When odd war is coming

[AirbornedChild]

Sorry for my bad English(I am russian).
I need to tell about some situations in my playing DDO. I'll not tell nicknames, because you have already knwon them.

Party for eCoF. Leader asked me about my 1800 SP(cleric). I told him that it is ok. You should know that i've finished eCoF with this cleric. 400 SP left to 1st shrine. Then rogue had some problems with panel on bringe, used one pot. However we finished it.

About party for eCoF some days ago. You all know about crushing when you're entering Sands. I said "Prepare to crush!" Then i came in and client wasn't crushed. I said "woohoo'. Then leader decided "to run without me".

Pay attention WHY HE SQUELCHED me. Only for words.

Second situation. eDeep. West side. I hate it because wizards cannot CC those f eles!!!!! Wiz failed and died. And of course. He decided to blame me(cleric). He failed CC - but he blamed cleric.

It is not my fault if wizards cannot CC and kill those f eles. Never blame healer if you cannot handle CC. Also, at the start of west side i had to instakill 2 eles(wizard didn't do that). And they started to blame me for HEALING MONK AT BOTTOM. He was nearly dead, I saved him.
I run eDeep after this one. Two wizards in party. Both were killed during end fight(west side). Of course, you started to blame me, but don't forget that they were PM and I have only one Harm to keep them alive. I saved that situation and we finished epic. We got our shards.

Two wizards died in west side. There is one way to prevent it. KILL THOSE F ELES AT ONCE THEY APPEAR!!! And don't remember that they were kiting and I had to face them to harm.

I'm not the best but i'll not let to blame me.

I failed only one eVoN on my bard. I just fell down(was lagged). Others were successful. Except one when melees didn't kill all eggs.

I don't have any failed eVoN6 on my cleric.

Today I had to break order of healing. FvS was using mass heal without quicken. All you know that Velah can knockdown you. Sometimes... Also that fvS died twice and i had to trueres him and use massheal after(of course, I use quicken for mass heal). And one man said that i was worse than that FvS only because I broke order.

It is too dangerous to cast mass heal on Velah(I know, I used to get knockdowned some time). Also one old friend said to me that FvS can always turn on quicken - they have enough SP to do it.

Third situation. Today's Wizking Monk started to blame me(PM to leader). Haha, it is not easy to heal there. Also.

THERE IS A BUG WITH SPELLCASTING NOW. Even if you face your target you cannot heal it("Target is blocked" appears). I asked guild members about it. And I was told that even our leader noticed this bug on his healer.
But monk couldn't know about this bug(he is a monk). Also people were running away and I couldn't keep all in sight for healing. It is wizking, people. You know about these rooms, corridors and stairs. Leader didn't started to blame me. Then monk left and we finished epic(we got one more players to get full party).

Just try to play healer. And you can get this bug. Don't blame healers now. I want to heal you but sometimes I cannot do this.

Well. I said i'll not tell their nicknames. And I will do this.

However, I got eChrono on my cleric when we didn't even use additional shrine for end fight. tank was awesome, other melees did their best.

And some players continue to say that I'm bad player.
Yes, my bard hasn't Extend. It is experiment. And many players don't care of this fact. I cast haste twice instead of one in eADQ. Is it bad if we finished it? Of course, no.

[AirbornedChild]

Where i need to use extend? Of course, VoD(Displacement), may be ToD. I'm not sure if Horoth try to banish every 2 minutes(or 3). I'm not sure.

Others...

You can always cast haste/rage again when Velah is breathing.
You can always cast Haste/Rage again in ADQ2. And of course, I will keep Disp on healers(if they don't have torc).
You can always cast Haste/Rage again in eChrono.
You can always cast Haste/Rage again in HoX/VoD.
Reaver? ROFL!!!!! I don't want to say anything about this raid.

Usual epics... Don't remember any where it could be a problem.

LoB Finished on hard(yes, I just started) even without extend. Just recasting Haste/Rage.

I have to deal with it - it is experimental hybrid bard's build.

My faults...

Tell me about them if you remember(except those I said before). And we could discuss was it my fault or wasn't...

Tell me ABOUT FAULTS. Not about my build.

And remember that there only ONE way to know if I am bad player. You have to run with me.

[AtomicMew]

Sorry for my bad English(I am russian).
I need to tell about some situations in my playing DDO. I'll not tell nicknames, because you have already knwon them.

Party for eCoF. Leader asked me about my 1800 SP(cleric). I told him that it is ok. You should know that i've finished eCoF with this cleric. 400 SP left to 1st shrine. Then rogue had some problems with panel on bringe, used one pot. However we finished it.

About party for eCoF some days ago. You all know about crushing when you're entering Sands. I said "Prepare to crush!" Then i came in and client wasn't crushed. I said "woohoo'. Then leader decided "to run without me".

