Raid Feedback: Caught in the Web

[ArkoHighStar]

That depends on what you're doing.

If what you're doing is piking, then yes, you may consider stopping that.

If what you're doing is running the raid... well... you're doing it already, so the question is moot.

so basically 1 or 2 people get to play nanny bot for the raid?

[ArkoHighStar]

~O We're caught by the traps
We can't run out
Because we need you too much Ana O~



~O Why can't you see
What you're doin' to me
When I can't understand a word you say? O~



~O We can't go on together
With suspicious grinds (Suspicious grinds)
And we can't build our dreams
On suspicious grinds O~

[Grosbeak07]

so basically 1 or 2 people get to play nanny bot for the raid?

Pretty much what healers do in most raids these days anyway.

[ArkoHighStar]

Pretty much what healers do in most raids these days anyway.

mine heals and does damage. And the main difference I choose to heal players not baby sit bad AI

[Ape_Man]

Can you just put the loot in the store so we don't have to bother with the raid?

[amnota]

That depends on what you're doing.

If what you're doing is piking, then yes, you may consider stopping that.

If what you're doing is running the raid... well... you're doing it already, so the question is moot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KoKWf6pLs8

All that really needs to be said

[Cyr]

You can heal her by having her destroy artifacts. I thought that much was obvious. Added red crosses to the animation, not sure if it's in the latest build you guys have.

Can a player cast a heal spell on her and heal her?

Can a player use any normal means of healing her?

[J1NG]

Can a player cast a heal spell on her and heal her?

Can a player use any normal means of healing her?

Answer to both of those is "No".

She (Ana) can only be healed by destroying the artifacts.

J1NG

[Spartywinz]

That depends on what you're doing.

If what you're doing is piking, then yes, you may consider stopping that.

If what you're doing is running the raid... well... you're doing it already, so the question is moot.

Running the raid does not require doing an optional, so yes it would be stop running the raid and go do an optional.

I can't really type anything else at the moment without breaking forum guidelines.

[terrenceknight1]

Only way to salvage this raid is to drop the loot based on HP mechanic and give players their loot at the end. Y'know like all other raids.

[ArkoHighStar]

Can a player cast a heal spell on her and heal her?

Can a player use any normal means of healing her?

[Drakesblood]

You can heal her by having her destroy artifacts. I thought that much was obvious. Added red crosses to the animation, not sure if it's in the latest build you guys have.

If, say we run this on Epic Elite how could we prevent Lolth from draining Ana of all her health after she breaks an artifact. It seems that every time after we break an artifact she takes all sorts of damage from Lolth eye beams and all the monsters that spawn around her, this acts very counter-intuitive to to the "Extra" chest objective with having her health as high as we can.

Even though there is option for her to not attack enemies, it still hard herding her past/out of hostile encounters. The end fight with Lolth is the worst for keeping Ana at full health if even alive due to how choked the path is to the portal. I would Love it if there was more paths to the end portal so we could have one group act as a decoy and pull stuff away from the barrier while a second group can sneak Ana to safty rather then have Ana get blasted, stepped, smacked off by Lolth.

As much fun it is to fail, I don't want to spend 2-3 hours of hard work in keeping Ana alive and well only to watch the party wipe on a small island FILLED with spellwards. I rather run Coyle 6 times on Eilte as a 6th level Rogue and keep failing at the 1 min mark then run this raid for 1 lousy chest that I could get from any FR quest.

[Nick_RC]

You can heal her by having her destroy artifacts. I thought that much was obvious. Added red crosses to the animation, not sure if it's in the latest build you guys have.

Flimsy - she takes an awful lot of damage whenever she activates an orb... It's supposed to give her HP back... But it is this point she takes the most damage than any other. Will run again tonight I guess

N

[ArkoHighStar]

Flimsy - she takes an awful lot of damage whenever she activates an orb... It's supposed to give her HP back... But it is this point she takes the most damage than any other. Will run again tonight I guess

N

so basically breaking the artifact returns health, but also draws aggro and damage thus negating the benefit?

[kailiea]

so basically breaking the artifact returns health, but also draws aggro and damage thus negating the benefit?

You sir are correct! The best part being the competent AI likes to run full force into Lloths eye beams ultimately soaking up any of the health she gained! You can tell her to run away but we can all guess how that turns out

[Nick_RC]

so basically breaking the artifact returns health, but also draws aggro and damage thus negating the benefit?

Yeah basically. Gonna go back in and try with a lil more finesse but from what I've seen it's a pointless exercise - 1 step forward 2 back. We will see.

N

[Nick_RC]

You sir are correct! The best part being the competent AI likes to run full force into Lloths eye beams ultimately soaking up any of the health she gained! You can tell her to run away but we can all guess how that turns out

Oh and don't forget the legs aggroing on her too. Good times.

[ArkoHighStar]

Yeah basically. Gonna go back in and try with a lil more finesse but from what I've seen it's a pointless exercise - 1 step forward 2 back. We will see.

N

[Cauthey]

Please forgive me for not having experience in the raid...

It would seem that the challenge is manipulating the VIP, and getting her escorted safely. Would it be possible to introduce a hireling-style hotbar for her that allows better control over where she goes, what she does, and what objects you'd have her break?

I am just trying to imagine talking to her, and wading through dialog to get her to operate, and what I'm imagining is a terrible nightmare. It wouldn't be half as bad if a player or two had a hotbar that was specific to leading the NPC through to the objective.

[SableShadow]

It would seem that the challenge is manipulating the VIP, and getting her escorted safely. Would it be possible to introduce a hireling-style hotbar for her that allows better control over where she goes, what she does, and what objects you'd have her break?

That was my impression and recommendation from closed beta ... haven't run the new version.

A *lot* of objections go away if you give players at least the illusion of control.

Maybe people will sort out her AI patterns eventually, and people won't care anymore, but that's my take on it.