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    Quote Originally Posted by AtomicMew View Post
    The statement "dungeon scale has something to do with it" does not support your opinion, because the converse of your opinion is not incongruous with with this statement.

    That is, "BB has something to do with it" is also not incongruous with "dungeon scale has something to do with it." Therefore, you can see how "BB has nothing to do with it" is an unsupported statement.
    That quote is NOT from the OP so I think you are the one is off track.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xynot2 View Post
    That quote is NOT from the OP so I think you are the one is off track.
    Of course, that's because I agree with the OP. But...

    Quote Originally Posted by Chai View Post
    Bravery bonus has nothing to do with it.
    So, yeah.

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    Not a problem for me.

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    Dont want to seem rude in anyway but... why would you bother with normal? Its way to easy and boring (with the exception of very select few quests) and with the bonus theres no extra xp. Unless you're a brand new player to this game I dont see I reason why anyone would run normal ever......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Delssar View Post
    Unless you're a brand new player to this game I dont see I reason why anyone would run normal ever......
    Exactly the point. New players wont stay long if they cant get a party going.

    I personally dont care. I have enough toons and enough side stuff to keep me very busy so if I cant find a run I want to do with any of my 14 toons, I do something like craft, sort thru loot that I thought I might want (I should be on that show Hoarders) or browse the wiki to see if there's an Item I need that I missed. People play the way they want and Im good with that. Which is why I stated *make your own group*.

    But I can see the point of the thread when it comes to turning off new players who cant find a group.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mobrien316 View Post

    Character Level = Not more than two levels above listed quest level:
    First time completing Normal = 50% bonus to XP
    First time completing Hard = 150% bonus to XP
    First time completing Elite = 250% bonus to XP

    Character Level = Not more than three levels above listed quest level:
    First time completing Normal = 40% bonus to XP
    First time completing Hard = 135% bonus to XP
    First time completing Elite = 225% bonus to XP

    Character Level = Not more than four levels above listed quest level:
    First time completing Normal = 30% bonus to XP
    First time completing Hard = 120% bonus to XP
    First time completing Elite = 200% bonus to XP
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    Might just be the worst suggestion I have ever read on these forums. I know that sounded harsh so to make you feel better here is joke .

    If you think nobody cares if you're alive, try missing a couple of payments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thanquil View Post
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    Might just be the worst suggestion I have ever read on these forums. I know that sounded harsh so to make you feel better here is joke .

    If you think nobody cares if you're alive, try missing a couple of payments.
    Since your join date is four days ago, I'm not offended if this is the worse suggestion you've ever read on the forums.


    My dwarf has more time in the can at the Wayward Lobster than that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mobrien316 View Post
    Since your join date is four days ago, I'm not offended if this is the worse suggestion you've ever read on the forums.


    My dwarf has more time in the can at the Wayward Lobster than that.
    you must be a slow reader

    Speed reading is a very useful skill, but there are some obstacles that stand in the way of speed reading.
    Did you know that most people read slowly only because of habit?
    A child who is just beginning to learn to read examines each letter, reads each syllable, pronounces each word, follows along a line with his finger, skips back and forth, and ultimately becomes a slow reader for the rest of his life.

    so don't feel bad that you are confused by join date meaning I haven't read a lot of posts. Also I believe that join date is wrong sense I've been playing on the Orien and khyber servers for over 4 years now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mobrien316 View Post
    Since your join date is four days ago, I'm not offended if this is the worse suggestion you've ever read on the forums.


    My dwarf has more time in the can at the Wayward Lobster than that.
    also sorry can't stop laughing what is it that you do in the wayword lobster that takes you 4 days LOL



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    Simple solution would be to tone down the steak bonuses and add an incremental bonus for having a bigger group. Then you can tune which incentive is dominant to encourage grouping, find a balance, etc.

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    I posted this to a different thread, but I should post it here:

    Giving bonus for streaks on hard and elite has totally taken DDO from my favorite addiction into a massive headache. Why? Because it doesn't matter what our group make up is, we MUST do everything on elite, and that often leads to utter fail at the end of 90 minutes in places like Monastery Of The Scorpion. Yeah... that was last night, and I had to immediately go to work after 90 minutes of pure frustration and equipment decimation. If you don't save against the disco balls at first, it doesn't get any better after dying 9 times!

    On the bright side, we did new content on Lamannia tonight on normal and hard, and it was thoroughly enjoyable.

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    Default Don't see the problem mate only your opinion.

    You don't want to wait on a party? A "Group" is 2 or more.

    So, don't.

    Learn the quests.

    Manage your experience/bank your levels so you can comfortably hit Vale NO SOONER than level 18.

    Do Shroud Flagging Quests on Elite. Be patient. It may take a time or two. You may have to solo/duo some of them on casual to learn them.

    Once you get the Vale Quests done on Elite, Farm them on Hard/Normal you will be able to gain enough experience even on a 3+ lifer even breaking the streak and doing the quests past Vale at your own pace.

    Level 17+ quests on Elite can be very challenging even for geared TRs.

    I prefer to solo/duo most quests.

    I don't wait. I will find something I am able to do for XP and maintain the Bravery Bonus on my own terms.

    I've taken the time to learn the quests by Soloing or Duoing on Normal/Casual before bravery bonuses.

    It's just as easy to learn them now on Normal/Casual.

    Rely on yourself. Learn to play your own way.

    Quit making opinion based suggestions for mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feralthyrtiaq View Post
    You don't want to wait on a party? A "Group" is 2 or more.

    So, don't.

    Learn the quests.

    Manage your experience/bank your levels so you can comfortably hit Vale NO SOONER than level 18.

    Do Shroud Flagging Quests on Elite. Be patient. It may take a time or two. You may have to solo/duo some of them on casual to learn them.

    Once you get the Vale Quests done on Elite, Farm them on Hard/Normal you will be able to gain enough experience even on a 3+ lifer even breaking the streak and doing the quests past Vale at your own pace.

    Level 17+ quests on Elite can be very challenging even for geared TRs.

    I prefer to solo/duo most quests.

    I don't wait. I will find something I am able to do for XP and maintain the Bravery Bonus on my own terms.

    I've taken the time to learn the quests by Soloing or Duoing on Normal/Casual before bravery bonuses.

    It's just as easy to learn them now on Normal/Casual.

    Rely on yourself. Learn to play your own way.

    Quit making opinion based suggestions for mine.
    Im with ya but what about newbs?

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