Pay attention WHY HE SQUELCHED me. Only for words.

Second situation. eDeep. West side. I hate it because wizards cannot CC those f eles!!!!! Wiz failed and died. And of course. He decided to blame me(cleric). He failed CC - but he blamed cleric.

It is not my fault if wizards cannot CC and kill those f eles. Never blame healer if you cannot handle CC. Also, at the start of west side i had to instakill 2 eles(wizard didn't do that). And they started to blame me for HEALING MONK AT BOTTOM. He was nearly dead, I saved him.
I run eDeep after this one. Two wizards in party. Both were killed during end fight(west side). Of course, you started to blame me, but don't forget that they were PM and I have only one Harm to keep them alive. I saved that situation and we finished epic. We got our shards.

Two wizards died in west side. There is one way to prevent it. KILL THOSE F ELES AT ONCE THEY APPEAR!!! And don't remember that they were kiting and I had to face them to harm.

I'm not the best but i'll not let to blame me.

I failed only one eVoN on my bard. I just fell down(was lagged). Others were successful. Except one when melees didn't kill all eggs.

I don't have any failed eVoN6 on my cleric.

Today I had to break order of healing. FvS was using mass heal without quicken. All you know that Velah can knockdown you. Sometimes... Also that fvS died twice and i had to trueres him and use massheal after(of course, I use quicken for mass heal). And one man said that i was worse than that FvS only because I broke order.

It is too dangerous to cast mass heal on Velah(I know, I used to get knockdowned some time). Also one old friend said to me that FvS can always turn on quicken - they have enough SP to do it.

Third situation. Today's Wizking Monk started to blame me(PM to leader). Haha, it is not easy to heal there. Also.

THERE IS A BUG WITH SPELLCASTING NOW. Even if you face your target you cannot heal it("Target is blocked" appears). I asked guild members about it. And I was told that even our leader noticed this bug on his healer.
But monk couldn't know about this bug(he is a monk). Also people were running away and I couldn't keep all in sight for healing. It is wizking, people. You know about these rooms, corridors and stairs. Leader didn't started to blame me. Then monk left and we finished epic(we got one more players to get full party).

Just try to play healer. And you can get this bug. Don't blame healers now. I want to heal you but sometimes I cannot do this.

Well. I said i'll not tell their nicknames. And I will do this.

However, I got eChrono on my cleric when we didn't even use additional shrine for end fight. tank was awesome, other melees did their best.

And some players continue to say that I'm bad player.
Yes, my bard hasn't Extend. It is experiment. And many players don't care of this fact. I cast haste twice instead of one in eADQ. Is it bad if we finished it? Of course, no.

Oh haha, you almost got me there. Well played.

[Chefd261]

Don't know about what happened to you but very very simple solution If you know these people don't want to play with you (not saying their reasons are correct) don't run with them put up your own LFM or find people that you do want to run with.If you are trying to clear your good name on the forum's by explaining the situation it is not going to be very effective unless you list the toon names that you play (I also don't recommend this though since you may open yourself up to trolling by people who don't even care and just want to troll)

[AirbornedChild]

Don't know about what happened to you but very very simple solution If you know these people don't want to play with you (not saying their reasons are correct) don't run with them put up your own LFM or find people that you do want to run with.If you are trying to clear your good name on the forum's by explaining the situation it is not going to be very effective unless you list the toon names that you play (I also don't recommend this though since you may open yourself up to trolling by people who don't even care and just want to troll)

The funniest thing is that I have many successful epic raids with people. Many players dealt with non-extended Haste/Rage. I alway keep my eye on buffs and i'll recast them before they expire. I can make CC in most of epics(42 DC). Yes, as bard. I can make drow to dance.

And after all my epics and raids I can say that Extend is not necessary feat for bard. It is optional, it saves your SP a bit. It is like saying that emp healing is must have for SS(ROFL, bard cannot heal, he can only cure so it is better to use scrolls for healing). Bard have too weak spells(healing and damaging) so the best way is to make CC CHA based bard.

Of course, people can make eSoS WC. But there are two roles for bard. It is like saying that Virtuoso is completely useless. This prestige has awesong strong song, song of Capering. If you have high Perfom only 20 will save enemy(even drow with their SR). People just never tryed to play Virtuoso more than one day. That is the answer why they think he is useless.

WC is barbarian(it is better to make barbarian instead). SS is boring(piker). Virtuoso is funny(with right build): CC and strong criticals(comparing to SS, not eSoS WC).

[Aussieee]

Yes, my bard hasn't Extend. It is experiment. And many players don't care of this fact. I cast haste twice instead of one in eADQ. Is it bad if we finished it? Of course, no.

My situation is different, people want extended haste, but I do not give it to them I find this feat to be a waste on a bard for 1 spell....... and with sp as many as your cleric I can cast it again and again

[Blank_Zero]

Don't be mean and bait him on Aussie

[Infant]

SS is boring(piker). Virtuoso is funny(with right build): CC and strong criticals(comparing to SS, not eSoS WC).

