one day)
IC:slash
Power attack? maybe no good after expansion
toughness

maximize
empower? maybe not good after expansion, but still nice with capstone and efficient empower enh.
empower healing
quicken

is this a really bad idea? any crucial feats I overlooked? should I go evoker anyway?

about the stats, why 10 wiz? even with +3 wiz tome your dc will be crappy... dumb wiz, put the points in cha (better sp bar) or in dex... with new expansion coming i wont plan anything in gear, but you arent wrong for now

[WruntJunior]

Helf + fighter dill is superior. It isn't good to specialize if you plan to do serious melee beyond terror, there are too many variables in terms of DR and weaponry.

I would recommend this route as well...just capped Youngwrunt after TRing him from WF to get more healing amp...for leveling, being able to use any martial weapon type is rather nice...at cap, especially with not knowing what really good thf weapons we'll see in the expansion, it's even better.

BTW, don't bother even putting 2 points into wisdom...I'd personally put some into int before wisdom for more skill points. As for feats, no reason to not have power attack and empower...they may no longer be mostly-on feats after the expansion, but there will likely be situations where you'd rather like to have them.

As an addendum, the helf fvs like I describe (effectively very similar to yours) is rather effective...took it into solo elite sins to test the character after capping, and it's certainly capable (this is a good test on a melee, even a FvS, as long as you don't rely too heavily on blade barrier or the like).

As for if you should go caster or melee...unless you want to do multiple past lives, combined isn't an option...but after that, it really comes down to preference (especially with the insta-kill nerf being completely reversed). As a side point, if eSoS stays on top...take a look at that red scale. :P

Edit: Just saw that you posted you don't have helf...in that case, for the time being, go with whatever your best selection of thf weapons is as a human, then try to unlock helf at some point if you can...martial proficiency as a pure FvS is rather nice (especially between the capstone DR and the potential for rather good healing amp combined with the free clw).

[SirValentine]

stats:

18 str +5 lvl ups
16 con
10 wis
14 cha

If you want to go Str-based, and have build 2 points left over after you take care of Str, Con, and Cha, I'd suggest they'd be better spent on Int than Wis. An extra skill point will let you pick up, say, UMD in addition to Balance and Concentration, or Intim, or even just Haggle for more money. 1 point of DC when your DCs are dumped anyway is probably not really all that helpful.

[tekkentroop]

Yeah, I could spend the 2 points in int.. but after seeing the discussion about changing the epic ward into a -dc debuff, Im considering going evoker again... well, I still have 3 DQs to run, so I might just wait until after expansion comes out.

STR-based THF is probably still better for me, I dont want to grind out the caster past lives which would make an evoker really shine, plus its nice at low lvls. Healing ability will be the same as an evoker anyway.

[WruntJunior]

Yeah, I could spend the 2 points in int.. but after seeing the discussion about changing the epic ward into a -dc debuff, Im considering going evoker again... well, I still have 3 DQs to run, so I might just wait until after expansion comes out.

STR-based THF is probably still better for me, I dont want to grind out the caster past lives which would make an evoker really shine, plus its nice at low lvls. Healing ability will be the same as an evoker anyway.

You really should check out the thread again. They're only nerfing wail now. Personally, I have an evoker and a melee because I love both types of FvS (though my evoker won't be a FvS for a while). It really comes down to which you prefer.

As far as past lives being needed for FvS evoker...no. They help, but they're definitely not necessary as long as you go for as high of a DC as humanly possible.

[voodoogroves]

Half Elf is more versatile w/ Fighter dilettante.

This is what I did when I ran this concept as a human, though this is a bit dated.

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=324831