Grubbly's Tanking Build (18Monk/2Fighter)

[EliahuTheMighty]

Posting for referencing when discussing the build.
I'm open to thoughts and suggestions. Keep the following in mind before commenting:
Grubbly doesn't really have the gear for AC, and I'm not interested in grinding it out until we see what comes out of the expansion. Therefore, AC is dumped.
He will be using THF (eAntique) for easy tanking, but will switch to S&B if more threat/HP/DR is needed.
This means being in SD2 most often, and switching to SD3 for the heavy duty tanking.
2 Monk levels are for 40 hp. unless an evasion-friendly armor comes out which can compare to the epic Cavalry plate, he's not going to be using his evasion in most situations.
Primarily an HP/Threat/Heal-amp tank, but I'm trying to make nice with the Intim because it's more reliable.

Past lives are 2 Fighter, 2 Pally, 1 Barb.

Character Generated Using: DDO Character Generator
Direct Link to Build: http://www.ddochargen.com/home.aspx?build=20738

Fighter 18 / Monk 2
Male Half-Elf - Lawful Good
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PAST LIVES SELECTED:
Barbarian (1), Fighter (2), Paladin (2)
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LEVEL 1
Race Selected: Male Half-Elf
Alignment Selected: Lawful Good
Class Selected: Monk (Monk 1)
Abilities Raised: STR: 16, CON: 16, INT: 12, WIS: 14, CHA: 14
Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +4 (4), Concentration +4 (4), 
Intimidate +2 (2), Jump +3 (3), Spot +4 (4), Tumble +1 (1)
Feats Selected: Toughness, Half-Elf Dilettante (Cleric), 
Toughness
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LEVEL 2:
Class Selected: Fighter (Fighter 1 / Monk 1)
Skills Ranks Raised: Intimidate +3 (5)
Feats Selected: Weapon Focus (Slashing)
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LEVEL 3:
Class Selected: Fighter (Fighter 2 / Monk 1)
Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +1 (5), Intimidate +1 (6)
Feats Selected: Past Life (Berserkers Fury), Power Attack
Tomes Applied: STR: +1, DEX: +1, CON: +1, INT: +1, 
WIS: +1, CHA: +1
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LEVEL 4:
Class Selected: Fighter (Fighter 3 / Monk 1)
Abilities Raised: STR: 18
Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +1 (6), Intimidate +1 (7)
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LEVEL 5:
Class Selected: Fighter (Fighter 4 / Monk 1)
Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +1 (7), Intimidate +1 (8)
Feats Selected: Weapon Specialization (Slashing)
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LEVEL 6:
Class Selected: Fighter (Fighter 5 / Monk 1)
Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +1 (8), Intimidate +1 (9)
Feats Selected: Toughness
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LEVEL 7:
Class Selected: Fighter (Fighter 6 / Monk 1)
Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +1 (9), Intimidate +1 (10)
Feats Selected: Improved Sunder
Tomes Applied: STR: +2, DEX: +2, CON: +2, INT: +2, 
WIS: +2, CHA: +2
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LEVEL 8:
Class Selected: Monk (Fighter 6 / Monk 2)
Abilities Raised: STR: 20
Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +2 (11), Spot +4 (8)
Feats Selected: Toughness
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LEVEL 9:
Class Selected: Fighter (Fighter 7 / Monk 2)
Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +1 (12), Intimidate +2 (12)
Feats Selected: Toughness
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LEVEL 10:
Class Selected: Fighter (Fighter 8 / Monk 2)
Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +1 (13), Intimidate +1 (13), 
Jump +1 (4)
Feats Selected: Improved Critical (Slashing)
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LEVEL 11:
Class Selected: Fighter (Fighter 9 / Monk 2)
Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +1 (14), Intimidate +1 (14), 
Spot +0.5 (8.5)
Tomes Applied: STR: +3, DEX: +3, CON: +3, INT: +3, 
WIS: +3, CHA: +3
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LEVEL 12:
Class Selected: Fighter (Fighter 10 / Monk 2)
Abilities Raised: STR: 22
Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +1 (15), Intimidate +1 (15), 
Jump +1 (5)
Feats Selected: Toughness, Greater Weapon Focus (Slashing)
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LEVEL 13:
Class Selected: Fighter (Fighter 11 / Monk 2)
Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +1 (16), Intimidate +1 (16), 
Spot +0.5 (9)
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LEVEL 14:
Class Selected: Fighter (Fighter 12 / Monk 2)
Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +1 (17), Intimidate +1 (17), 
Spot +0.5 (9.5)
Feats Selected: Greater Weapon Specialization (Slashing)
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LEVEL 15:
Class Selected: Fighter (Fighter 13 / Monk 2)
Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +1 (18), Intimidate +1 (18), 
Spot +0.5 (10)
Feats Selected: Toughness
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LEVEL 16:
Class Selected: Fighter (Fighter 14 / Monk 2)
Abilities Raised: STR: 23
Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +1 (19), Intimidate +1 (19), 
Spot +0.5 (10.5)
Feats Selected: Shield Mastery
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LEVEL 17:
Class Selected: Fighter (Fighter 15 / Monk 2)
Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +1 (20), Intimidate +1 (20), 
Spot +0.5 (11)
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LEVEL 18:
Class Selected: Fighter (Fighter 16 / Monk 2)
Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +1 (21), Intimidate +1 (21), 
Spot +0.5 (11.5)
Feats Selected: Toughness, Cleave
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LEVEL 19:
Class Selected: Fighter (Fighter 17 / Monk 2)
Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +1 (22), Intimidate +1 (22), 
Spot +0.5 (12)
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LEVEL 20:
Class Selected: Fighter (Fighter 18 / Monk 2)
Abilities Raised: STR: 24
Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +1 (23), Intimidate +1 (23), 
Jump +1 (6)
Feats Selected: Improved Shield Mastery
Equipment Mods Changed To: HP: 125, STR: 9, CON: 8, CHA: 6
Favor Bonus Granted: Coin Lord Finishing School (400 Coin Lord Favor)
Favor Bonus Granted: Draconic Vitality (15 Agents of Argonnessen Favor)
Enhancements Selected: Fighter Toughness I, 
Improved Intimidate I, Human Improved Recovery I, Fighter Haste Boost I, 
Fighter Critical Accuracy I, Fighter Armor Class Boost I, 
Racial Toughness I, Fighter Strength I, Fighter Toughness II, 
Way of the Tenacious Badger I, Improved Intimidate II, 
Fighter Haste Boost II, Improved Cleric Dilettante I, 
Human Improved Recovery II, Racial Toughness II, Fighter Toughness III, 
Fighter Stalwart Defender I, Fighter Haste Boost III, 
Fighter Item Defense I, Fighter Armor Class Boost II, 
Fighter Item Defense II, Improved Cleric Dilettante II, 
Fighter Weapon Specialization I, Fighter Armor Class Boost III, 
Human Adaptability Strength I, Fighter Stalwart Defender II, 
Fighter Haste Boost IV, Fighter Strength II, Improved Cleric Dilettante III, 
Fighter Weapon Specialization II, Fighter Extra Action Boost I, 
Fighter Extra Action Boost II, Human Versatility I, 
Improved Intimidate III, Fighter Stalwart Defender III, 
Fighter Strategy (Sunder) I, Improved Intimidate IV, 
Human Greater Adaptability Charisma I, Human Versatility II, 
Improved Balance I
Stats at End of Level 20:
HP:787 SP:0 AC:17 FORT:22 REFL:9 WILL:12 BAB:+19/+19/+24/+29
STR:36(+13) DEX:11(0) CON:27(+8) INT:15(+2) WIS:17(+3) CHA:24(+7)
Balance:24, Bluff:7, Concentration:12, Diplomacy:9, 
Disable Device: n/a, Haggle:7, Heal:3, Hide:0, Intimidate:45, 
Jump:19, Listen:4, Move Silently:0, Open Lock: n/a, 
Perform: n/a, Repair:2, Search:3, Spot:16, Swim:13, 
Tumble:1, UMD: n/a

