A time out for the troops :)

[silence383]

It is Memorial Day. Just want to say THANK YOU to all the troops at home , overseas and vets for all that you do or have done for us. Without you we wouldn't even have the freedom to ponder, discuss and have the things we have. All active duty overseas I wish you a safe return ..come home safe. Wishing you and your families the best this day. This includes all our allies and thier families as well...God bless you all.

Edit: Feel free to leave your thank you messages to the men and women! Let them see and read how important they are to us !!

[...v...]

This is ddo related how?

We must remember that in time of war what is said on the enemy’s side of the front is always propaganda, and what is said on our side of the front is truth and righteousness, the cause of humanity and a crusade for peace.

— Walter Lippmann

Propaganda can serve to rally people behind a cause, but often at the cost of exaggerating, misrepresenting, or even lying about the issues in order to gain that support.

While the issue of propaganda often is discussed in the context of militarism, war and war-mongering, it is around us in all aspects of life.

As the various examples below will show, common tactics in propaganda often used by either side include:
•Using selective stories that come over as wide-covering and objective.
•Partial facts, or historical context
•Reinforcing reasons and motivations to act due to threats on the security of the individual.
•Narrow sources of “experts” to provide insights in to the situation. (For example, the mainstream media typically interview retired military personnel for many conflict-related issues, or treat official government sources as fact, rather than just one perspective that needs to be verified and researched).
•Demonizing the “enemy” who does not fit the picture of what is “right”.
•Using a narrow range of discourse, whereby judgments are often made while the boundary of discourse itself, or the framework within which the opinions are formed, are often not discussed. The narrow focus then helps to serve the interests of the propagandists.

Some of the following sections look into how propaganda is used in various ways, expanding on the above list of tactics and devices.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDkhzHQO7jY

[silence383]

Always a quote ..always someone who has to be a jerk... this was to show support for the folks that give everything so we can have this discussion.

[...v...]

Always a quote ..always someone who has to be a jerk... this was to show support for the folks that give everything so we can have this discussion.

How did they give everything when they volunteered? How is it different from a construction worker, they build things and make our lives better from the roads we drive on to the school our kids go to. The truth is with the advent of the Internet we are more informed of political and World events. I think you need to tune in.


PS: where were they when the patriot act was passed?

[Whesper]

Always a quote ..always someone who has to be a jerk... this was to show support for the folks that give everything so we can have this discussion.

Having a different opinion is now considered to be a jerkish move? So you praise the ones that hypothetically protect your freedom of speech and then refuse it to someone else? You might want to look up what the definition of a 'jerk' is.

And while I too support people that died for something they thought was worth dying for... I don't quite believe most of the recent wars were defending anything else, but corporate interests.

[ainmosni]

Having a different opinion is now considered to be a jerkish move? So you praise the ones that hypothetically protect your freedom of speech and then refuse it to someone else? You might want to look up what the definition of a 'jerk' is.

And while I too support people that died for something they thought was worth dying for... I don't quite believe most of the recent wars were defending anything else, but corporate interests.

i was talking to my boss at work the other day, he is an iraq war veteran, and he said he talked to several of the men he was guarding who spoke good english, and they were pretty likeable. 'i like you, but if i saw you out there id have to kill you' was the sentiment. he said he had a lot of respect for those guys, because in their eyes, they are homegrown heros protecting their country against invaders. im not going to post my own opinion on politics, but to hear that from an actual war veteran surprised me, and not in a bad way.

[silence383]

LOL always one of you..who can speak your mind cause you don't have to do what they do..so you can. This will not turn into a political thread. I was wishing them a good day. Nothing more so if you do not have a positive message..please start your own thread.

I will not argue with someone who is trolling.

[...v...]

LOL always one of you..who can speak your mind cause you don't have to do what they do..so you can. This will not turn into a political thread. I was wishing them a good day. Nothing more so if you do not have a positive message..please start your own thread.

Isn't that real freedom?

[sheepface]

Isn't that real freedom?

You would think a troll would recognize another troll when they see one

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=375022

[Ugumagre]

Well, at least Silence383 doesn´t write long emotional paragraphs with big photographs like some other well known forumite, and at least Silence383 does it at Memorial Day and not 3 days before.
Anyway, Silence, please at least off-topic. There are a lot of countries in the world and all have different memorial days.

[Algreg]

having your own opinion is fine and dandy, that does not mean you absolutely have to derail a person´s thread who is just expressing his honest sentiment.

[Ivan_Milic]

having your own opinion is fine and dandy, that does not mean you absolutely have to derail a person´s thread who is just expressing his honest sentiment.

And that person is posting in general discussion about something that has nothing to do with ddo.
Thanking people for invading other peoples country?

[Algreg]

And that person is posting in general discussion about something that has nothing to do with ddo.
Thanking people for invading other peoples country?

so, why are you chiming in then in a thread that in your opinion does not belong here? Also, for a lot of Americans it is a highly emotional topic, if you want to criticize american foreign policy, go complain on some news site.

[Ivan_Milic]

so, why are you chiming in then in a thread that in your opinion does not belong here? Also, for a lot of Americans it is a highly emotional topic, if you want to criticize american foreign policy, go complain on some news site.

Why not,if he can post thread in general discussion then so can I post here.
If you want to say thank you to american troops go find appropriate sites.

So you are blaming someone who has to do what they are told to do for doing what they are told to do?

Do you feel you should be the one to get the shotgun to the face if you worked at a bank which told you to not give a man his money when he came in asking for it? I mean, you applied for that job, so anything you do at the job, even if told to do it, is YOUR fault and you must be held accountable for it.

Seriously, I know you don't think that way, nobody in their right mind does....

I aint blaming them,they decided to join to army,their choice,no reason to thank them,if they were defending your home country then thank them,not for invading other countries.
I would give him the money,cant put price on life.

[Elation]

Why not,if he can post thread in general discussion then so can I post here.
If you want to say thank you to american troops go find appropriate sites.

Hmm maybe he knows some vets who have friends that have fallen. Its just not american troops either you are ignorant. I know many people who have immigrated here and honor fallen members of their family who served other nations. It is a day of rememberance.

[Arnhelm]

Veterans day is in November. That's when we honor those who have served.

Today is Memorial Day, when we honor those who died in service.

Technical point, but one we often seem to forget, judging by comments made on such threads as this one.

[Izzban]

You all seem to miss the point that the troops do not decide where or who to fight. You may have another guess as to who makes those decisions and may spew your derision and bile there.

[Ivan_Milic]

You all seem to miss the point that the troops do not decide where or who to fight. You may have another guess as to who makes those decisions and may spew your derision and bile there.

When they got in army they agreed to do everything they are told to do.

[Izzban]

When they got in army they agreed to do everything they are told to do.

So you are blaming someone who has to do what they are told to do for doing what they are told to do?

Do you feel you should be the one to get the shotgun to the face if you worked at a bank which told you to not give a man his money when he came in asking for it? I mean, you applied for that job, so anything you do at the job, even if told to do it, is YOUR fault and you must be held accountable for it.

Seriously, I know you don't think that way, nobody in their right mind does....

[Daitengu]

So you are blaming someone who has to do what they are told to do for doing what they are told to do?

Yes of course. At least in the german army the soldiers must not follow illegal orders. So there is an amount of thinking involved.