Epic Destinies

[Tolero]

Curious about the upcoming Epic Destinies system? Take an early look at our developer round-table by clicking here! Use this thread for Epic Destinies discussion!

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[whereispowderedsilve]

Oops might want to move or merge the thread I made in Gen to here Sorry!

Please & thanks a bunch! :P! !

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=371352

Hooray Yay! :P! !

[Malky]

From the roundtable text :

[...] and other players will be able to recognize you as a Grandmaster of Flowers when you punch a whole bunch of enemies into the future so hard you instantly defeat them.

Actually, we're already grandmasters of flowers. Just wait for a lag spike, swing at a mob and ten seconds later (i.e. into the future).... all your damage is coming instantly!

/sorry, couldn't resist

[Qzipoun]

I came here expecting an AC thread, but I'll take this... time to start reading

[Monkey-Boy]

I came here expecting an AC thread, but I'll take this... time to start reading

LOLz, I'll be very happy if we get some details on that but I expect to see it when it goes live.

[Cyr]

Okay tell me if my understanding here is correct or where I veer off course...

• You gain more for leveling past level 20 then just epic destinies, but that functionality has not been released yet.
• Reach level 21 and you choose an epic destiny 'tree'. The tree you then level up in with quest xp as normal, except you can swap trees and level up all the way in all them (but you can only use the currently slotted one). The level ups in the tree basically give you AP to use in that tree.
• Twists of fate are basically a way to slot multiple destiny trees or buy the top tier abilities out of an already opened tree. You guys think that 3 is going to be the limit to start and these are gained by reaching certain thresholds in the basic trees (they are like the 'levels' in epic destiny xp). Basically you can open up another pre err I mean epic destiny tree or get the top end stuff (unclear if this is a single twist of fate point for top tier access to an already slotted tree or if there is more then one stage of unlocks for these).
• TRs keep all their progress in these trees, but can not use or advance these trees until they hit level 21 again.

[MadFloyd]

Okay tell me if my understanding here is correct or where I veer off course...

• You gain more for leveling past level 20 then just epic destinies, but that functionality has not been released yet.
• Reach level 21 and you choose an epic destiny 'tree'. The tree you then level up in with quest xp as normal, except you can swap trees and level up all the way in all them (but you can only use the currently slotted one). The level ups in the tree basically give you AP to use in that tree.
• Twists of fate are basically a way to slot multiple destiny trees or buy the top tier abilities out of an already opened tree. You guys think that 3 is going to be the limit to start and these are gained by reaching certain thresholds in the basic trees (they are like the 'levels' in epic destiny xp). Basically you can open up another pre err I mean epic destiny tree or get the top end stuff (unclear if this is a single twist of fate point for top tier access to an already slotted tree or if there is more then one stage of unlocks for these).
• TRs keep all their progress in these trees, but can not use or advance these trees until they hit level 21 again.

Corrections to above:

• You can choose an Epic Destiny at level 20.
• Twists of Fate allow you to use an ability from a non-active tree.
• TRs cannot use or advance these trees until they hit level 20 again. Also, some abilities will have level pre-reqs (meaning some abilities may not be usable until you hit level 21, 22, 23 etc).

[Cyr]

Corrections to above:

• You can choose an Epic Destiny at level 20.
• Twists of Fate allow you to use an ability from a non-active tree.
• TRs cannot use or advance these trees until they hit level 20 again. Also, some abilities will have level pre-reqs (meaning some abilities may not be usable until you hit level 21, 22, 23 etc).

Oh does #2 there mean that it only lets you use an ability and not the tree itself?

As in you slot a tree (without twist) and you get X points to buy stuff from it in. You slot (twist) for another tree and get to choose one ability to use from it. You slot (twist) for your already opened tree and you get more points to use (or higher cap on those points) in that tree?

[psteen1]

Corrections to above:

Twists of Fate allow you to use an ability from a non-active tree.
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from the bottom of the tree only? Only a pre-set list of abilities in that tree?

