Bards in PvP...

[Such755]

I just randomly came by, you know I don't comment here but I have some example:

As always, I like to mess around in the brawling area when I'm waiting for my parties to fill up.
One time it was just me and a bard. The bard constantly kept using song of capering and fascinate on me, not even trying to kill me. He did it for about good 40 minues regardless to how many times I asked him to stop.
I have no idea how to report such behavior, I only know how to report something directly from the chat...

I tried logging out, you can't.
I tried killing myself, you can't.
I exit the game, logged back in, the guy was still there dancing me.

I suggested before a system where you could "ignore" other player's action in the pit, like for you and him you are in the street rather than in the pit, you can't harm him in any way and vice versa. Obviously it didn't take and will never too.
I think this kind of griefing is the worst, if some level 20 constantly kills a level 1 then the level 1 can leave and come back another time. If a bard comes and dances you around, you're helpless.
I come into the pit to pass my time around and have a good time, test some things and fight people hoping they will enjoy it too (same level rage at least)

If you're going to say: "It's PvP, what did you expect?" Well sorry, but I expected to have good time and not being griefed. Also, people of high level killing people of low level, that's almost as lame as a bard abusing everyone around.
If you're going to say: "Then log on another character"- You seriously want me to log on another character (Assuming I have one) because some jacka@@ is abusing the game mechanics on me?

[Yokido]

Best thing to do against a bard who's blatantly abusing their power to harrass you is to engage them in dialogue, get them to admit to their actions inadvertently, that way the Mod who sees the report has more to go off of rather than sifting through pages and pages of combat reports.. You'd be surprised, most of them don't know how to stop typing for their own good.

I, personally, love playing my 14/6/6 virt/radiant/paladin in pvp/pve.. I've found that all you need to compete with a bard is a high damaging guard, house P shield, and an Ioun stone, boom you've just filtered out 9/10ths of all bards from being a challenge.

[mansrea26]

I've been owned by a bard in PVP, I'm not ashamed to admit it. It's happend with my arcanes and it's happened with my melees. There are ways to circumvent the never ending dancing as previously mentioned. Most bards I have encountered if addressed will stop causing grief if you simply ask. Other than that, if I am not having fun then I won't stay around or I will find a different bar to play in. I am not going to say what should and shouldn't be allowed. What's the point of PvP if you can't highlight your better qualities. Take away a bards song, then you take away a fighters great sword, etc... It's a game and there are going to be trolls you can either let them make the game less enjoyable or you can find away around the irritation and not let it effect you at all. The control is yours regardless, no sense in stripping away peoples abilities.

[Hendrik]

ESC > Help > Report* > Fill in details.



* Can't remember exact name of the button.

[goodspeed]

I just randomly came by, you know I don't comment here but I have some example:

As always, I like to mess around in the brawling area when I'm waiting for my parties to fill up.
One time it was just me and a bard. The bard constantly kept using song of capering and fascinate on me, not even trying to kill me. He did it for about good 40 minues regardless to how many times I asked him to stop.
I have no idea how to report such behavior, I only know how to report something directly from the chat...

I tried logging out, you can't.
I tried killing myself, you can't.
I exit the game, logged back in, the guy was still there dancing me.

I suggested before a system where you could "ignore" other player's action in the pit, like for you and him you are in the street rather than in the pit, you can't harm him in any way and vice versa. Obviously it didn't take and will never too.
I think this kind of griefing is the worst, if some level 20 constantly kills a level 1 then the level 1 can leave and come back another time. If a bard comes and dances you around, you're helpless.
I come into the pit to pass my time around and have a good time, test some things and fight people hoping they will enjoy it too (same level rage at least)

If you're going to say: "It's PvP, what did you expect?" Well sorry, but I expected to have good time and not being griefed. Also, people of high level killing people of low level, that's almost as lame as a bard abusing everyone around.
If you're going to say: "Then log on another character"- You seriously want me to log on another character (Assuming I have one) because some jacka@@ is abusing the game mechanics on me?

bwahahaha pawnage on the highest scale

[Vellrad]

Lol, silly OP, that little pvp you find in game is nothing.
The true pvp of DDO is held on theese forums.
Good you're finally here, you can join the REAL pvp fun!

