Would You Put Off TR'ing For A Torc?

[MattiG]

Quick poll really... like a nub, I epic'd my torc and kinda sorta wanted another base before TR'ing Tymn again.

I'm starting to think waiting is dumb. TR'ing in en vogue these days and mostly for good reason IMO, and Tymn is under-TR'd. Have concop, RoSS, 1 pair of viles, archivists, talisman, VPIS, etc... so I'm kinda sorta thinkin' maybe it won't be as annoying as I fear, but I've only ever TR'd a blue bar with a Torc before.

a quick flame-retardant caveat: of course I realize that no one NEEDS a torc to TR and that with Bravery, +20 learning, +30 pots I don't mind buying and SP pots I don't mind buying/using judiciously, that 3rd+ life TR's are much less annoying than they used to be, but play time is limited, and I'm just interested in some feedback from folks that have an opinion on the extent to which their torcs (or absence thereof) better allow their precious time to be leveraged in game.

[Bacab]

How many DQs are you on now?

If you are close to 20,40,60...atleast get to that list.

And I think you *should* wait to TR.

[IllOracle]

I vote 'Yes.'
I've got my ConOp already and a second GS item and still advocate for 20 runs. Some considerations would be if you have a static group then probably not as necessary. Eventually you'll all pull one. Alternatively, if you need other gear / ingredients, why not?

[morticianjohn]

Within 10 completionsto see the raid list, Wait. 10 or more completions until you see that list, don't wait

[Asmodeus451]

i'd strongly advise waiting to TR.

[Orratti]

Yep get to an even 20 number to check out the reward list and then decide whether you want to tr or do another 20 DQs.

[Xezno]

While you TR you blast through content so fast anyway that a TORC isnt really needed. At a moderate leveling pace those 20 completions equals about 3 past lives. The few times i run out of SP i drink the smaller sp pots i pick up on the way. For melee lives all you really need is some decent AC gear and GS weapons, caster lives dont need much stuff at all.

[MattiG]

Thanks very much for the replies. And that reminds me I should have mentioned that I only have 9 completions to go for another 20 list. So I'll use those 27 days to make sure everything else is in order as well, farm tokens, etc...

This has been helpful, and thanks again for the input.

[MattiG]

While you TR you blast through content so fast anyway that a TORC isnt really needed. At a moderate leveling pace those 20 completions equals about 3 past lives. The few times i run out of SP i drink the smaller sp pots i pick up on the way. For melee lives all you really need is some decent AC gear and GS weapons, caster lives dont need much stuff at all.

yeah, see, this is what the little devil/angel on the other shoulder is telling me. But considering I'm off timer tomorrow, that's only another 8 completions. I have other toons that can run with the guild, so tymn can just hop on and solo right when timer is up to keep things flowin...

Getting better stocked up on tokens, etc. in the meantime wouldn't hurt either. But it's nice to see that there are some opinions on both sides of this one. I'll feel less apprehensive about it if I make a snap decision to take advantage of the upcoming bonus xp time.

[Cyndrome]

yeah, see, this is what the little devil/angel on the other shoulder is telling me. But considering I'm off timer tomorrow, that's only another 8 completions. I have other toons that can run with the guild, so tymn can just hop on and solo right when timer is up to keep things flowin...

Getting better stocked up on tokens, etc. in the meantime wouldn't hurt either. But it's nice to see that there are some opinions on both sides of this one. I'll feel less apprehensive about it if I make a snap decision to take advantage of the upcoming bonus xp time.

I would listen to the devil - you will be up to 20 in no time and can use your epic torc again especially with all of the xp bonuses. Get you TRs in before the expansion pack drops.

[MRMechMan]

Torc while TRing is really useful, but not needed.

You probably won't be getting hit all that much. It's nice to have unlimited sp but really, quests go so fast and with ioun stone at low/mid levels sp is rarely an issue.

If within 7-8 completions of a 20th, I'd wait. Otherwise go for it!

[teo36]

I was in a group with some known TR junkies at wiz king and i forgot to use my dw clicky and got insta killed, i said im sorry i dont have deathblock and 1 of them linked me the silver flame necklace and i linked him my torc to say him that the slot is taken. Surprisingly they both started saying that torc is useless at leveling and a waste of slot. I was planning to epic my torc at some point i want to take a break from TRing and do 20 completions at some raids but if i dont get another i'll probably keep TRing.I hope i helped you,cheers

[Chette]

Don't bother unless you've already racked up some DQ completions. It is totally and completely unnecessary for completing a fast TR. 99% of the time you're going to complete the quest with half your SP bar left anyway, and the other 1% it's empty because you dumped it so fast you wouldn't have had to time to regen anything worthwhile anyway.

[sigtrent]

I wouldn't wait, just get it on the next life etc... but I don't really chase gear, I just make best use of whatever I manage to get my hands on.

[PNellesen]

If you're within 5-10 completions of your next 20, I'd say wait and see what the loot gods bring. If you plan to solo a lot, it's DEFINITELY worth waiting, but if you'll be in a group most of the time maybe not quite so important. I've been leveling up a TR Melee Cleric, soloing a lot, and it makes those Very Long quests not nearly as tough when you're able to keep your SP bar almost full for almost the entire quest - Vale, I'm looking at you!

(Oh! And regardless of what you choose, I would recommend NOT TRing until after the MotU update!)

[Inferno346]

Heck no! Noxious embers is much more powerful anyway for leveling-- torc is for soloing epics and raids, not zerging through 0-9 minute quests!

[~Quilny]

Torc is a nice item but not needed for tring I'm on my 20th life atm and i still do not have my torc. Also I have seen people with Torc sacerfice Deathblock for it. which is funny because deathblock can be put other places besides neck.


Just sayin not needed and make sure you do not sacerfice survivability for it.

you can have all the dps sp regen ect ect but doesn't mean anything if you are dead cannot dps/heal when dead.

[eclipse668]

Torc is a nice item but not needed for tring
(...) Also I have seen people with Torc sacerfice Deathblock for it. which is funny because deathblock can be put other places besides neck.
(...) you can have all the dps sp regen ect ect but doesn't mean anything if you are dead cannot dps/heal when dead.

the torq is a comfort item. if you know your TRpace is high and you will use pots (=plat) to level all the time, you don't 'need' a torc per se.
If you can live with the fact you do moderately fast runs at the benefit of low resource consumption the torq and con opp items start to get valuable.

DDO is easy. just chug down enough pots and you can succeed at almost anything.

[Aurora1979]

Im doing excatly that. waiting for my torc before I tr.

I am absolutly not going to TR until I find one. BUT..... thats only because I really really really REALLY(!!!) want one.

I agree with the others though. Generally I would finish off all my next sets of 20th raids then TR, but I'm not going to do the sensible thing.

[wax_on_wax_off]

Probably irrelevant but I'd take Shroud of the Abbot on a wizard life over Torc anyday.