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    Default From clr to fvs with wiz PL using stone

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    I am considering using two lesser hearts (and a week) to change my cleric into a wiz and then TR into a FVS. I never figured I would have the time to TR but the stone makes is appealing.

    I am looking for suggestions on how to build a 34 pt +3 tome all stats FVS caster with a Wiz PL.

    Also, I am currently getting great value in terms of free healing from RS and I am wondering what FVS do instead. Do they use heal scrolls out of combat as well, use the extra SP on healing or how do they handle out of combat healing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikarddo View Post
    ...I am wondering what FVS do instead. Do they use heal scrolls out of combat as well, use the extra SP on healing or how do they handle out of combat healing?
    The Sovereign Host capstone in addition to the DR also gives a 0 SP cure light wounds (meta it to full for free as well) on a very short cooldown. If the party damage is high enough that the capstone isn't cutting it, then I just throw a quickened heal, mass. I generally only use scrolls for endurance healing (ToD pt 3, LoB, eChains, and the like).


    As for the build, with a wiz past life you will probably want to be looking at one of the human evoker builds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikarddo View Post
    Greetings

    I am considering using two lesser hearts (and a week) to change my cleric into a wiz and then TR into a FVS. I never figured I would have the time to TR but the stone makes is appealing.

    I am looking for suggestions on how to build a 34 pt +3 tome all stats FVS caster with a Wiz PL.

    Also, I am currently getting great value in terms of free healing from RS and I am wondering what FVS do instead. Do they use heal scrolls out of combat as well, use the extra SP on healing or how do they handle out of combat healing?
    Hi Mikarddo

    Caster FvS are super fun to play, I'm sure you'll enjoy yourself. For a standard build you would probably want to look at a human with 18 wis, 18 con, 10 cha. For feats you will probably want toughness, wizard past life, maximize, empower, quicken and heighten. This leaves you room for two more, and what you take really depends on your play styles.

    Spell focus evocation and greater spell focus evocation are the typical choices, because evocation is a really flexible spell school (containing blade barrier for damage, soundburst for CC, and implode for instadeath). I like the spell focus necromancy feats as well, because I like to do a lot of single target insta-kills, but they are probably better suited for a player with more past lives (i.e. somebody with a lot of passive spell penetration and evocation DCs). You might also consider one spell pen feat, and one evocation focus feat. It depends how much epic content you run really.

    As for healing, yes, it's easier on a cleric with the bursts and aura. You will have about 800 more spell points on a favoured soul though, which helps make up for the loss of radiant servant. As for out of combat healing, you know, I've never really thought about it. I guess that's because the way the folks I play with play we're running or in combat 99% of the time :P I generally use scrolls for single target healing in raids, but I do that on my clerics as well.

    I personally don't like the free cure light wounds capstone, because it has a very low caster level cap. It heals about twice as much as drinking a cure serious wounds potion, and will be barely noticeable unless the person you are healing has outstanding healing amp. It has a few places where it is handy, yes, but I prefer the searing light capstone which can be spammed constantly. Both are fine choices though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chette View Post
    Hi Mikarddo
    I personally don't like the free cure light wounds capstone, because it has a very low caster level cap. It heals about twice as much as drinking a cure serious wounds potion, and will be barely noticeable unless the person you are healing has outstanding healing amp. It has a few places where it is handy, yes, but I prefer the searing light capstone which can be spammed constantly. Both are fine choices though.
    I agree that it depends on play style. Last life I was running without empowered healing, so it was hitting for ~60, with crits around 180 (before healing amp). Alternating it between spells/scrolls really did help extend my SP pool. However free DPS is never a bad thing, and together with your archon makes for lots of free laser beams!

    As a note on feat choices, the spell pen feats are not bad choices either. Blade Barrier and Divine Punishment don't have a spell pen check, but Implosion, Destruction, and neg level spells do (and you can always neg level enemies if your DCs aren't up to the task).
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    Quote Originally Posted by RabidApathy View Post
    I agree that it depends on play style. Last life I was running without empowered healing, so it was hitting for ~60, with crits around 180 (before healing amp). Alternating it between spells/scrolls really did help extend my SP pool. However free DPS is never a bad thing, and together with your archon makes for lots of free laser beams!

    As a note on feat choices, the spell pen feats are not bad choices either. Blade Barrier and Divine Punishment don't have a spell pen check, but Implosion, Destruction, and neg level spells do (and you can always neg level enemies if your DCs aren't up to the task).
    Yes, definitely, spell pen is also really nice if you want to try and spam debuffs like bestow curse on bosses, or blind enemies with holy aura. These spells also have DCs though.
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    If you're currently a pure 20 Cleric before the +5 hearts then you will be a Cleric after two +5 hearts, since Cleric is ahead of Wizard in alphabetical order.

    Just a warning in advance.
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    Thanks for the warning. I am only level 18 though so I just have to take the last level as a wiz and it should work out.

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    Indeed. If you take even one level as a Wizard you'd be 11 Wizard/9 Cleric, and Wizard is your majority there and thus your PL.
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