Requesting a chance to test Greensteel decon

[sirgog]

If this system goes live with bugs, there will be apoplexy, a huge workload for GMs, and possible real problems. (Or there might be some form of greensteel duping, like the challenge chest duping exploit, or there could be other issues)

Yet as far as I can tell noone has tested it on Lama at all because the Dopants drop in a raid that isn't being run on the test server at all.

Can you please make Dopants available via some means to test this? I'd say that would be a much better use of Dev time than handing the beggars in Eveningstar literally 200+ of each Commendation each like is happening now. (A couple of dozen gets you everything you could want...)

[whereispowderedsilve]

**Just saying** http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=376954

No one commented on it, so it dropped off the 1st page fast!

Anywhoo I'm totally in agreement that this needs to be tested out!

[CheeseMilk]

I would like to test this, too.

Perhaps it will be part of a dev event?

[Jay203]

when you see a dev on, send him/her a tell asking for a couple of those yellow thingies that are needed for the decon?

[Cordovan]

I've put several dozen stacks of Yellow Dopant in the Auction House with a low buyout, and several dozen on a 72 hour auction (just in case someone decides to get, shall we say, greedy...)

Please note that these are in stacks of 100, so it is not necessary to buy them all. Please self-limit yourself to one stack in the Auction House, so other folks can get them for testing as well.

Additionally, if you see me (+Cordovan) on Lamannia today or this weekend, I'd be happy to make some for you. I will set aside 2:00-2:30pm Eastern this afternoon (Friday) to be on Lamannia, but can't give an exact time of me being there Saturday and Sunday yet.

[whereispowderedsilve]

I've put several dozen stacks of Yellow Dopant in the Auction House with a low buyout, and several dozen on a 72 hour auction (just in case someone decides to get, shall we say, greedy...)

Please note that these are in stacks of 100, so it is not necessary to buy them all. Please self-limit yourself to one stack in the Auction House, so other folks can get them for testing as well.

Additionally, if you see me (+Cordovan) on Lamannia today or this weekend, I'd be happy to make some for you. I will set aside 2:00-2:30pm Eastern this afternoon (Friday) to be on Lamannia, but can't give an exact time of me being there Saturday and Sunday yet.

Ddddaaaamnnn!!! Your the best Jerry/Cord! Keep up the great work/cx service!

That's what I call service with a smile! ! :P!: )! Thanks again! Greatly appreciated!

[RandomKeypress]

Thanks Cordovan, I grabbed a stack of dopant and sorted out my poor mis-formed ToD ring, using the Shavarath altar. Much better experience with the new interface and everything was a lot easier. Very nice.

[Jay203]

soooooo
what's the result everyone??

[Cordovan]

Sorry, was busy with workstuff. I'm on Lamannia now, if anyone needs stuff. I will be on until approximately 2:40pm Eastern!

[Drwaz99]

Well, I didn't have a ton of time, so I decon'ed my tier 2 NEG/NEG goggles in Amarath (Wasn't allowed to decon anything that requires a Tier 3 altar)

And I looks like I can't post a SS since I keep getting Internal Server Errors, here's a list of what I got back as it stated in my log:

Great Commander Green Steel Goggles, Yellow Dopant. Created: Medium Length of Infernal Chain, Medium Length of Infernal Chain, Medium Length of Infernal Chain, Medium Twisted Shrapnel, Medium Sulfurous Stone, Medium Length of Infernal Chain, Medium Glowing Arrowhead, Small Glowing Arrowhead, Small Devil Scales, Small Twisted Shrapnel, Small Length of Infernal Chain, Small Devil Scales, Small Gnawed Bone, Shavarath Signet Stone.

[Vargouille]

Great Commander Green Steel Goggles, Yellow Dopant. Created: Medium Length of Infernal Chain, Medium Length of Infernal Chain, Medium Length of Infernal Chain, Medium Twisted Shrapnel, Medium Sulfurous Stone, Medium Length of Infernal Chain, Medium Glowing Arrowhead, Small Glowing Arrowhead, Small Devil Scales, Small Twisted Shrapnel, Small Length of Infernal Chain, Small Devil Scales, Small Gnawed Bone, Shavarath Signet Stone.

