Another request

[jayboss1]

Another build request, this time for myself

Rogue minimum level 12 for mechanic II
Preferably Drow but open to human or half-elf as well
Trap skills
Pure or xclass with arti would be ideal

I have 32 point build, all classes, vet 7 and a +3 surpreme tome sitting in the bank

[MeatSheild]

I had this lying around as an idea for an all dwarven party but I always thought it would work better as a h-elf with cleric dil (start with ranger swap it out after you eat the +3 tome). I'm not that big of a fan of ranged combat, but meh.

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Level 20 Chaotic Good Dwarf Male
(1 Fighter \ 13 Rogue \ 6 Artificer) 
Hit Points: 328
Spell Points: 320 
BAB: 14\14\19\24
Fortitude: 13
Reflex: 17
Will: 9

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             14                    17
Dexterity            16                    24
Constitution         17                    20
Intelligence         15                    18
Wisdom                8                    11
Charisma              6                     9

Tomes Used
+3 Tome of Strength used at level 11
+3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 11
+3 Tome of Constitution used at level 11
+3 Tome of Intelligence used at level 11
+3 Tome of Wisdom used at level 11
+3 Tome of Charisma used at level 11

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               3                    11
Bluff                -2                    -1
Concentration         3                     5
Diplomacy            -2                    -1
Disable Device        n/a                  n/a
Haggle               -2                    -1
Heal                 -1                     0
Hide                  3                     7
Intimidate           -2                    -1
Jump                  2                     3
Listen               -1                     0
Move Silently         3                     7
Open Lock             n/a                  n/a
Perform              n/a                   n/a
Repair                2                     8
Search                2                    10
Spot                 -1                     4
Swim                  2                     3
Tumble                n/a                   n/a
Use Magic Device     n/a                    n/a

Level 1 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 2 (Rogue)


Level 3 (Artificer)
Feat: (Selected) Point Blank Shot


Level 4 (Artificer)


Level 5 (Artificer)


Level 6 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Rapid Shot


Level 7 (Rogue)


Level 8 (Rogue)


Level 9 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Precise Shot


Level 10 (Rogue)


Level 11 (Rogue)


Level 12 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Ranged Weapons
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Ranged Weapons


Level 13 (Rogue)


Level 14 (Artificer)
Feat: (Artificer Bonus) Quicken Spell


Level 15 (Artificer)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 16 (Artificer)


Level 17 (Rogue)
Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Improved Evasion


Level 18 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Precise Shot


Level 19 (Rogue)


Level 20 (Rogue)
Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Opportunist
Enhancement: Artificer Damage Boost I
Enhancement: Artificer Damage Boost II
Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost II
Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost III
Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost IV
Enhancement: Rogue Skill Boost I
Enhancement: Rogue Skill Boost II
Enhancement: Artificer Crossbow Attack I
Enhancement: Artificer Crossbow Damage I
Enhancement: Artificer Improved Rune Arm Use I
Enhancement: Artificer Improved Rune Arm Use II
Enhancement: Artificer Battle Engineer I
Enhancement: Artificer Rune Arm Overcharge I
Enhancement: Rogue Sonic Trap Lore I
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy I
Enhancement: Rogue Subtle Backstabbing I
Enhancement: Rogue Subtle Backstabbing II
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Rogue Mechanic I
Enhancement: Rogue Mechanic II
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy I
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy II
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy III
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training II
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training III
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training IV
Enhancement: Improved Disable Device I
Enhancement: Improved Disable Device II
Enhancement: Improved Disable Device III
Enhancement: Improved Open Lock I
Enhancement: Improved Open Lock II
Enhancement: Improved Open Lock III
Enhancement: Improved Use Magic Device I
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I
Enhancement: Rogue Improved Trap Sense I
Enhancement: Rogue Improved Trap Sense II
Enhancement: Rogue Wand and Scroll Mastery I
Enhancement: Rogue Wand and Scroll Mastery II
Enhancement: Rogue Wand and Scroll Mastery III
Enhancement: Rogue Wand and Scroll Mastery IV

[stoerm]

Isn't mechanic overkill when you have 19 trapper levels and free repeater proficiency? I'd also skip disable device and lock enhancements.

Thumbs up for dwarf!

[andreascott89]

I would assume this build would want to max INT. Mechanic + 6 levels of artificer allows you to add your INT mod to both +to hit and + damage when using your repeater.

I thought that was the point

Anyway, what would you lose out on if you dropped dex down to the min needed to get IPS and boosted INT?? (basically put all level ups into INT...)

J

[jayboss1]

I would assume this build would want to max INT. Mechanic + 6 levels of artificer allows you to add your INT mod to both +to hit and + damage when using your repeater.

I thought that was the point

Anyway, what would you lose out on if you dropped dex down to the min needed to get IPS and boosted INT?? (basically put all level ups into INT...)

