We control our own reality

[Zorth]

The qauntum world is controlled by us.

We can also control a video game to do what we want at that moment in time that is a nano-second or .000001 second before it happens. Even thought the game will not allow it or wants it!

We are Us.

Even if it be positive or negative to us completing a quest. WE ARE IT!

[arminius]

Drugs are bad, m'kay?

[Zorth]

your response tells me you would rather go with humor than to understand and that is ok. You are a minion to me.

[Ragnaroll]

Humor is far funnier than the alternative, and requires no proof to substantiate opinionated claims.

We control the output of our brains for sure, but trying to do that to the combined pseudo reality of an mmo would seriously break game mechanics.

If someone believes the opposite of another who believes just as much, then the only paradox is that truth is not dependant on our perception of it.

I could be wrong of course: always willing to admit that my knowledge base is less than absolute, and more likely obsolete in the light of as yet unknown information.

[Ragnaroll]

Actually some things like: 'I am confident/scared' are self fulfilling prophecies that can change reality.

It's just decisions like: 'I believe my character did. It just get one shotted' or 'the earth is flat' that are taken out of our hands.

I claim dominion over no minions.
Just henchmen, underlings, lackeys and scapegoats - but hey, Santa has all those like slave elves and willy wonka has oompa loompas so whatever.

[Thrudh]

You are a minion to me.

You're not much of an enlightened being with that kind of attitude.

[Memnir]

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[Lonnbeimnech]

There is no my reality. There is no your reality. There is only reality. If a tree falls in the woods and no one is there to hear it, it does make a sound.

There is however my perception of reality and your perception of reality. If your perception of reality is very different from what is reality, that's called delusion.

[Arnhelm]

The only certainty is that something is thinking.

[Grosbeak07]

The only certainty is that something is thinking.

I'm sure it will be outlawed soon in favor of something more economical.

[Feralthyrtiaq]

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Define Control....

Define define....

If your words put food on your table great...otherwise....

Just...

Entertainment...

[Feralthyrtiaq]

The quantum world is fine on its own...

And is crying because it failed to spell itself correctly in its your our OP

[Zorth]

The quantum world is fine on its own...

And is crying because it failed to spell itself correctly in its your our OP

This is proof.

[BOgre]

Quantum theory is being disproved (or at least strongly challenged) on multiple fronts. Newtonian theory is coming back in a big way in the subatomic realm, with the advent of new (semi)Unified Force theories. Plank's constant may soon be deemed completely false....

Don't think too much, we don't have a clue how the universe works.

[Thrudh]

Newtonian theory is coming back in a big way in the subatomic realm

No it isn't.

[BOgre]

No it isn't.

Podkletnov, Znidarsic, Robertson, Birkoff Theorem, New Coulomb Force, Complete Casimir Force, Sattelite Intergral of ESA (directly related to invalidating Plank), ... etc.

Granted, some of this stuff is fringe, and some of it is VERY fringe (crackpot?). However, applying newton to some subatomic behaviors has yielded fruit. Point is, we just don't really know anything, so no holds are barred.

[SableShadow]

Point is, we just don't really know anything, so no holds are barred.

If you're saying "science evolves", then ok.
If you're saying "reality is up for grabs!", then ... good luck with that.

[Adrian99]

Podkletnov, Znidarsic, Robertson, Birkoff Theorem, New Coulomb Force, Complete Casimir Force, Sattelite Intergral of ESA (directly related to invalidating Plank), ... etc.

Granted, some of this stuff is fringe, and some of it is VERY fringe (crackpot?). However, applying newton to some subatomic behaviors has yielded fruit. Point is, we just don't really know anything, so no holds are barred.

Hold on a second here, I think this particular point-of-view is equivocating determinism and predicatability. To say that applying newtonian mechanics to subatomic behaviors has yielded fruit is going too far. Rather, when you remove gravitation effects from certain quantum models, they can predictably reduce to newtonian models. That's not a surprise. Furthermore, to say that we don't know anything is about as far from the truth as you can get. We know an extraordinary amount, but at our current horizon of experience, the complete universe is far more extraordinary than that. And to say no holds are barred is just completely wrong. Not everything is possible, in fact we know that most things that can be imagined are impossible. But even so, there are hard limits on the information we can currently extract from physical phenomena. We hope to break through those limits using technology, and have historically shown great success in doing so. To essentially say that nothing has been accomplished because we have not accomplished it all is remarkably cynical, and gives far too little credit to the levels of understanding that humanity has already achieved. And I wish the expansion pack would come out soon, I'm totally ready to wale on some drow.

[Havok.cry]

Hold on a second here, I think this particular point-of-view is equivocating determinism and predicatability. To say that applying newtonian mechanics to subatomic behaviors has yielded fruit is going too far. Rather, when you remove gravitation effects from certain quantum models, they can predictably reduce to newtonian models. That's not a surprise. Furthermore, to say that we don't know anything is about as far from the truth as you can get. We know an extraordinary amount, but at our current horizon of experience, the complete universe is far more extraordinary than that. And to say no holds are barred is just completely wrong. Not everything is possible, in fact we know that most things that can be imagined are impossible. But even so, there are hard limits on the information we can currently extract from physical phenomena. We hope to break through those limits using technology, and have historically shown great success in doing so. To essentially say that nothing has been accomplished because we have not accomplished it all is remarkably cynical, and gives far too little credit to the levels of understanding that humanity has already achieved. And I wish the expansion pack would come out soon, I'm totally ready to wale on some drow.

Quoted for truth. Especially that last line.

[BOgre]

Furthermore, to say that we don't know anything is about as far from the truth as you can get.

To essentially say that nothing has been accomplished because we have not accomplished it all is remarkably cynical, and gives far too little credit to the levels of understanding that humanity has already achieved.

I don't think I'm saying 'nothing has been accomplished'. Obviously, science helps us predict nature's behavior, and opens the door for technology. What I'm saying is that when the popular scientific belief changed from 'objects desire their natural place' to 'An object at rest stays...', we were no closer to the Truth than we were when we said 'The act of observing a particle...' blah blah blah. I'm well aware that scientific advancement has achieved much, I just don't have any arrogance or pride in either the quantity or quality of that knowledge. I'm saying we're not likely to ever fully grasp Reality, no matter how much we think we 'Know'.