Oh, good. The Signet Stone change did make current beta.

I do appreciate this stuff getting extra testing. I can't imagine the pitchforks and burning tar I'd face if there's bugs here.

[Drwaz99]

I would test the Tier 3 effects, yet it's just about impossible to get to a Altar of Devastation on Lama. Esp with no Airship Altars. I'd really want to make sure that dual shards are getting the extra ingredients compared to single shards.

[Gratch]

I had two tier-2 items to tryout on the easy to reach with no raid/ship altar.

(Standard): Altar of Subjugation success with Equipment Deconstruction! Consumed: Great Commander Green Steel Weave Boots of Existential Stalemate, Yellow Dopant.

Created: Medium Devil Scales, Medium Twisted Shrapnel, Medium Sulfurous Stone, Medium Length of Infernal Chain, Medium Gnawed Bone, Small Gnawed Bone, Small Devil Scales, Small Devil Scales, Small Devil Scales, Small Devil Scales, Small Length of Infernal Chain, Small Length of Infernal Chain, Shavarath Signet Stone.

(Standard): Altar of Subjugation success with Weapon Deconstruction! Consumed: +5 Great Commander Green Steel Longsword of Elemental Resilience, Yellow Dopant.

Created: Medium Twisted Shrapnel, Medium Twisted Shrapnel, Medium Twisted Shrapnel, Medium Devil Scales, Medium Gnawed Bone, Medium Twisted Shrapnel, Small Twisted Shrapnel, Small Gnawed Bone, Small Sulfurous Stone, Small Devil Scales, Small Sulfurous Stone, Small Devil Scales, Shavarath Signet Stone.

Hmmm... I'll note there's no "confirmation to destroy" pop-up Yes/No.
Only worry would be someone finishes crafting an item, sticks it back on the altar cuz they're crafting late at night and not paying attention and foomph - decon'ed. Eh - probably not that big of a worry. They'd have to put a newly crafted item on the altar, click the only recipe that shows for the crafted item (which would auto-pull the dopant) and click the forge button.

Also - heh 29 pages of recipes per altar. Must have been fun coding.

[Drwaz99]

They'd have to put a newly crafted item on the altar, click the only recipe that shows for the crafted item (which would auto-pull the dopant) and click the forge button.

I have a sneaky suspicion that is why we see the Yellow Dopant (among other reasons). If your crafting and stick a finished item back in, you have to pull out the Dopant from ing bag and put it in (unless you click on the recipe and it's in your inventory).

But I agree, a confirmation would be a nice safeguard as well.

[oberon131313]

grabbed a stack, cut off 10 and relisted on the AH.

Any chance we can get a tier III altar placed somewhere?

[Cordovan]

grabbed a stack, cut off 10 and relisted on the AH.

Any chance we can get a tier III altar placed somewhere?

I have placed an Altar of Devastation next to the mailbox in the Marketplace (sorry it's floating in the air, but at least it works.) The only thing is is that this altar will disappear if the instance gets reset, so I can't promise it'll last through the weekend. I'll try to pop in a couple of times this weekend and re-place it as I can.

[Jay203]

I have placed an Altar of Devastation next to the mailbox in the Marketplace (sorry it's floating in the air, but at least it works.) The only thing is is that this altar will disappear if the instance gets reset, so I can't promise it'll last through the weekend. I'll try to pop in a couple of times this weekend and re-place it as I can.

omg, that's gold xD

[Drwaz99]

It's another lottery on how much you get back it seems. Decon'ed a LIT2 GA and received 5 Lg Scales back. Then Decon'ed a MIN2 GA, didn't get any lg scales back (but did get 5 chains yeah!):

Altar of Devastation success with Weapon Deconstruction! Consumed: +5 Supreme Tyrant Green Steel Greataxe of Mineral, Yellow Dopant. Created: Large Length of Infernal Chain, Large Length of Infernal Chain, Large Sulfurous Stone, Large Length of Infernal Chain, Large Length of Infernal Chain, Medium Devil Scales, Medium Glowing Arrowhead, Medium Devil Scales, Medium Devil Scales, Medium Glowing Arrowhead, Small Length of Infernal Chain, Small Devil Scales, Small Sulfurous Stone, Small Twisted Shrapnel, Small Devil Scales, Small Sulfurous Stone, Shavarath Signet Stone.