J

i suppose only AC if you can somehow fit Insightful Reflexes in there as well

[MeatSheild]

You have to take the OL and DD enh for mech. Personaly I'd start at a 12-14 int 15 dex 14con and maxed out str then went 18 assasin 2 monk, but this guy wants ranged. Ranged was my original idea for this toon but I tossed it out the window when my dwarven friend stop playing. Like I said I'm not huge into ranged and it was a work in progress. You could swap out a toughness feat for insightful reflexes and put all lv ups into int afterall all your going to loose out on that way is some AC so who realy cares, it sounds like a good idea to me.

[jayboss1]

made attempt at it myself

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Level 7 Neutral Good Drow Female
(6 Rogue \ 1 Artificer) 
Hit Points: 105
Spell Points: 200 
BAB: 4\4
Fortitude: 4
Reflex: 8
Will: 3

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(28 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 7)
Strength             10                    10
Dexterity            16                    16
Constitution         14                    14
Intelligence         18                    20
Wisdom                8                     8
Charisma             10                    10

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 4

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 7)
Balance               7                    13
Bluff                 0                     0
Concentration         4                    13
Diplomacy             4                     4
Disable Device        8                    19
Haggle                4                     5
Heal                 -1                    -1
Hide                  7                    13
Intimidate            0                     0
Jump                  0                     0
Listen               -1                     1
Move Silently         7                    13
Open Lock             7                    17
Perform               n/a                   n/a
Repair                4                     7
Search                8                    21
Spot                  3                    15
Swim                  0                     0
Tumble                7                    15
Use Magic Device      4                    10

Level 1 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+4)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Diplomacy (+4)
Skill: Disable Device (+4)
Skill: Haggle (+4)
Skill: Hide (+4)
Skill: Move Silently (+4)
Skill: Open Lock (+4)
Skill: Search (+4)
Skill: Spot (+4)
Skill: Tumble (+4)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+4)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Enhancement: Rogue Skill Boost I
Enhancement: Improved Disable Device I
Enhancement: Improved Open Lock I
Enhancement: Rogue Improved Trap Sense I


Level 2 (Artificer)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Artificer Crossbow Damage I
Enhancement: Improved Spot I
Enhancement: Artificer Energy of Creation I


Level 3 (Rogue)
Skill: Concentration (+3)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Point Blank Shot
Enhancement: Rogue Electric Trap Lore I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Improved Search I
Enhancement: Rogue Wand and Scroll Mastery I


Level 4 (Rogue)
Ability Raise: INT
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+3)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Rogue Item Defense I
Enhancement: Improved Concentration I
Enhancement: Improved Tumble I


Level 5 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+4)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Rogue Skill Boost II
Enhancement: Improved Disable Device II
Enhancement: Improved Open Lock II
Enhancement: Improved Spot II


Level 6 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Hide (+3)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Precise Shot
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Improved Search II
Enhancement: Improved Tumble II


Level 7 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Hide (+2)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Rogue Mechanic I

gonna go arti for the next two levels and then it will start to shine

[GallantKnight]

If you don't know where all the traps are, you need to move more into Wisdom if you want an effective trapper. At least 12, preferably more, or your Spot skill is going to be sucking wind. Personally, I prefer NOT to set off traps with my face.

[GallantKnight]

Here's what I came up with.

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Level 20 True Neutral Drow Male
(12 Rogue \ 2 Ranger \ 6 Artificer) 
Hit Points: 256
Spell Points: 382 
BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
Fortitude: 12
Reflex: 20
Will: 11

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats         Base Stats         Modified Stats
(28 Point)       (Level 1)          (Level 20)           (Level 20)
Strength             12                 12                   12
Dexterity            16                 16                   20
Constitution         13                 16                   16
Intelligence         14                 16                   18
Wisdom               14                 14                   14
Charisma             10                 10                   10

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills        Base Skills        Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)          (Level 20)          (Level 20)
Balance               7                 15                   15
Bluff                 4                 10                   10
Concentration         1                 13                   13
Diplomacy             0                  0                    0
Disable Device        6                 27                   37
Haggle                4                 10                   10
Heal                  2                  7                    7
Hide                  3                  5                    5
Intimidate            0                  0                    0
Jump                  5                 11                   11
Listen                2                 12                   14
Move Silently         3                  5                    5
Open Lock             7                 28                   38
Perform               n/a               n/a                   n/a
Repair                2                 14                   18
Search                6                 27                   33
Spot                  6                 25                   31
Swim                  1                  1                    1
Tumble                7                 16                   16
Use Magic Device      4                 23                   23

Level 1 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+4)
Skill: Bluff (+4)
Skill: Disable Device (+4)
Skill: Haggle (+4)
Skill: Jump (+4)
Skill: Open Lock (+4)
Skill: Search (+4)
Skill: Spot (+4)
Skill: Tumble (+4)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+4)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Feat: (Automatic) Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Drow Spell Resistance
Feat: (Automatic) Elven Keen Senses
Feat: (Automatic) Enchantment Save Bonus
Feat: (Automatic) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Shuriken
Feat: (Automatic) Heroic Durability
Feat: (Automatic) Immunity to Sleep
Feat: (Automatic) Light Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Rapier
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Shortsword
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Shortbow
Feat: (Automatic) Shuriken Expertise
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Sneak
Feat: (Automatic) Sneak Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Spell Save Bonus
Feat: (Automatic) Trapfinding
Enhancement: Rogue Skill Boost I
Enhancement: Improved Disable Device I
Enhancement: Improved Open Lock I
Enhancement: Rogue Improved Trap Sense I