[katz]

a while back, i participated in a group PvP in the challenge arenas... and there were only 2 people i didn't kill at least once... a WF sorc, and a rogue. i complained about being in the wrong destiny, which i was. the rogue LOLed and promised a rematch.

fast forward several months... the rogue has TRed and leveled back to 22. we head to the private challenge arena for the rematch. i open with Siren's Song... run over and start beating on him. few seconds later... Chord of Reprisals... dead rogue. he says "that was cheap" i agree, but amend it with "if i really wanted to be cheap, i'd do this" and sang a song of capering. i didn't take advantage of my unfair edge, tho, and waited for him to come out swinging.


he paralyzed me with his eMidnight's Greetings... i paralyzed him back with my epic elemental khopesh of water. then the freezing ice proced on him. i bobbed, i weaved, i ran... and with 2 levels of barb and barb sprint boost, i run very fast. he complained that i was relying on procs and running around to win. so i stopped running and broke out my eAGA. the clock ticked down with him running, heal scroll in hand, with me hot on his tail, swinging.


i am a bard. i am a virt, i used to be a warchanter, but i specced out of it. and i do more damage in a single cleave than the above quoted "500 damage from a greater shout" and i don't need to blow my limited spell bar to do it. i can stop everything in the room, and i don't need to blow my spell bar on that either... but its more fun to cleave cleave cleave then count the dead bodies around me.


i am a bard, and i am awesome.

[firezim]

Bard songs don't really bother me in pvp.


I have been perma danced and perma CC from other calsses but when you jump down you cant complain when you don't have to pvp.

[ThePrincipal]

Well the Devs must hate Bards as much as you all because I hopped in to the tavern with my bard and fascinate now bounces back at the bard. I tried it several times to be sure, and yup fascinate now affects opponents and singer the same.

Good job cry babies.

[96th_Malice]

Well the Devs must hate Bards as much as you all because I hopped in to the tavern with my bard and fascinate now bounces back at the bard. I tried it several times to be sure, and yup fascinate now affects opponents and singer the same.

Good job cry babies.

Song of capering , sirens song .... All work just as well

[Powskier]

why should Bards be excluded from the fun?(songs bounce back anyway in there)....Perform is their highest skill....My bard uses breath whepon in PVP after makin u dance...2k hit pts dam

[Powskier]

a while back, i participated in a group PvP in the challenge arenas... and there were only 2 people i didn't kill at least once... a WF sorc, and a rogue. i complained about being in the wrong destiny, which i was. the rogue LOLed and promised a rematch.

fast forward several months... the rogue has TRed and leveled back to 22. we head to the private challenge arena for the rematch. i open with Siren's Song... run over and start beating on him. few seconds later... Chord of Reprisals... dead rogue. he says "that was cheap" i agree, but amend it with "if i really wanted to be cheap, i'd do this" and sang a song of capering. i didn't take advantage of my unfair edge, tho, and waited for him to come out swinging.


he paralyzed me with his eMidnight's Greetings... i paralyzed him back with my epic elemental khopesh of water. then the freezing ice proced on him. i bobbed, i weaved, i ran... and with 2 levels of barb and barb sprint boost, i run very fast. he complained that i was relying on procs and running around to win. so i stopped running and broke out my eAGA. the clock ticked down with him running, heal scroll in hand, with me hot on his tail, swinging.


i am a bard. i am a virt, i used to be a warchanter, but i specced out of it. and i do more damage in a single cleave than the above quoted "500 damage from a greater shout" and i don't need to blow my limited spell bar to do it. i can stop everything in the room, and i don't need to blow my spell bar on that either... but its more fun to cleave cleave cleave then count the dead bodies around me.


i am a bard, and i am awesome.

Bards are awsome! I just maxed my dread destiny....CLEAVE,CLEAVE,CLEAVE..yes indeed

[Hendrik]

I have a bard and they aren't really meant for pvp, I usually ledge hop with sirens song and hope it hits. Its kinda cheap but easily avoidable with some ok gear. Bards aren't much of a threat in pvp

With a 130+ DC to my Songs, I am a very big threat.

You have a 110 Saving Throw?

[Hilltrot]

I think /death should always work. I demand that Turbine give me my right to die!