How is a the melee ability of a CHA-based SS any different from the melee ability of a CHA-based Virtuoso? What are these "strong criticals"?

[Emili]

My situation is different, people want extended haste, but I do not give it to them I find this feat to be a waste on a bard for 1 spell....... and with sp as many as your cleric I can cast it again and again

Ya just prefer multiple quickies...

[Gawna]

Crush the Sands! CRUSH IT!

[danotmano1998]

<Various stories about some quests>

THERE IS A BUG WITH SPELLCASTING NOW. Even if you face your target you cannot heal it("Target is blocked" appears).

Aha! So your point in that post was there's a bug with spellcasting that prohibits you from casting heal?

[maddmatt70]

Where i need to use extend? Of course, VoD(Displacement), may be ToD. I'm not sure if Horoth try to banish every 2 minutes(or 3). I'm not sure.

Others...

You can always cast haste/rage again when Velah is breathing.
You can always cast Haste/Rage again in ADQ2. And of course, I will keep Disp on healers(if they don't have torc).
You can always cast Haste/Rage again in eChrono.
You can always cast Haste/Rage again in HoX/VoD.
Reaver? ROFL!!!!! I don't want to say anything about this raid.

Usual epics... Don't remember any where it could be a problem.

LoB Finished on hard(yes, I just started) even without extend. Just recasting Haste/Rage.

I have to deal with it - it is experimental hybrid bard's build.

My faults...

Tell me about them if you remember(except those I said before). And we could discuss was it my fault or wasn't...

Tell me ABOUT FAULTS. Not about my build.

And remember that there only ONE way to know if I am bad player. You have to run with me.

Poor play is poor play. If you can not keep displacement on the melee then you should pick up extend so perhaps you can.

[maddmatt70]

My situation is different, people want extended haste, but I do not give it to them I find this feat to be a waste on a bard for 1 spell....... and with sp as many as your cleric I can cast it again and again

Yeah because bards do not buff. I have recently ran or joined two raids where the bard could not keep us hasted and had trouble keeping inspire courage on us and no we never received displacement. I guess I missed the memo where it says bards do not buff because bards do uber dps and everything else.

[Emili]

Tell me ABOUT FAULTS. Not about my build.

And remember that there only ONE way to know if I am bad player. You have to run with me.

Here you be correct... everything else you bring up superficial, blatantly naive and childish in rational.

The scope is however you did not mesh, fit in or cooporate with the party leaders ideas, tactics nor comfort zone. This may be in line of play style and/or build in attaining the goal within the "star" (party leader's) plan.

Be it right or wrong... it is their group. Why sure, rant if you wish but please move along.

[Beer_Dude]

Ya just prefer multiple quickies...

I see what you did there. Always the whitty one aren't you Em?

[Emili]

I see what you did there. Always the whitty one aren't you Em?

No not really, just unrestrained ramblings, possibly a suggestive invitation to a beach... or water fall? ' course honeyed, melodically speaking, an' take it slow.

All in all, break in thread 'fore Pavel falls in the deep end over nothin'.

[AirbornedChild]

Poor play is poor play. If you can not keep displacement on the melee then you should pick up extend so perhaps you can.

Huh I completed eADQ2 yesterday. Barbarians didn't want to split up when she was casting cometfall. I went away - they stayed, they died(they have low saves).

And they called me useless. The funniest thing was the PM "Keep them hasted". I answered: "I'm with them however so their buffs have the same duration".

It is better to continue blaming me for non-taking Entend.

Lol, bard with 80 Perfom cannot fail bases eVoN6. People are just intolerant.

And...

CC those F ELES in west side of Deep!!!

And tell that f Laoron that man with he doesn't have any braincell.

PS eCoF aren't hard IMO(Virtuoso opinion). Disable casters. Use web. Profit!!!

About damage: I'm using EEE and Swashbucler, criticals 100(not 200-300 of course, but I have high Enchanment DC). I DON'T CARE ABOUT ENEMY'S WILL SAVE - only 20 can save them from Song of Capering.

And yes, I like 6-man quests more.

[AirbornedChild]

Yeah because bards do not buff. I have recently ran or joined two raids where the bard could not keep us hasted and had trouble keeping inspire courage on us and no we never received displacement. I guess I missed the memo where it says bards do not buff because bards do uber dps and everything else.

Hm, what is wrong with my playing in your opinion? My dramas? I seem to be mad for most of people, because they are usual(they think that all other people are the same, I think that all people are different).

If you need Haste - SHOUT!!! Displacement? I think that it is better to have 20 minute Blur. Yes, it is. I decided. It is better if caster will get archers' agro than they will hit other members of raid.