Thoughts on alterable bits:

Take cleave earlier while leveling.
Swap Cleave for Khopesh Prof at lvl 20.
Drop a toughness for Skill Focus: Intim.
Enhancements: obviously flexible.
Decided to spend 4 ap for 1 CHA (+1 intim) instead of Ftr Toughness 4 because he'll already hit over 950 hp in SD3.
Will eventually slot +1 exceptional con for +20 hp.
Cleric Dilletante is mostly for leveling, or being able to raise. Alternatively, Pally dille for bonus to saves (Up to +5 to saves), or Monk dille for more heal amp.
Animal Path: Badger taken for +1 intim, could take Tortoise instead for +5 hp.

-------Stats-------
STR: 16 Base +3 Tome +5 Leveling +6 Item +3 Exceptional +3 Enhancements +2 Ship Buffs +2 Yugo = 40 Standing. +6 SD3 = 46, without Madstone/Rage.
DEX: 8 Base +3 Tome +2 Ship Buffs +6 Item = 19.
CON: 16 Base +3 Tome +6 Item +2 Exceptional +2 Ship Buffs +2 Yugo = 31 Standing. +6 SD3 = 37, without Madstone/Rage.
INT: 12 Base +3 Tome +2 Ship Buffs = 17.
WIS: 14 Base +3 Tome +3 Exceptional +2 Ship Buffs = 22.
CHA: 14 Base +3 Tome + +6 Item +1 Enhancements +2 Ship Buffs = 26 Standing.

