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    Default Alternative for Gs heavy repeater

    Hello all, i have 1 gs conc opp and planning to make more 2 gs itens, but my artificer isnt the priority now, so still didnt make the repeater, atm using doublecross repeater (nice cuz paralysing effect procs a lot) ... but im thinking im doing little dmg so, whats a good alternative for gs repeater? calomel lvl 16 tier 3 is good? (i have all mats for tier 1 and 2)

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    109 views and nobody said nothing... so there isnt any choice beside gs, right?

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    Epic hellfire crossbow and alchemedal weapons are all I can think of.
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    LitII can proc alongside Tovens hammer (useful being as you can carry lightning motes)

    Doublecross is nice.. once epic its GOOD

    Silver slinger is great

    Calomel is REALLY great on dragons/fire types

    MIN II i dont see the point of
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    as i said before, my poor art isnt my priority in gs craft, so lit II or even min II isnt rly an option to me

    doublecross (not epic) and silver slinger i have and both are ok, silver slinger against undead is pretty nice tho

    the problem is, the time i will have to spend to epic/alchemical/gs craft is proibitive to me... my sorc trs are priority... its sad.. i thought i could see calomels as an alternative and less time consuming

    what about a single shard gs repeater? any plausive option to increase my dmg? im using mostly doublecross, wop and silver slinger

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    tier 3 calomel wouldn't be too bad. not that awesome either, but not bad.

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    Between Doublecross and Silver Slinger, you have an option each for fleshies and for undead. The only gap that comes to mind is constructs. See if you can find or craft a Smiter or Greater Construct Bane.

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    If time is an issue you could craft one in usual gBane holyburst style, you can always use house d metal bolts and keep deadly weps active
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    Whups... completely missed your WoP reference in your second post which was my original suggestion.

    Look into crafting an Improved Cursespewing of Improved Shattermantle/Destruction (or both) through Cannith crafting. Both are cheap to make and have many applications that make quests much easier for the party. Although kill count is nice and it can be easy for an Arti to be at the top in a lot of quests, I find that specialty weapons like these combined with the Arti's high rate of fire mean you are often the best one to pull back on damage a bit and wield them so the rest of the party can go all out.
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    Default I crafted a

    Tier 2 POS/POS GS HRXBow for my Arti who also is not a priority.

    HOLY/Good Burst

    Works great without LDS investment until I decide that I need something better (which I don't)

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    On my arti life I didn't have all the mats for a dualshard gs, so went with a +++ repeater, it worked really well, not only against undead. Only a few larges are needed, super cheap and nice dps. Currently run with that and a radiance, pretty much all you need except for some cannith crafted specials.
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    If you've already got a Wounding of Puncturing, Doublecross Bow, and Silver Slinger, everything else would be mostly situational.

    Banishers work pretty well in The Vale, but aren't really much better than the WoP or Doublecross, and that repeater also makes a paralyzer pretty redundant. You have the Slinger so you can do without a disruptor (even more so if you have Hand of the Tombs). A Smiter would be nice for the House C quests, but those seem next to impossible to get for a decent price on the AH.

    Excluding Green Steel and Epics, I would definitely try and get your hands on a Holy/Holy Burst of Evil Outsider/Greater Evil Outsider Bane for 'Arry and other raid bosses, and a Holy/Holy Burst of Construct/Greater Construct Bane for portals and House C.

    As for myself, I use the Doublecross, Silver Slinger, LitII, WoP, Holy of EOB, Holy of CB, Vacuum II (I know. I made it BEFORE I read about the terrible proc rate), and am up to Tier II on a Triple Pos (no Hand of the Tombs so I wanted a disruptor and as a single shard GS it's fairly easy to make).

    Sundering Ooze Green Steel. That's next on my list. Just sayin'.

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    thx for all the replies... what im using is : doublecross, silver slinger, wop, anarch burst of smiting... but i dunno why i see my dmg so low.. int build (just 1 lvl in dex for ips)... what makes lit II so nice? the lightning proc?

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    Quote Originally Posted by alemulet View Post
    thx for all the replies... what im using is : doublecross, silver slinger, wop, anarch burst of smiting... but i dunno why i see my dmg so low.. int build (just 1 lvl in dex for ips)... what makes lit II so nice? the lightning proc?
    The GS lit II gets a whole bunch of nice damages to bonus (lightning blast, lightning burst and holy) and the occasional lighting proc. Plus the dice is [1.5] 1d10.

    With my first arty, I couldn't wait to make one, so I made a +++ first. For its relatively cheap cost, it's very effective. I sometimes prefer it still over the Lit II - and you get a raise clicky, which comes in very handy.

    After I made the Lit II, I started making a GS Min II - mainly because of the Lord of Blades quest. If you run out of sp, and you don't have a metalline weapon, the Min II comes in really handy (or when trash is immune to lightning). But it's quite expensive to make as a side weapon.

    I just pulled a level 21 Nightmare repeater - the nice thing about 20+ level repeaters is that their damage dice is 2[1d10] and then they have a lot of goodies.

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    In regards to generic xbows, I carry an improved curse spewing of improved destruction for use on EE or other tough bosses.

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    I'd like to add a utility weapon which I started to love quite a bit on my rogue as a Rapier: Improved Cursespewing of Improved Destruction.

    With summoned Bolts, you don't even need to craft it as a +5 weapon, which will safe you some essences. On the other hand, if you plan to use House D Arrows, making it a +5 weapon isn't a bad idea either.

    Re: Lit2. Yes, the really nice thing is the lightning strike. http://ddowiki.com/page/Lightning_Strike

    It deals 610 damage on average per proc, and procs with 1.5%. This is roughly the same damage increase as a +15 to int (+7.5 damage mod translates to +9 damage, including crits. These numbers are not realistic, as you do not get half a point of extra damage from +Int, but rather to give you some comparison.)
    On top of this, Lightning Motes can be used to enhance this damage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by karl_k0ch View Post
    Re: Lit2. Yes, the really nice thing is the lightning strike. http://ddowiki.com/page/Lightning_Strike

    It deals 610 damage on average per proc, and procs with 1.5%. This is roughly the same damage increase as a +15 to int (+7.5 damage mod translates to +9 damage, including crits. These numbers are not realistic, as you do not get half a point of extra damage from +Int, but rather to give you some comparison.)
    On top of this, Lightning Motes can be used to enhance this damage.
    This. Also, base damage on a Green Steel Heavy Repeater is 2d8 (vs 1d10 for a normal one).

    Silver Weapons (or whatever) to bypass DR, cast Lightning Motes, hit Endless Fusillade, and watch the purple numbers fly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ka0t1c1sm View Post
    Silver Weapons (or whatever) to bypass DR, cast Lightning Motes, hit Endless Fusillade, and watch the purple numbers fly.
    Iirc, Silver Bolts plus deadly weapons will be better dps than +6 Bolts plus Silver DR.
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    Quote Originally Posted by karl_k0ch View Post
    Iirc, Silver Bolts plus deadly weapons will be better dps than +6 Bolts plus Silver DR.
    that sounds like the sort of thing people less lazy than me would do

    but yes, that would be more DPS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaid314 View Post
    that sounds like the sort of thing people less lazy than me would do

    but yes, that would be more DPS.
    Ditto. I'm too lazy.

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