Complete compendium of destiny effects

[threefeetunder]

Thank you for this, I had not seen this before from the devs and I was not privy to the beta testing. So hearing it first hand helps me move on with getting as many of my clerics to level 20 before the end of the month.

This was made pretty clear in Nivarchs post.

This chart represents the currently available destinies. Any character can pick any destiny. The fact that there is no cleric or artificer destiny doesn't mean cleric and artificers can't pick a destiny.

Choosing a destiny
All level 20+ characters can pick a destiny.
Destinies need to be purchased (all the current ones are included with the expansion)

The first time a character choose a destiny, he can pick any destiny from the sphere matching his character class:

• Artificers, Bards, Sorcerers and Wizards can pick any destiny from the arcane sphere (Magister, Draconic incarnation or Fatesinger)
• Clerics, FvS and Paladins can pick any destiny from the divine sphere (Exalted angel or Undying sentinel)
• Fighters, Rogues and Monks can pick any destiny from the martial sphere (Legendary dreadnought, Grandmaster of Flower or Shadowdancer)
• Barbarians, Druids and Rangers can pick any destiny from the primal sphere (Fury of the wild or Shiradi champion)

So does that mean that you'll want to do 6bard/6fighter/6cleric so you can access whichever destiny you want first, then just lesser those other levels away?

You'd be able to pick from arcane, divine and martial Destinies, not primal (but can still just unlock those manually).

[Vargouille]

So does that mean that you'll want to do 6bard/6fighter/6cleric so you can access whichever destiny you want first, then just lesser those other levels away?

There's four spheres, so it's not actually anything you want, but if you hate nature then this breakdown should work for you.

Of course, that only matters for the initial special unlock, so there's really no long term advantage to having extra classes with 6 levels if you aren't actually using that to unlock something. You don't get a permanent unlock of all the Destinies in all the sphere the moment you hit 20. You pick 1 you are eligible for, and after that branch out from there.

[Malshier]

There's four spheres, so it's not actually anything you want, but if you hate nature then this breakdown should work for you.

Of course, that only matters for the initial special unlock, so there's really no long term advantage to having extra classes with 6 levels if you aren't actually using that to unlock something. You don't get a permanent unlock of all the Destinies in all the sphere the moment you hit 20. You pick 1 you are eligible for, and after that branch out from there.

I don't think the destinies that we see today will be the destinies we see in 2 months. And with them changing so rapidly and fundamentally, I'm not sure what ED I might want to use for a character that isn't yet built. Plenty of people build for the character they want to be eventually, not what they are right now. That's how I feel about Epic Destinies.

I guess a better question would have been when are we going to see +6 hearts in the store
I know some Artificers who might lesser out 6 levels to save themselves from grinding out 4 destinies to get where they want to be.

[Havok.cry]

I don't think the destinies that we see today will be the destinies we see in 2 months. And with them changing so rapidly and fundamentally, I'm not sure what ED I might want to use for a character that isn't yet built. Plenty of people build for the character they want to be eventually, not what they are right now. That's how I feel about Epic Destinies.

I guess a better question would have been when are we going to see +6 hearts in the store
I know some Artificers who might lesser out 6 levels to save themselves from grinding out 4 destinies to get where they want to be.

Store items will be available to unlock an adjacent destiny. If three of those cost less than the cost of all the LRs then I would judt reccomend getting them instead.

[Sgt_Hart]

So.. umm.. Why in the blue hell isn't this a sticky yet?

[Mubjon]

This was made pretty clear in Nivarchs post.

Well what he was posting and what has been shown in screen shots did not match up. I would rather get the information from those developing the game than a poster on the forum playing the game. I have seen a lot of false information passed off as truthful and factual by those playing the game.

[Eladiun]

Bumping back to the top because this really should be sticky....

[sirgog]

Bumping because this needs a sticky, I couldn't find it, and people keep posting threads asking for this info.

[BruceTheHoon]

Where did the first post go?

[RadioactivePiranha]

It should be noted that rank 3 in perfection of body in Grandmaster of Flowers prevents automatic failure of a fort save on a 1. Perfection of Mind and Perfection of Soul rank 3 grants similar bonuses for will and reflex saves, respectively.

[nivarch]

Where did the first post go?

That's a good question... Looks like a post disappeared. Weird

It should be noted that rank 3 in perfection of body in Grandmaster of Flowers prevents automatic failure of a fort save on a 1. Perfection of Mind and Perfection of Soul rank 3 grants similar bonuses for will and reflex saves, respectively.

Thanks for the info

[joeuhuh]

cant seem to get my lama working this time around so havnt been able to play i was wondering about the stance for sentinal are there like 4 diferent stances or are the diferent freebies jsut adding on abilities to a basic stance -- cant tellif its one stance with increasing abilities or -- vigor of battle , unbreakable, stand against the tide, and sentinel stances for 4 dif ones

any clarification would help thanks

[joeuhuh]

Draconic perception (required 0 - No prereq) (3 ranks - 1 AP): (Passive) +2 spot and +2 reflex. At rank 3: you gain darkvision


*** is darkvision and are elves and dwarves and drow geting some sort of nighvision as well

[Cordovan]

This thread's pretty awesome, so we're just going to move it into the Guides and Strategies forum (from its former home on the Lamannia forums) per a request. Thanks!

[DemonMage]

*** is darkvision and are elves and dwarves and drow geting some sort of nighvision as well

It's a mechanic that was removed, so it shouldn't be granting that anymore.

[drowrogue]

In the Exalted Angel tree the +1 Wis/Cha cost I believe is 2ap each not 1 as shown.
Great guide, thanks for all the work!

[Aganthor]

Thanks for the time and effort. +1 for you

[Yehediah]

Characters with at least six levels of clerics can start with either Unyielding Sentinel or Exalted Angel as their initial Epic Destiny, just like Favored Souls and Paladins.

You can start with either Divine Destiny as long as you have at least six heroic levels in one of the Divine classes.

Sorry, I don't see how that really helps. So, a cleric gets to play like he's an semi-paladin or a semi-favored soul in epic levels - I want to be an "epic" cleric! It honestly seems like hating clerics (along with a lack of really nice new cleric gear, etc.). Already it's hard to find enough healers in the game and the lack of cleric love just makes me not want to play cleric (and not to heal on my favored soul).