Human 13/7 Rogue/Monk build - Please critique/advise :)

[Fenricus]

This is a build based on bits and pieces I have taken from here and there on the forum, most notably Big F'n Stick.

What I was hoping to achieve was a soloable (at least to lvl 15/16) Quarterstaff focussed Rogue/Monk, with decent/reasonable DPS and survivability, who will still be viable for party play at end game. To that end, I specced for Ninja Spy I/Acrobat Thief II, with focus on bludgeoning.

I noticed most builds of this type focus on halfling or Horc, but I have a preference for playing Humans.

Any advice on potential improvements before I roll would be greatly appreciated

EDIT: Particularly with regard to Enhancements. Some I am happy with, but I am aware some may not be beneficial, or would be better if substituted. Many thanks.

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Dahlia Deathdealer
Level 20 Lawful Good Human Female
(7 Monk \ 13 Rogue) 
Hit Points: 278
Spell Points: 0 
BAB: 14\14\19\24
Fortitude: 12
Reflex: 17
Will: 13

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             16                    25
Dexterity            14                    19
Constitution         14                    16
Intelligence         12                    14
Wisdom               14                    18
Charisma              8                    10

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 8
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 8
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 8
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 8
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 8
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 8
+3 Tome of Strength used at level 20

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills        Base Skills        Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)          (Level 20)          (Level 20)
Balance               6                 15                   23
Bluff                 3                 14                   14
Concentration         4                 25                   26
Diplomacy            -1                  0                    0
Disable Device        5                 25                   26
Haggle                3                 14                   16
Heal                  2                  4                    4
Hide                  2                  4                    6
Intimidate           -1                  0                    0
Jump                  5                 16                   22
Listen                2                  4                    4
Move Silently         2                  4                    6
Open Lock             6                 27                   28
Perform              n/a                n/a                   n/a
Repair                1                  2                    2
Search                5                 25                   26
Spot                  6                 27                   28
Swim                  3                  7                    7
Tumble                4                  9                   15
Use Magic Device      3                 23                   23

Level 1 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+4)
Skill: Bluff (+4)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Disable Device (+4)
Skill: Haggle (+4)
Skill: Jump (+2)
Skill: Open Lock (+4)
Skill: Search (+4)
Skill: Spot (+4)
Skill: Tumble (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+4)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Feat: (Human Bonus) Two Handed Fighting


Level 2 (Monk)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Open Lock (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Power Attack


Level 3 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Bluff (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Bludgeoning Weapons


Level 4 (Monk)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Open Lock (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Dodge


Level 5 (Monk)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Open Lock (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Monk Path) Path of Inevitable Dominion: Fists of Darkness


Level 6 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Bluff (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Quick Draw


Level 7 (Monk)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Open Lock (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)


Level 8 (Rogue)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Bluff (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 9 (Monk)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Open Lock (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Handed Fighting


Level 10 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Open Lock (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness


Level 11 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+3)
Skill: Jump (+2)
Skill: Spot (+1)


Level 12 (Rogue)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Bluff (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+3)
Skill: Open Lock (+3)
Skill: Search (+3)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Bludgeoning Weapons


Level 13 (Rogue)
Skill: Disable Device (+3)
Skill: Open Lock (+3)
Skill: Search (+3)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 14 (Rogue)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+4)


Level 15 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+2)
Skill: Bluff (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+2)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Handed Fighting


Level 16 (Rogue)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Bluff (+2)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 17 (Rogue)
Skill: Bluff (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Opportunist


Level 18 (Rogue)
Skill: Bluff (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Power Critical


Level 19 (Rogue)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)