Bards are not slaves to be only buff machines. I prefer to play with people which don't make me to do what I do not want(like taking uselees feat or casting useless GH).

Why is GH useless when you have bard in your party? It is simple. Courage gives +7/+7 hit/damage(GH gives +4 to hit). Heroics give +4 AC/+4 saves(GH gives +4 saves). Well, +4 skills left and fear immunity. If there is no fear and knockdown in boss fight then it is better to use 2 songs with EEE than cast GH 11 times.

Players who can use scrolls can cast GH with their own clickie/scroll. Others needn't +4 skill(I repeat - no fear and knockdown in fight).

Now you can try to counter my opinion. But it is useless.

People even don't know that 2 songs give more than GH. And they keep asking for it. And casters keep casting it WHEN THERE IS A BARD IN PARTY!!!

If you don't trust me, just check it out. Courage+Heroics > GH in most of situations.

[Chefd261]

I can't believe I am posting on here again but here we go.

Questions

Are you just keeping this thread alive so you can vent if so very few people know you by you forum name. (if it is just to vent "cool" all power to you)

I said this up higher in the thread (not really a question but what the heck) If these people don't like playing with you (due to your style or whatever) stop playing with them (just put them on your "I don't like playing with these people list") and find some people who have a similar style (play the game the way you want to since you pay/paid for it after all) but don't expect everyone to want to play with you.

Im not knocking you but I do think if you could just find some people who want to play the same way as you this would be a much more enjoyable game for you (but thats just my two cents for what it is worth).

If you are 80%-100% pug'ing it then people are going to expect ( regardless of if they are right or wrong ) that you are in the rough majority as far as play style goes (no one plays exactly the same but many "although not all of us" have some similarities)

well I don't know if any of that will help you enjoy the social part of the game more but I gave it a shot.

[AirbornedChild]

I can't believe I am posting on here again but here we go.

Questions

Are you just keeping this thread alive so you can vent if so very few people know you by you forum name. (if it is just to vent "cool" all power to you)

I said this up higher in the thread (not really a question but what the heck) If these people don't like playing with you (due to your style or whatever) stop playing with them (just put them on your "I don't like playing with these people list") and find some people who have a similar style (play the game the way you want to since you pay/paid for it after all) but don't expect everyone to want to play with you.

Im not knocking you but I do think if you could just find some people who want to play the same way as you this would be a much more enjoyable game for you (but thats just my two cents for what it is worth).

If you are 80%-100% pug'ing it then people are going to expect ( regardless of if they are right or wrong ) that you are in the rough majority as far as play style goes (no one plays exactly the same but many "although not all of us" have some similarities)

well I don't know if any of that will help you enjoy the social part of the game more but I gave it a shot.

You are right, but those people started to make other players to decline me. It is not correct.

The only way to find that player is bad is to be in a party with him/her. Nobody has any right to blame somebody, to say their quildies to not run with. If guildies just agreed then they are mindless.

Example:

All we remember Fatherkline. I am the one player who was running with him in RR(farming runes). He made his job well - he always healed me when it was necessary.

Other example:

I was running eADQ1 as the one with DD. I was invited by friend. Wujoh said that I am bad and that leader should put lfm up. I made my job(it wasn't hard). At the end... READ IT AGAIN AND AGAIN

HE HAD JUMLED TO LAVA!!! Then he asked me to help him. I don't know lava in ADQ well so I didn't want to jump there.

It was his REAL fault(jumping down, I SAW IT!!!). I swear he started to blame me in guild chat. But Killingspree was agree with me. I mustn't jump there. It was his fault. And I made my job in epic well.

Wujoh just wanted to get another "reason" to dislike me. Even if I don't like player(in fact I don't have any disliked player, we all can make a mistake, even "old" players), I'll do my best, BECAUSE IT IS MY JOB.

Well, 3rd example:

nLoB Leader asked me to use extended GH(I don't have Extend, I have Highten and Quicken). I used regular buffs. I resang buffs whet it was necessary, kept melee hasted(usually I prefer to stay with other melee players), etc. And we completed it.

So I repeat: People have no any tolerance. People shouldn't make others to use REGULAR builds. Why am I playing game if other players will tell me how I must feat my character?

It is my choice. It is like people say that even drow must have 16 CON.
Ha-ha, even with 30 points I can make 15 CON/20 INT. Do you want me to make 16 CON/19 INT? LAWL!!!
I chose drow to get 20 INT instead of 18. It is easier to choose human for 16 CON. But I chose drow and I have to play with 14 CON.

Lvl 5: 20 CON(with ship), 92 hp(+10 neck). And I cannot get more HP now. I'll get +2 additional CON soon and +20 hp. But however I cannot get to WF's HP. Ask other drow players why they chose this race: INT, CHA.

What is better? +20 hp or +1 DC? I chose +1 DC.