-------Feats-------
Level 1: Helf (Clr), Toughness, Toughness
Level 2: Weapon Focus: Slash
Level 3: PL: Barb, Power Attack
Level 4: N/A
Level 5: Weapon Specialization: Slash
Level 6: Toughness
Level 7: Cleave
Level 8: Toughness
Level 9: Quick Draw
Level 10: Improved Crit: Slash
Level 11: N/A
Level 12: Toughness, Greater Weapon Focus: Slash
Level 13: N/A
Level 14: Greater Weapon Specialization: Slash
Level 15: Toughness
Level 16: Improved Sunder
Level 17: N/A
Level 18: Skill Focus: Intimidate, Shield Mastery
Level 19: N/A
Level 20: Improved Shield Mastery


-------Gear--------
(Note: This is what he's acquired from his first life. I'm mostly looking at making it work with what he has. His first life, some gear choices were made to allow for SF pot useage)


Head: Minos (Toughness, Heavy Fort)
Neck: GS Hp item (Haste guard, +6 Balance)
Trinket: Epic Gem of Many Facets (+4 atk, +20% threat, +4 dmg. Ideally Epic Brawns for swapout intim)
Cloak: Wretched Twilight (Ghostly, SA +4. Swap-able. Ideally Epic Envenomed Cloak).
Belt: Cannith Crafted Belt (LGA: +20 hp. Con +6, other bonus, probably +13 Balance)
Ring1: Kilau's Band (+6 Dex, Exceptional Wis +1, Exceptional Str +2)
Gloves: Epic Gloves of the Claw (+6 Str, 30% Heal amp, +4 dmg, +20% threat)
Boots: Boots of Anchoring/Rock Boots (For trash)/Boots of Propulsion (Jump +15, FF)
Ring2: Warchanter's Band (CHA +6, Exceptional Str +1, Exceptional Con +2)
Bracers: Levik's Bracers (20% heal amp, Str +6)
Armor: Epic Cavalry Plate (Demonic Shield, DR 5/Chaotic, Resist Save +5, SFL, could slot with +2 Good Luck)
Goggles: Epic Raven's Sight (True Seeing, Exceptional Wis +2, +4 To-hit)

Weapons would be swaps between eAntique, +5 HB metal of Greater Bane Khopesh or Greatsword/Greataxe.
He has a MGA Mithril Tower Shield to slot +3 intim. (Since ignoring AC, perhaps swap for any LGA tower shield?)

-------Intimidate Breakdown-------
23 Ranks
4 Improved Intim Enhancements
1 Animal Path: Badger
6 Stalward Defender 3
8 Charisma Modifier
13 Cannith Crafted +13 Item (cloak?)
5 eGloves of the Claw
2 PL: Barb
3 MGA Tower Shield
4 Greater Heroism
3 Skill focus: Intim
2 Coin Lord Finishing School
1 Spider Cult Mask
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75

-------Heal-Amp breakdown-------
100% * 1.3 (Claw gloves) * 1.2 (Human) * 1.2 (Levik's) * 1.1 (2x pally PL)= 205.92% without ship buff.
205.92% * 1.1 (ship buff) = 226.512%.
If monk dille: 226.512 * 1.2 = 271.814% Max.


-------HP breakdown-------
16 2 Monk levels
216 18 Fighter levels
20 Heroic Durability
132 Toughness Feat x6
160 Con Mod +8
10 PL: Barb (Passive)
20 PL: Barb (Active)
45 GS HP necklace
40 Superior False Life
20 Toughness (Minos)
40 Yugo Pot
30 Fighter Toughness 3
20 Racial Toughness 2
20 LGA Belt
20 Ship buff
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809 Hp With Ship buffs, unstanced, unraged.

***********Needs to be redone from feat changes**********************
40 +4 Con (SD2)
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849
849 * 1.15 (SD2) = 976 HP in SD2 stance.


809
60 +6 Con (SD3)
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869 * 1.2 (SD3) = 1042 HP in SD3 stance.


Seems a little higher than it should, please correct any math errors.
If this is correct, I would definitely drop at least 1 Toughness for Skill Focus: Intim. Maybe two or three to compensate for a lack of eBrawns Spirits.

