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    Default Epic Envenomed Blade

    Anyone using it? Is this weapon any good?

    Deadly spider venom with a DC of 34 seems strong.
    Enervation:

    Can it be used to bring a creature to 0 level (and thus dead) ? Does it work on bosses?
    What about Epic level creatures and bosses?

    Please post your experience with this item.

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    Since its armor piercing works on both hands it is a great off-hander on fort (bosses) for dex rogues imo. If you got 30 int dual EMG may be better

    For str based or non-rogues, neh. There are better dps weapons out there

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    Dont have it yet, but Im going for it and using the non-epic on and off. Ive been using a weapon combo that includes enervation/cursespewing and paralyzing. between all the effects going off and improved deception, things get real weak and die real fast, I like this better than aiming for dps weapons because so long as sneak is going off Im more concerned with not getting hurt/making sure sneak hits than upping my already great damage.

    I may end up finding something better, as said above, but I wanna use eMG and eEnvenomed. 2x imp.paralyzing, enervation from weapon and rogue ToD set, Imp.deception, bypassing fort that stacks with opportunist... I like it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CanuckWisdom View Post
    Dont have it yet, but Im going for it and using the non-epic on and off. Ive been using a weapon combo that includes enervation/cursespewing and paralyzing. between all the effects going off and improved deception, things get real weak and die real fast, I like this better than aiming for dps weapons because so long as sneak is going off Im more concerned with not getting hurt/making sure sneak hits than upping my already great damage.

    I may end up finding something better, as said above, but I wanna use eMG and eEnvenomed. 2x imp.paralyzing, enervation from weapon and rogue ToD set, Imp.deception, bypassing fort that stacks with opportunist... I like it!
    I was under the impression the ToD set is weak. The SA dmg is not additive with other gear and low (+2 SA). Furthermore the proc rate is supposed to be low and the level drain does not work on epic bosses. Or have they fixed this? (I happen to have the set but I have never used it - all three rogue lives

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    No... its weak. I just havnt admitted to myself that the set I worked to get isnt very good yet.

    The dagger, from the harbor madness chain, has a mixed effect curse/enervation thing, 3-4 effects could go off, and that procs enervation (just one of the options) more than the ToD set does (as a singular effect). Hopefully they'll fix the SA stacking, or just make it +6/10 etc.
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    the polycurse dagger is solid as long as you dont get aggro (if you get hit you can get cursed yourself). i like to use the dagger witht he turbulent eppe which has -80% threat from the same chain for mid level quests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThePrincipal View Post
    the polycurse dagger is solid as long as you dont get aggro (if you get hit you can get cursed yourself). i like to use the dagger witht he turbulent eppe which has -80% threat from the same chain for mid level quests.
    Pretty sure its 80%, or -20%, still good but not a blanket immunity to aggro in groups (which would essentially be the case if it was -80%).
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    Ive never had agro problems with just the -30% from enhancements.

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    Replies kind of got off-topic.
    I wanted opinions on Epic Envenomed Blade but from the lack of replies, either no one has crafted one or no one is using it/lack of interest. If you're piercing spec'ed, there's not much choice in epic gear.

    For non-epic levels, few items are more capable than greensteel weapons. Craft both radiance and mineral and your good to go (and maybe a blunt weapon for undead).

    I just picked up the polycurse dagger. I haven't used it much to comment on whether or not I like it. Turbulent Epee is definitely a good item for the occasions where you must have DR breakers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomhas_of_mabar View Post
    I just picked up the polycurse dagger. I haven't used it much to comment on whether or not I like it. Turbulent Epee is definitely a good item for the occasions where you must have DR breakers.
    It's a fun little weapon I use now and then.

    FYI - the Sustaining Symbiot protects you from getting cursed by it (and also grants greater false life, excepotional Con +1 and exceptional fort +10%)

    http://ddowiki.com/page/Sustaining_Symbiont

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    Got the epic envenomed blade.. being an epic item its base damage is decent, the armour piercing helps with bosses but ideally you need it slotted & arty buff to bypass DR to make it worth it in place of a decent greensteel or crafted bossbeater, but its excellent for trash - the enervation effect is useful though its proc rate is low enough its very unlikely you'll ever neg anything to death with it & the paralysing proc goes off fairly often to provide a bit of CC.
    I used to be with it, but then they changed what it was, now what's it is weird and scary to me.

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    Epic Envenomed Blade is a pierceing wep, while nearly every rog is looking at least for one epic midnight greetings (slashing). So basically to get the best of both you need imp crit slash and pierce= 2 feats=no-go for me

    I crafted the epic envenomed blade as off-hand for my twf bard with Epic Elyd Edge as main. works really well. Armor piercing and para are really nice off-hand effects. I have even seen the poisin proc once in a while, so the DC on that seems to be decent.

    If you are a pierce rog, EEB is a nice wep, if you are slashing rog, EMG beats it, hands down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomhas_of_mabar View Post
    Anyone using it? Is this weapon any good?

    Deadly spider venom with a DC of 34 seems strong.
    Enervation:

    Can it be used to bring a creature to 0 level (and thus dead) ? Does it work on bosses?
    What about Epic level creatures and bosses?

    Please post your experience with this item.
    My squishy rogue dual-wields two of the non-epic versions. They are cool as all get-out.

    Yeah, poison effect means virtually nothing at endgame. The paralyzing aspect, however, is nice. I can paralyze devils on elite in the vale (I was doing that all last night). I assume that an epic blade on an epic quest would be just as potent.

    Dual wielding two of them eliminates the armor piercing for a second blade. However, this is compensated for by doubling your chances for paralysis. And generally, once I get them paralyzed, they stay paralyzed until dead (assuming that I'm still attacking them).
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    Elemental Rapier of Air + Envenomed blade ? Both Piercing..Sounds like a good CC set to me

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