Level 20 (Rogue)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Bluff (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Improved Evasion
Enhancement: Rogue Damage Boost I
Enhancement: Rogue Damage Boost II
Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost II
Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost III
Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost IV
Enhancement: Rogue Skill Boost I
Enhancement: Rogue Skill Boost II
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Strength I
Enhancement: Human Greater Adaptability Wisdom I
Enhancement: Rogue Item Defense I
Enhancement: Static Charge
Enhancement: Way of the Clever Monkey I
Enhancement: Way of the Clever Monkey II
Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Monk Ninja Spy I
Enhancement: Adept of Wind
Enhancement: Adept of Flame
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Rogue Faster Sneaking I
Enhancement: Rogue Thief-Acrobat I
Enhancement: Rogue Thief-Acrobat II
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy I
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training II
Enhancement: Improved Balance I
Enhancement: Improved Balance II
Enhancement: Improved Concentration I
Enhancement: Improved Disable Device I
Enhancement: Improved Jump I
Enhancement: Improved Jump II
Enhancement: Improved Open Lock I
Enhancement: Improved Search I
Enhancement: Improved Spot I
Enhancement: Improved Tumble I
Enhancement: Improved Tumble II
Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity I
Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity II
Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity III
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom I
Enhancement: Rogue Improved Trap Sense I
Enhancement: Rogue Improved Trap Sense II

[Fenricus]

Anybody? No thumbs-up/thumbs-down?

I typically roll casters, so I am confident with building Sorcs and Wizzies. I've also played a pure monk, so I'm kind of okay with that, but this is whole new territory for me. Any input would be helpful, mostly in case I've missed something, or not taken anything into account.

[destiny4405]

enhancements are way off.

dump damage boost, skill boost and pick up human versatility. dump items defense. dump monkey and take the hp one. dump HA wis and take con and racial toughness III. dump adept of flame. dump sneak accuracy and take sneak damage. dump imp concetration, DD, OL, search, spot and trap sense.

check out this build http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?p=3957241#p3957241

[Fenricus]

enhancements are way off.

dump damage boost, skill boost and pick up human versatility. dump items defense. dump monkey and take the hp one. dump HA wis and take con and racial toughness III. dump adept of flame. dump sneak accuracy and take sneak damage. dump imp concetration, DD, OL, search, spot and trap sense.

check out this build http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?p=3957241#p3957241

Thank you kindly! The enhancements were my biggest worry. I shall look at the build you linked.

[unbongwah]

Do you have half-elves? With that much WIS, you could do a HE w/cleric dilly for early self-sufficiency, then swap it out when your UMD is high enough. Otherwise I'd say your WIS is too high unless you're shooting for AC.

Drop WF Blunt for Stunning Blow. Normally I'd say drop Power Crit, except it's due for a boost (finally!) in the expansion - knock on wood, it's won't suck at long last.

I'm not sure why you'd bother putting so few pts into Bluff; wouldn't it make more sense to either max it out or drop it entirely.

[wax_on_wax_off]

Is it staves in particular that you like? I had many of the same goals but was concerned about end game DPS and ended up with an 18 rogue (assassin III)/2 monk unarmed build (vorpal fists!) build with 49 stunning fist DC and 45+ DC on stunning blow and improved sunder (add +1 when I get litany of the dead).

I leveled as a acrobat with awesome AC (basically untouchable except for grazing hits which didn't bother me until amrath) but stayed unarmed as between the attack speed (which means I'm doing similar SA damage as a TWF'ing pure rogue) and stunning fist, quarterstaff just doesn't compare.

The build is in my sig. Also, when U14 hits and I go for Grandmaster of Flowers (I haven't looked at all the possible alternatives but this seems better than Shadowdancer for this style of build) I'll end up with all of the acrobat perks anyway (knockdown immunity etc).

Build is in my sig (Not your average rogue).

[Fenricus]

Is it staves in particular that you like? I had many of the same goals but was concerned about end game DPS and ended up with an 18 rogue (assassin III)/2 monk unarmed build (vorpal fists!) build with 49 stunning fist DC and 45+ DC on stunning blow and improved sunder (add +1 when I get litany of the dead).

I leveled as a acrobat with awesome AC (basically untouchable except for grazing hits which didn't bother me until amrath) but stayed unarmed as between the attack speed (which means I'm doing similar SA damage as a TWF'ing pure rogue) and stunning fist, quarterstaff just doesn't compare.

The build is in my sig. Also, when U14 hits and I go for Grandmaster of Flowers (I haven't looked at all the possible alternatives but this seems better than Shadowdancer for this style of build) I'll end up with all of the acrobat perks anyway (knockdown immunity etc).

Build is in my sig (Not your average rogue).

I've looked at this build yesterday. It looks awesome!!!