-------Enhancements-------
Fighter Armor Class Boost I
Fighter Armor Class Boost II
Fighter Armor Class Boost III
Fighter Critical Accuracy I
Fighter Extra Action Boost I
Fighter Extra Action Boost II
Fighter Haste Boost I
Fighter Haste Boost II
Fighter Haste Boost III
Fighter Haste Boost IV
Fighter Item Defense I
Fighter Item Defense II
Fighter Stalwart Defender I
Fighter Stalwart Defender II
Fighter Stalwart Defender III
Fighter Strategy (Sunder) I
Fighter Strength I
Fighter Strength II
Fighter Toughness I
Fighter Toughness II
Fighter Toughness III
Fighter Weapon Specialization I
Fighter Weapon Specialization II
Human Adaptability Strength I
Human Greater Adaptability Charisma I
Human Improved Recovery I
Human Improved Recovery II
Human Versatility I
Human Versatility II
Improved Balance I
Improved Cleric Dilettante I
Improved Cleric Dilettante II
Improved Cleric Dilettante III
Improved Intimidate I
Improved Intimidate II
Improved Intimidate III
Improved Intimidate IV
Racial Toughness I
Racial Toughness II
Way of the Tenacious Badger I

Some things (*cough* Item defense *cough*) taken as prereqs obviously.


I will edit this as necessary.
Build #20738

[Blank_Zero]

If you plan on using Intimidate for Tanking ever, get a eBrawn's. +20 Intim is no joke.

[AtomicMew]

You can start with 10 wisdom and still take cleric dill. Unless the wisdom is for something else.

Also, what about an enhancement breakdown?

[EliahuTheMighty]

You can start with 10 wisdom and still take cleric dill. Unless the wisdom is for something else.

No, I can't, for two reasons. First, because I'm already lvl 8. Too late for changes now! Second, you can only swap out a feat that you could have taken at that level. Since at creation, I would not be qualified for the Cleric Dille, I wouldn't be able to swap out for it once the tome kicks in, because Fred judges you based on how you were when you took that feat.

Also, what about an enhancement breakdown?

Why does nobody read the Builder Import?!

I've added in the list to the original post. Part of the reason that I didn't include it at first is because as I said, enhancements are flexible. For instance, if I did a gear swap to allow for 3-piece eAbishai, I would drop fighter STR 2. If I slotted exceptional CHA, I would drop the racial. What parts in particular are you wondering about?

[AtomicMew]

No, I can't, for two reasons. First, because I'm already lvl 8. Too late for changes now! Second, you can only swap out a feat that you could have taken at that level. Since at creation, I would not be qualified for the Cleric Dille, I wouldn't be able to swap out for it once the tome kicks in, because Fred judges you based on how you were when you took that feat.

You can, last time I tried. Take somethign without a WIS requirement, like barb dill or rogue dill, then when your tome kicks in swap to cleric dill.

[EliahuTheMighty]

You can, last time I tried. Take somethign without a WIS requirement, like barb dill or rogue dill, then when your tome kicks in swap to cleric dill.

Interesting. I'll keep that in mind, thanks. Either way, won't matter for this life. Though I've got to say, I enjoy being able to pump out double the healing of a cure serious pot, and then more at lvl 7 with cure crit wands. It fits my playstyle well, and I'm more self sufficient than those who simply keep chugging cure mod pots.

[EliahuTheMighty]

Just noticed a MAJOR typo that no one's pointed out yet: In the title, I listed the build as 18 monk and 2 fighter, rather than the correct 18 fighter and 2 monk.

[HalfORCastrator]

Just noticed a MAJOR typo that no one's pointed out yet: In the title, I listed the build as 18 monk and 2 fighter, rather than the correct 18 fighter and 2 monk.

Figured you knew, so didn't mention it.

So many toughnesses seems a waste(and you still have 2 left over. Lol).

Try quickdraw for wands/scrolls/destruction wpn/cursespewing wpn swaps. If it turns out unneeded at 20 game, there's always the free feat swap.

[EliahuTheMighty]

Just LR'd today. New feat list:

Level 1: Helf (Clr), Toughness, Toughness
Level 2: Weapon Focus: Slash
Level 3: PL: Barb, Power Attack
Level 4: N/A
Level 5: THF
Level 6: Improved Shield Bash
Level 7: Cleave
Level 8: Toughness
Level 9: Exotic: DA
Level 10: Improved Crit: Slash
Level 11: N/A
Level 12: Combat Expertise, ITHF
Level 13: N/A
Level 14: GTHF
Level 15: Great Cleave (Took toughness, swap out for Skill Focus: Intim)
Level 16: Improved Sunder
Level 17: N/A
Level 18: Skill Focus: Intimidate (Took Great cleave), Shield Mastery
Level 19: N/A
Level 20: Improved Shield Mastery

Took the THF line because in most instances, the glancing blows are giving more total dmg than the +4 dmg from the specialization feats. All I really lose out on is the +1 to-hit from greater weapon focus feat. Also dropped 1 toughness for great cleave, balanced by taking epic toughness at 21 (put two lvling points into Con this time). Usually not swapping weapons, especially while tanking, so dropped quickdraw (doesn't effect scroll-swaps for self healing unfortunately) for Dwarven Axe proficiency, and dropped 2 toughnesses for Combat Expertise and Improved Shield Bash.