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    Default Monk/Grandmaster of Flowers and Enlightenment

    A few things I seem to notice:

    Enlightenment's Tier 2 and Tier 3 Lists as +1 Passive Ki Gen (I thought Tier 3 was upgraded to +2)

    Enlightenment's does not stack with the Capstone. Intentional?
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    Quote Originally Posted by merentha View Post
    A few things I seem to notice:

    Enlightenment's Tier 2 and Tier 3 Lists as +1 Passive Ki Gen (I thought Tier 3 was upgraded to +2)

    Enlightenment's does not stack with the Capstone. Intentional?
    If it's not stacking, I doubt it's intentional. It was working previously as a stacking Ki generator, and I haven't read anything about that being broken and needing to be nerfed, so I imagine that it's a bug, similar to the FvS Wing's being broken (non recharging).

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    In general it seems like this kind of thing should stack. Im pretty sure that was their intention anyways.

    So it not stacking would likely be a bug Im guessin.
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    Actually looking into this further, it MAY be that the extra +1 Ki regeneration has been moved into the last Innate (Immunity Knockdown, +1 Ki Regen)

    That might explain the change, but still not certain. Will need a Dev to confirm really.

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    If they moved it to the last innate, then it is still not functional. Cordovan boosted me to 25 monk / 5 GM and I regen 2 Ki in water, but I'll redo my destiny points again tomorrow to triple check I'm testing thoroughly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by merentha View Post
    If they moved it to the last innate, then it is still not functional. Cordovan boosted me to 25 monk / 5 GM and I regen 2 Ki in water, but I'll redo my destiny points again tomorrow to triple check I'm testing thoroughly.
    That's peculiar. My monk (Jigglypath) is getting 3 Ki regen in beta right now.

    Capstone, Tier II and III Enlightenment, GoF 6: for a total of +2 Ki regen total extra (making it a total of +3 Regen in non Water Stance).

    Not checked my Water Stance Monk's yet, as I haven't got them to get in during a Dev moment to get xp'd up to 25 to test yet. But will do so at earliest opportunity.

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    From Grandmaster of Flowers:
    Only Tier 3 of Enlightenment and the final auto-granted enhancement should provide passive ki regeneration. If Enlightenment Tier 2 is also claiming to provide +1 passive ki generation, it's a dirty liar and I'll correct it, because I did indeed move it out from there to the auto-granted enhancements.

    In other words:

    Sources of Passive Ki Generation in Grandmaster of Flowers:
    Enlightenment Tier 3: +1 Passive Ki Generation
    Balance in All Things: +1 Passive Ki Generation

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    Thanks for clarifying Feather,

    And I can confirm that yes, the Tier II of Enlightenment does indeed state it is giving a +1 Passive Ki Regen and will need to be edited to reflect current code.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feather_of_Sun View Post
    From Grandmaster of Flowers:
    Only Tier 3 of Enlightenment and the final auto-granted enhancement should provide passive ki regeneration. If Enlightenment Tier 2 is also claiming to provide +1 passive ki generation, it's a dirty liar and I'll correct it, because I did indeed move it out from there to the auto-granted enhancements.

    In other words:

    Sources of Passive Ki Generation in Grandmaster of Flowers:
    Enlightenment Tier 3: +1 Passive Ki Generation
    Balance in All Things: +1 Passive Ki Generation
    Thank you for the response!

    Could we also have the stacking if any clarified?
    As it stands it sounds as if Passive +1 Ki can be gained by: Capstone OR Enlightenment Tier 3 OR Balance in All Things when I go by your wording.

    That would allow Water 3/4 to give a stacking +1 and the best picture would then be +2 Passive Ki if one of 3 sources (from above) AND water stance 3/4

    To further clarify. What I am testing is that Balance in All Things is stacking with the Monk Capstone, so in Water stance I have a +3 Passive Ki regeneration at the moment. If this is the end intent, then I am completely good on it and find it fair and balanced (although I wouldn't have been opposed to a +4, hee hee).
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    Quote Originally Posted by merentha View Post
    Thank you for the response!

    Could we also have the stacking if any clarified?
    As it stands it sounds as if Passive +1 Ki can be gained by: Capstone OR Enlightenment Tier 3 OR Balance in All Things when I go by your wording.

    That would allow Water 3/4 to give a stacking +1 and the best picture would then be +2 Passive Ki if one of 3 sources (from above) AND water stance 3/4

    To further clarify. What I am testing is that Balance in All Things is stacking with the Monk Capstone, so in Water stance I have a +3 Passive Ki regeneration at the moment. If this is the end intent, then I am completely good on it and find it fair and balanced (although I wouldn't have been opposed to a +4, hee hee).
    It all stacks. You could have +1 from Ocean Stance, +1 from the monk enhancement capstone, +1 from Grandmaster of Flowers' Enlightenment, and +1 from Balance in All Things.
    So the maximum achievable passive ki generation rate is +4.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feather_of_Sun View Post
    It all stacks. You could have +1 from Ocean Stance, +1 from the monk enhancement capstone, +1 from Grandmaster of Flowers' Enlightenment, and +1 from Balance in All Things.
    So the maximum achievable passive ki generation rate is +4.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diyon View Post
    Dark monk sneaking.
    Fine, +5 while sneaking on a Ninja of Flowers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feather_of_Sun View Post
    It all stacks. You could have +1 from Ocean Stance, +1 from the monk enhancement capstone, +1 from Grandmaster of Flowers' Enlightenment, and +1 from Balance in All Things.
    So the maximum achievable passive ki generation rate is +4.
    Anyone confirmed yet? I'm apparently short on PP to keep resetting ><

    Oh, but thank you again...and that's pure Awesomesauce!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feather_of_Sun View Post
    Fine, +5 while sneaking on a Ninja of Flowers.
    Do you sneak onto ninja's of flowers often? I didn't know that that was the collective noun either, who knew.
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    Sweet +5 before items, now do they all stack with the items

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feather_of_Sun View Post
    Fine, +5 while sneaking on a Ninja of Flowers.
    For some reason that made me think of the power rangers, especially the pink one....

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