Althought I do not play on Lammania I suspect this thread will be most useful here. I apologize if I have overlooked some information that makes this thread redundant or this issue has been fixed.
Dwarves are supposed to have a +2 bonus to saves against magical effects, with the option add +1/+2/+3 to saves against magical effects via enhancement points. My character Wraltham has taken the first two levels of dwarven saves, giving him a total of +4 to saves against magical effects. Below, you can see my dwarven rogue evading a blade barrier.
Wraltham's reflex is 23, but you can see 29 is added to his d20 (+23 reflex +4 dwarf and +2 paladin aura = +29.) I would expect to receive similar bonuses when saving against other spells as well. Cometfall is shown below:
Against cometfall, Wraltham has a 22 reflex, but only 24 is added to his d20. I do not have the paladin aura effect, but you can see from my buff bar I am not debuffed nor have I somehow respec'd my character to lose the additional +2 to saves against spells that I have taken with APs.
Anyways this was a mystery to me and I wondered if anyone could explain the disparity between spells. It seems as thought the save die were either showing incorrect numbers or the dwarven bonus was not working correctly.
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Thread: Dwarven Save vs Cometfall
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05-02-2012, 02:13 PM #1Community Member
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Dwarven Save vs Cometfall
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05-02-2012, 02:17 PM #2Community Member
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Cometfall has two reflex saves, one for knockdown and one for (half) damage. The knockdown portion is considered non-magical.
See: http://ddowiki.com/page/Cometfall
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05-02-2012, 02:28 PM #3Community Member
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Thank you for the quick response. What effect is giving me an additional +2 to my save against the non-magical trip? I may have moved out of range of the paladin aura before I took the screenshot but it seems unlikely.
Last edited by andepans; 05-02-2012 at 02:30 PM.
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05-02-2012, 04:30 PM #4Community Member
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If its a trip effect then you're not making a reflex save
http://ddowiki.com/page/Trip
The target then takes a Strength or Dexterity save (whichever is higher) against a DC of 10 + Strength modifier + related Enhancements + related item bonuses. Should the target fail its check, the target is tripped.
If you calculate using that are you still getting all the relevant bonuses to reach a base 24 save? (str mod + enhancements + feats + items)?
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