Level 2 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Bluff (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Defensive Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Evasion
Feat: (Automatic) Sunder
Feat: (Automatic) Trip
Enhancement: Rogue Sonic Trap Lore I
Enhancement: Rogue Faster Sneaking I
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy I
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I


Level 3 (Ranger)
Skill: Concentration (+4)
Skill: Heal (+4)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Human
Feat: (Selected) Point Blank Shot
Feat: (Automatic) Bow Strength
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency (ALL)
Feat: (Automatic) Shield Proficiency (General)
Feat: (Automatic) Wild Empathy
Enhancement: Ranger Energy Resistance Boost I
Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Ranger Sprint Boost I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I


Level 4 (Ranger)
Ability Raise: CON
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Heal (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Rapid Shot
Feat: (Automatic) Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Elven Dexterity I
Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity I


Level 5 (Rogue)
Skill: Disable Device (+2)
Skill: Open Lock (+2)
Skill: Search (+2)
Skill: Spot (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
Feat: (Automatic) Trap Sense


Level 6 (Artificer)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Ranged Weapons
Feat: (Automatic) Artificer Construct Mastery
Feat: (Automatic) Artificer Knowledge: Scrolls
Feat: (Automatic) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Great Crossbow
Feat: (Automatic) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Repeating Heavy Crossbow
Feat: (Automatic) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Repeating Light Crossbow
Feat: (Automatic) Inscribe Artificer Scroll
Feat: (Automatic) Magical Training
Feat: (Automatic) Medium Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Rapid Reload
Feat: (Automatic) Revive Iron Defender
Feat: (Automatic) Unleash Iron Defender
Enhancement: Artificer Crossbow Damage I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Artificer Energy of Creation I


Level 7 (Artificer)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Artificer Knowledge: Potions
Feat: (Automatic) Rune Arm Use
Enhancement: Artificer Improved Rune Arm Use I
Enhancement: Artificer Intelligence I


Level 8 (Artificer)
Ability Raise: CON
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Artificer Knowledge: Wands
Enhancement: Uncaring Master
Enhancement: Elven Dexterity II


Level 9 (Artificer)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Artificer Bonus) Augment Summoning
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Finesse
Feat: (Automatic) Trapmaking
Enhancement: Artificer Crossbow Attack I
Enhancement: Artificer Rune Arm Overcharge I
Enhancement: Improved Disable Device II
Enhancement: Improved Open Lock II


Level 10 (Artificer)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Artificer Knowledge: Arms and Armor
Feat: (Automatic) Retain Essence


Level 11 (Artificer)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Artificer Damage Boost I
Enhancement: Artificer Damage Boost II
Enhancement: Artificer Intelligence II


Level 12 (Rogue)
Ability Raise: CON
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Jump (+5)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Ranged Weapons
Feat: (Automatic) Uncanny Dodge
Enhancement: Artificer Battle Engineer I


Level 13 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+4)
Skill: Disable Device (+2)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Rogue Skill Boost II
Enhancement: Rogue Improved Trap Sense II


Level 14 (Rogue)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Rogue Subtle Backstabbing I
Enhancement: Rogue Mechanic I


Level 15 (Rogue)
Skill: Bluff (+5)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Nimble Fingers
Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity II


Level 16 (Rogue)
Ability Raise: INT
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Repair (+5)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Improved Uncanny Dodge
Enhancement: Improved Disable Device III
Enhancement: Improved Open Lock III


Level 17 (Rogue)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Repair (+5)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost II
Enhancement: Rogue Subtle Backstabbing II
Enhancement: Artificer Energy of Creation II


Level 18 (Rogue)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Listen (+5)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Improved Evasion
Feat: (Selected) Lightning Reflexes
Enhancement: Rogue Wand and Scroll Mastery I
Enhancement: Rogue Wand and Scroll Mastery II


Level 19 (Rogue)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+5)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Rogue Wand and Scroll Mastery III


Level 20 (Rogue)
Ability Raise: INT
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Listen (+5)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Artificer Improved Rune Arm Use II
Enhancement: Rogue Mechanic II
Enhancement: Improved Disable Device IV
Enhancement: Improved Open Lock IV

Obvious choice for the first two levels is Rogue. Max the skills you need and get that Evasion early on.
Taking the 2 ranger levels next gives you better melee options with TWF for when you get overwhelmed and allows you to keep up your Search/Spot skills. Be sure to keep up your DD/OL too. Normally, I'd take Weapon Finess at lvl 3 and use Rapier/Shortsword in melee. The next six levels are Artificer and the rest are Rogue. If you take Weapon Finess at lvl 3, be sure to take your Engineer prereq's before taking anything else. I think you'll find this build fun to play and slightly more efficient at DPS and Traps in the higher levels.

[unbongwah]

Congrats on UMDing that Raise Dead scroll, GallantKnight, but perhaps you should've invested more in your Spot score too...