DC is about right?

[Wizking]

So I just hit level 17 on my wizard last night (first life and first arcane this high)

What is considered the DC to have at level 17?
currently I have 32 and it seems good but I know 45 + is what is needed in epics

[erikbozelie]

So I just hit level 17 on my wizard last night (first life and first arcane this high)

What is considered the DC to have at level 17?
currently I have 32 and it seems good but I know 45 + is what is needed in epics

DC 39~42 is about right on most common build wizards. its without the +4 tomes and the past lives, and the epic +3 dc gear.

some more information might be nice for us to help you.

do you have a +2 dc item.
archmage or pale master?
do you have a 2 int tome?
or perhaps heighten?
did you check your dc of your level 9 spells?

[Such755]

Had 41 necro 40 enchant DC, never had a single problem in any epics (I never did epic wiz king though, but I assume I'd be fine there as well). Solo CC'ed eChrono, eDA... People say 42-43 is good, but I say it's an overkill.

[Wizking]

DC 39~42 is about right on most common build wizards. its without the +4 tomes and the past lives, and the epic +3 dc gear.

some more information might be nice for us to help you.

do you have a +2 dc item.
archmage or pale master?
do you have a 2 int tome?
or perhaps heighten?
did you check your dc of your level 9 spells?

I do not have a +2 dc item yet
I am palemaster
Do have a +2 int tome
Have heighten
That was the level 9 spells I am sorry, I was excited that I got wail of the banshee

I know that next level I will recieve 2 more from the lich form
and 1 more at level 20 as my int is odd at the moment

[erikbozelie]

I do not have a +2 dc item yet
I am palemaster
Do have a +2 int tome
Have heighten
That was the level 9 spells I am sorry, I was excited that I got wail of the banshee

I know that next level I will recieve 2 more from the lich form
and 1 more at level 20 as my int is odd at the moment

that makes it 37.

then there is +3 exceptional int, +7 enhancement equipment to grind. for another +2.
wizard past life +1
completionist +1
yugo potions (+2 int) +1

i bet theres a full list on the forum. most wizards i know are around 40.

[Enoach]

First just to clarify you don't need 45+ DC to do epics (doesn't hurt, but not needed)

Each Epic quest has varying levels of useful DCs and useful schools. Example: Quests in the Red Fens and House P have mechanics where Web (conjuration) is more effective then Hold. While other quests Enchantments like Dancing Ball are more effective. And still others where Necromancy is more effective.

A 32 at 17 is not bad. Now you need to concentrate on the other 8+ you will need to get your DC's into the 40s

Examples:

• What is your current ending Intelligence going to be? Figure in Wiz Capstone if pure which is +2 Intelligence. Every 2 Int = 1 DC
• PM vs AM bonuses - Each have there own additional bonus at Tier 3.
• Access to Greater School Focus Items
• Spell Focus Feats
• Gear Sets (Like what is available in ToD)

Next is to review what gear you will need to improve that - some of this won't be available until you have done Raids, or even other epics. Currently a +7 Int item is only available in Epic Gear.

Than there are temporary enhancements such as Yugoloth Potions and Ship Buff as well as House D Enhancement Potions (burst increases of +1 to +3 for a stat).

[stille_nacht]

40 is fine in most epics, 42 is very good.

personally i run around with 45, but i'm a freak :P, and honestly, 43-45 won't show a difference in most quests, 42 seems to be the threshold for noticeable improvement of cc