WF Mechanic 12/Artificer 8

[Boombastic]

Would this be a decent class split to gain a rogue past life for a character just looking to get a rogue past life and TR shortly after hitting 20?

[wax_on_wax_off]

Would this be a decent class split to gain a rogue past life for a character just looking to get a rogue past life and TR shortly after hitting 20?

I'd suggest 9 rogue/9 artificer/2 fighter (10 rogue is good but you'd plan to be 7/9/2 at 18 and the last 2 levels don't matter. 9 artificer is particularly good if you have a LitII HRXbow (for lightning motes).

[Boombastic]

I'd suggest 9 rogue/9 artificer/2 fighter (10 rogue is good but you'd plan to be 7/9/2 at 18 and the last 2 levels don't matter. 9 artificer is particularly good if you have a LitII HRXbow (for lightning motes).

Thats not a bad idea. I did plan on making a lit2 HRXbow asap before TRing. What kind of level advancement would I want with a build like that?

[ltlFox]

i'd go for 2 arty 18 assassin , for higher SA & assassinate
insightfull dmg & mechanic int dmg mod for xbows don't stack - so i don't see alot benefits from going high in arty , only 2 for rune arms
& with that i would sugest rad II instead of lit II , but that's for roguish kinds
& i wouldn't make WF , with umd frendly classes you can heal by heal scrolls by 175(rog w&sIV) before heal amp
, & for lvling there are often hire to heal
but as lower lvls it could be convinient to tap blue bar into red

take first lvl as rogue - so you get more skill points
then 2 arty for rune arms
after aim "int to dmg" ability from rog6 or arty 6 , at this point arty should be closer
most usefull feats in order : pbs>PS>IPS>ICr etc...

also with insightfull dmg buff you get near zerro bunuses from mechanic pre

[Boombastic]

i'd go for 2 arty 18 assassin , for higher SA & assassinate
insightfull dmg & mechanic int dmg mod for xbows don't stack - so i don't see alot benefits from going high in arty , only 2 for rune arms
& with that i would sugest rad II instead of lit II , but that's for roguish kinds
& i wouldn't make WF , with umd frendly classes you can heal by heal scrolls by 175(rog w&sIV) before heal amp
, & for lvling there are often hire to heal
but as lower lvls it could be convinient to tap blue bar into red

take first lvl as rogue - so you get more skill points
then 2 arty for rune arms
after aim "int to dmg" ability from rog6 or arty 6 , at this point arty should be closer
most usefull feats in order : pbs>PS>IPS>ICr etc...

also with insightfull dmg buff you get near zerro bunuses from mechanic pre

2 levels of arty makes the runearm damage essentially useless. I am aware of insightful damage and mechanic pre not stacking, the plan was insightful strike+mechanich pre, adding int to both hit and damage, not to mention endless fusillade and repair spells to self heal as a WF

[ltlFox]

looks like solid plan , by doing so you can kinda dumb dex at 17(core) with another +2 from tomes for 19 to meet require,ents for IPS
if you plan use arty lvls for to hit & rog for dmg mod
then you'd better aim arty 3 for to hit , & then rog 6 for dmg , but that time insight hit buff will be 3 mins only - quite annoing
you might want take more arty lvls first for duration or take metamagick feat & then swap it out or keep (but for one or two buffs kinda not that good profit)

about rune arm - it's damage will be like quater of possible - being 50% as only half arty lvls & further more pens for being less charged (for high lvl rune arms) - roughly

another posible aims what to get first : arty 6 for endless reload - nice to kill tough target , rog as first lvl for skill points & rog 2 for evasion

& there is f2p repeater min lvl 16 with int/dex attack mod (easy to get) http://ddowiki.com/page/Doublecross_Bow

[Boombastic]

looks like solid plan , by doing so you can kinda dumb dex at 17(core) with another +2 from tomes for 19 to meet require,ents for IPS
if you plan use arty lvls for to hit & rog for dmg mod
then you'd better aim arty 3 for to hit , & then rog 6 for dmg , but that time insight hit buff will be 3 mins only - quite annoing
you might want take more arty lvls first for duration or take metamagick feat & then swap it out or keep (but for one or two buffs kinda not that good profit)

about rune arm - it's damage will be like quater of possible - being 50% as only half arty lvls & further more pens for being less charged (for high lvl rune arms) - roughly

another posible aims what to get first : arty 6 for endless reload - nice to kill tough target , rog as first lvl for skill points & rog 2 for evasion

& there is f2p repeater min lvl 16 with int/dex attack mod (easy to get) http://ddowiki.com/page/Doublecross_Bow

Yeah, I am fairly certain I have eaten 2 +2 tomes on my arty so far. I am aiming for completionist b.c why not? I have nothing better to do with what spare time I leave myself, why not something that can keep me busy for a while :P. My initial plan was rogue at first for the slight boost to skill points, then arty to 7 so I can get Battle Engineer, then 1 more rogue for evasion, then 2 more arty, then finish my way to 20 with rogue levels. The rune arms will likely be just used for added crossbow damage, and the ability to be crafted

[jayboss1]

you might want take more arty lvls first for duration or take metamagick feat & then swap it out or keep (but for one or two buffs kinda not that good profit)

Only quicken works on arty item enchantment spells
They also have a minimum duration of 5 minutes regardless of lvl

[Boombastic]

Only quicken works on arty item enchantment spells
They also have a minimum duration of 5 minutes regardless of lvl

^yup. Which is why currently my first life drow arty has quicken but not extend :P

[MartinusWyllt]

2 levels of arty makes the runearm damage essentially useless.

But not the added damage dice to your repeater from the rune arm, that's the same.

[Boombastic]

But not the added damage dice to your repeater from the rune arm, that's the same.

Correct, but endless fusillade easily makes up for the 4 less rogue levels if you're built around heavy repeater dps

[MartinusWyllt]

Correct, but endless fusillade easily makes up for the 4 less rogue levels if you're built around heavy repeater dps

I'd want battle engineer, for sure.

[Boombastic]

yeah I plan on getting battle engineer asap, then rogue. figured 2 more arty levels would give me more self healing via repair spells since I am planning on being WF