Couple more:

Altar of Devastation success with Equipment Deconstruction! Consumed: Supreme Tyrant Green Steel Goggles (old earth HP goggles), Yellow Dopant. Created: Large Sulfurous Stone, Large Sulfurous Stone, Large Gnawed Bone, Large Glowing Arrowhead, Large Twisted Shrapnel, Large Sulfurous Stone, Large Glowing Arrowhead, Medium Devil Scales, Medium Length of Infernal Chain, Medium Gnawed Bone, Medium Length of Infernal Chain, Medium Devil Scales, Small Twisted Shrapnel, Small Length of Infernal Chain, Small Devil Scales, Small Length of Infernal Chain, Small Gnawed Bone, Small Glowing Arrowhead, Small Gnawed Bone, Shavarath Signet Stone.

Another MIN 2 GA: (one scale for those counting)

(Standard): Altar of Devastation success with Weapon Deconstruction! Consumed: +5 Supreme Tyrant Green Steel Greataxe of Mineral, Yellow Dopant. Created: Large Twisted Shrapnel, Large Length of Infernal Chain, Large Length of Infernal Chain, Large Length of Infernal Chain, Large Devil Scales, Large Gnawed Bone, Medium Devil Scales, Medium Length of Infernal Chain, Medium Twisted Shrapnel, Medium Length of Infernal Chain, Medium Length of Infernal Chain, Medium Sulfurous Stone, Medium Twisted Shrapnel, Small Sulfurous Stone, Small Twisted Shrapnel, Small Devil Scales, Small Sulfurous Stone, Small Sulfurous Stone, Small Twisted Shrapnel, Shavarath Signet Stone.

Altar of Devastation success with Weapon Deconstruction! Consumed: +5 Supreme Tyrant Green Steel Maul of Positive Energy, Yellow Dopant. Created: Large Gnawed Bone, Large Length of Infernal Chain, Large Glowing Arrowhead, Large Length of Infernal Chain, Large Gnawed Bone, Large Devil Scales, Large Devil Scales, Large Glowing Arrowhead, Medium Twisted Shrapnel, Medium Gnawed Bone, Medium Length of Infernal Chain, Medium Twisted Shrapnel, Medium Glowing Arrowhead, Small Twisted Shrapnel, Small Length of Infernal Chain, Small Length of Infernal Chain, Small Glowing Arrowhead, Small Glowing Arrowhead, Shavarath Signet Stone.

[Gratch]

Hmmm... I'll note there's no "confirmation to destroy" pop-up Yes/No.
Only worry would be someone finishes crafting an item, sticks it back on the altar cuz they're crafting late at night and not paying attention and foomph - decon'ed. Eh - probably not that big of a worry. They'd have to put a newly crafted item on the altar, click the only recipe that shows for the crafted item (which would auto-pull the dopant) and click the forge button.

I was wrong. There's no auto-pull on the yellow dopant from your bag or inventory... so probably fine as is.

[Gratch]

Just rammed 8 tier 3 items through the yellow dopant temporary marketplace shavrath altar. Data below. Impressions:

• There are 3 recipes for tier3 deconstruction: regular decon, dual-shard decons (one per type) and distill essence decon
• If you're destroying a dual-shard creation make sure to pick the dual-shard decon EXCEPT
• If you need your essence back from a dual shard equipment piece, you have to select the distill essence (which gives back less) but is the only way to get a cleansing essence back
• PRESENTATION BUG The distill essence recipe was presented/listed/available for any gsteel non-weapon (cleasnsed or tainted) I put on the altar including tier 2 ones... though it only functions on cleansed tier 3 items.