[tihocan]

from the bottom of the tree only? Only a pre-set list of abilities in that tree?

Looks like you can upgrade your Twist of Fate to unlock a tier 2 or tier 3 ability (since in their current system you can only get 3 ToF slots, you can't go beyond tier 3).
So with 3 ToF slots obtained, you can have 3 tier 1 abilities, 1 tier 2 + 1 tier 1, or 1 tier 3.

[Captain_Wizbang]

• Epic Destiny at level 20.

I love the whole concept and the way you all have approached this.

Back in December, I made a thread with some thoughts on lvl 20 & beyond, http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=353541 and what you have come up with is spot on.

Can't wait for the release.

Epic Destinies is going to be one of the best additions to this game we've seen and been waiting for.

[Zorth]

Corrections to above:

• You can choose an Epic Destiny at level 20.
• Twists of Fate allow you to use an ability from a non-active tree.
• TRs cannot use or advance these trees until they hit level 20 again. Also, some abilities will have level pre-reqs (meaning some abilities may not be usable until you hit level 21, 22, 23 etc).

the word again should be omited here. Tr's cannot use or advance these trees until they hit level 20.
The word again makes me think that I should wait until the update to reach level 20 and/or that If I am level 20 when the update comes out that I need to TR again to make it work. Confusing wordage.

[danotmano1998]

Ok, theres a lot of things in here that I read I cannot wait to try out!!!

Nice job all, sounds like this new addition will be.. ehmmm.. EPIC!



Now when's that BETA? *rubs hands together excitedly*

Oh, and as for you guys NOT making people redo their epic levels again and NOT having to grind more XP for TR's??
*hug*

BTW, the astrological preliminary layout looks very nice.

[Qzipoun]

Was hoping for a little more detail, the post is mainly how the system works as opposed to what it does But hopefully all this stuff is in the beta

One tidbit (and only real detail given):

Also, this is all subject to change! With that out of the way, the Master’s Blitz counter increments forward each time a Tactical Feat is successfully used. Once the counter reaches 50, you gain the ability to use Master’s Blitz. Upon activation, for 10 seconds you gain an additional 50% dodge and deal an additional 25% melee damage. Any time you kill an opponent while under the effects of Master’s Blitz, you gain an additional stack of the melee damage bonus and restart the duration. If you are below 50% health when you first activate this ability, you start with two stacks of increased damage instead of one. The damage bonus stacks up to 100 times.

I found the highlighted part even more intriguing then the ability itself... interesting

[maddmatt70]

Was hoping for a little more detail, the post is mainly how the system works as opposed to what it does But hopefully all this stuff is in the beta

One tidbit (and only real detail given):



I found the highlighted part even more intriguing then the ability itself... interesting

My guess is they are going to a % based system for ac with a comparison vs. monster Challenge Rating. For e.g. a character has 40% dodge chance vs. CR 45 monsters and a 80% dodge chance vs. CR 25 monsters.

[tihocan]

Sounds interesting... The part about Twists of Fate really confused me though.

[themoonbreaker]

I cannot begin to tell you how excited I am that this system has the potential to make my wiz/monk viable at end game. Looking forward to it.

[HalfORCastrator]

Cyr, pretty sure it'll be starting at level 20, rank 1.

One thing that hasn't been mentioned is how many experience points this will take, per Destiny.

Edit: and yeah, twists confused me a bit too. These are used for Destiny switches and buying levels above lvl3 Destiny?

[alexdesuu]

Is Epic Destinies available to any character who reach lvl 20?
Or is it only available to people who have purchased Menace of the Underdark?

[Qzipoun]

Is Epic Destinies available to any character who reach lvl 20?
Or is it only available to people who have purchased Menace of the Underdark?

You will need to purchase SOMETHING.

Currently, something = any of the three preorder packs.

My guess is at some point they will release a store item that unlocks only eDestinies, but chances are they will keep it bundled at Xpack launch