Rewards in the format of total returned: Large/Medium/Small
Mineral 2 Maul (dual) -> Dual Decon: 12/7/5 + signet stone
Radiance 2 Khopesh (dual) -> Dual Decon: 10/6/7 + signet stone
Lightning 2 Khopesh (dual) -> Dual Decon: 10/7/6 + signet stone
Mineral 2 Khopesh (dual) -> Selected Normal Weapon Decon: 6/5/5 + signet stone
Water 2 Warhammer (single) -> Weapon Decon: 7/7/7 + signet stone
Bracers of Triple Air (single) -> EquipDecon: 7/6/7 + signet stone
Lightning 2 Goggles (dual+cleansed) -> Dual Decon: 11/5/5 + signet stone
Mineral 2 Cloak (dual+cleansed) -> Distill Essence: 5/7/7 + signet stone + essence of cleansing

So the only real downside (other than half what you put into it) I see is if you currently want your essence of cleansing back, you wont get very good return on a dual infused equipment item. Though maybe they'll add essence dual rituals for all the dual types.... probably not.


If you want to know if the dual return gave back any specific mix of ingreds for a particular recipe. I dunno. Here's my details.

Min2 Maul:
Consumed: +5 Supreme Tyrant Green Steel Maul of Mineral, Yellow Dopant. Created: Large Gnawed Bone, Large Glowing Arrowhead, Large Gnawed Bone, Large Devil Scales, Large Glowing Arrowhead, Large Gnawed Bone, Large Devil Scales, Large Length of Infernal Chain, Large Twisted Shrapnel, Large Glowing Arrowhead, Large Glowing Arrowhead, Large Gnawed Bone, Medium Length of Infernal Chain, Medium Twisted Shrapnel, Medium Gnawed Bone, Medium Sulfurous Stone, Medium Devil Scales, Medium Sulfurous Stone, Medium Glowing Arrowhead, Small Twisted Shrapnel, Small Length of Infernal Chain, Small Glowing Arrowhead, Small Devil Scales, Small Twisted Shrapnel, Shavarath Signet Stone.

Rad2 Khopesh:
(Standard): Altar of Devastation success with Radiance Weapon Deconstruction! Consumed: +5 Supreme Tyrant Green Steel Khopesh of Radiance, Yellow Dopant. Created: Large Devil Scales, Large Sulfurous Stone, Large Length of Infernal Chain, Large Glowing Arrowhead, Large Devil Scales, Large Devil Scales, Large Devil Scales, Large Length of Infernal Chain, Large Length of Infernal Chain, Large Length of Infernal Chain, Medium Sulfurous Stone, Medium Gnawed Bone, Medium Sulfurous Stone, Medium Sulfurous Stone, Medium Sulfurous Stone, Medium Sulfurous Stone, Small Sulfurous Stone, Small Length of Infernal Chain, Small Glowing Arrowhead, Small Gnawed Bone, Small Devil Scales, Small Gnawed Bone, Small Length of Infernal Chain, Shavarath Signet Stone.

Lit2 Khopesh:
(Standard): Altar of Devastation success with Lightning Strike Weapon Deconstruction! Consumed: +5 Supreme Tyrant Green Steel Khopesh, Yellow Dopant. Created: Large Twisted Shrapnel, Large Glowing Arrowhead, Large Twisted Shrapnel, Large Sulfurous Stone, Large Length of Infernal Chain, Large Twisted Shrapnel, Large Gnawed Bone, Large Gnawed Bone, Large Length of Infernal Chain, Large Glowing Arrowhead, Medium Devil Scales, Medium Twisted Shrapnel, Medium Glowing Arrowhead, Medium Devil Scales, Medium Devil Scales, Medium Sulfurous Stone, Medium Sulfurous Stone, Small Sulfurous Stone, Small Sulfurous Stone, Small Sulfurous Stone, Small Sulfurous Stone, Small Devil Scales, Small Glowing Arrowhead, Shavarath Signet Stone.

Min2 Khopesh as norm wep decon:
(Standard): Altar of Devastation success with Weapon Deconstruction! Consumed: +5 Supreme Tyrant Green Steel Khopesh of Mineral, Yellow Dopant. Created: Large Twisted Shrapnel, Large Gnawed Bone, Large Glowing Arrowhead, Large Length of Infernal Chain, Large Sulfurous Stone, Large Twisted Shrapnel, Medium Glowing Arrowhead, Medium Twisted Shrapnel, Medium Twisted Shrapnel, Medium Glowing Arrowhead, Medium Twisted Shrapnel, Small Gnawed Bone, Small Sulfurous Stone, Small Glowing Arrowhead, Small Gnawed Bone, Small Sulfurous Stone, Shavarath Signet Stone.

WHammer of water norm wep decon:
(Standard): Altar of Devastation success with Weapon Deconstruction! Consumed: +5 Supreme Tyrant Green Steel Warhammer of Water, Yellow Dopant. Created: Large Glowing Arrowhead, Large Twisted Shrapnel, Large Length of Infernal Chain, Large Gnawed Bone, Large Twisted Shrapnel, Large Glowing Arrowhead, Large Glowing Arrowhead, Medium Sulfurous Stone, Medium Gnawed Bone, Medium Glowing Arrowhead, Medium Glowing Arrowhead, Medium Devil Scales, Medium Length of Infernal Chain, Medium Length of Infernal Chain, Small Twisted Shrapnel, Small Twisted Shrapnel, Small Length of Infernal Chain, Small Sulfurous Stone, Small Glowing Arrowhead, Small Twisted Shrapnel, Small Gnawed Bone, Shavarath Signet Stone.

Bracers of air tier3
(Standard): Altar of Devastation success with Equipment Deconstruction! Consumed: Supreme Tyrant Green Steel Bracers, Yellow Dopant. Created: Large Twisted Shrapnel, Large Gnawed Bone, Large Length of Infernal Chain, Large Twisted Shrapnel, Large Sulfurous Stone, Large Length of Infernal Chain, Large Sulfurous Stone, Medium Devil Scales, Medium Length of Infernal Chain, Medium Sulfurous Stone, Medium Length of Infernal Chain, Medium Devil Scales, Medium Devil Scales, Small Length of Infernal Chain, Small Sulfurous Stone, Small Twisted Shrapnel, Small Gnawed Bone, Small Gnawed Bone, Small Sulfurous Stone, Small Devil Scales, Shavarath Signet Stone.

Lightning dual tier 3:
(Standard): Altar of Devastation success with Lightning Strike Equipment Deconstruction! Consumed: Supreme Tyrant Green Steel Goggles of Lightning, Yellow Dopant. Created: Large Gnawed Bone, Large Devil Scales, Large Sulfurous Stone, Large Sulfurous Stone, Large Twisted Shrapnel, Large Length of Infernal Chain, Large Devil Scales, Large Glowing Arrowhead, Large Devil Scales, Large Sulfurous Stone, Large Devil Scales, Medium Length of Infernal Chain, Medium Glowing Arrowhead, Medium Sulfurous Stone, Medium Twisted Shrapnel, Medium Sulfurous Stone, Small Devil Scales, Small Twisted Shrapnel, Small Devil Scales, Small Glowing Arrowhead, Small Gnawed Bone, Shavarath Signet Stone.

Min2 Cloak w Essence Ritual:
(Standard): Altar of Devastation success with Distill Essence of Cleansing (Deconstruction)! Consumed: Supreme Tyrant Green Steel Weave Cloak of Mineral, Yellow Dopant. Created: Essence of Cleansing, Large Gnawed Bone, Large Sulfurous Stone, Large Twisted Shrapnel, Large Gnawed Bone, Large Devil Scales, Medium Twisted Shrapnel, Medium Length of Infernal Chain, Medium Devil Scales, Medium Glowing Arrowhead, Medium Twisted Shrapnel, Medium Twisted Shrapnel, Medium Sulfurous Stone, Small Twisted Shrapnel, Small Glowing Arrowhead, Small Sulfurous Stone, Small Length of Infernal Chain, Small Twisted Shrapnel, Small Sulfurous Stone, Small Twisted Shrapnel, Shavarath Signet Stone.