I can do everything but is it enough?

[Lasulie]

Do metamagics affect the artificers potion based spell?

[Zectarash]

I know of a great build that you might also want to try out, since it's similar: a Warforged Favored Soul Healer/Tank hybrid. It deals nice DPS, has ~2.3k SP at 20 and has DR ~15/addy, but is a tad gear intensive. Look around for the "Soul Survivor" by Sirgog. It's on the forums, I forget where.

Edit: Scratch that. Added it to my Sig. Also here. Go to some of the later posts that incorporate Angel of Vengeance.

Edit2: This isn't that bad a prototype build you have going. I've seen some pretty gimpy pure Fighter tank builds (DR based without HP... Doesn't work).

[Lasulie]

I know of a great build that you might also want to try out, since it's similar: a Warforged Favored Soul Healer/Tank hybrid. It deals nice DPS, has ~2.3k SP at 20 and has DR ~15/addy, but is a tad gear intensive. Look around for the "Soul Survivor" by Sirgog. It's on the forums, I forget where.

Edit: Scratch that. Added it to my Sig. Also here. Go to some of the later posts that incorporate Angel of Vengeance.

Edit2: This isn't that bad a prototype build you have going. I've seen some pretty gimpy pure Fighter tank builds (DR based without HP... Doesn't work).

Thanks for the link but I realy love bards and I got to have some of that in my build XD.
I'll probably take tips from this thread and remake without the range focus make it a TWF bard with 2-3 rogue levels and 1 arti level for the level 1 spell that gives +1 to weapons and more SP.

[Scalion]

I think a melee 12 bard can work, but not a ranged one like you suggest.

Just my opinion, but it seems to me like you're kind of forcing the artifice class into a build where it doesn't need to be.

Bard and Artificer are similar because they provide unique things to a group, but that doesn't mean they mix that well together. Just my opinion, but if you're going to multiclass a bard, don't multiclass it with other spellcasters.

[BuyTiles]

To be blunt. I cant think of a reason I would want that build in a group. If I knew you and knew you were able to play that toon at a high level, no problem. But seeing that mix hit my LFM? Probably gonna pass.

you have none of the desired Artificer Buffs. You are short on Bard songs. You are short on Spell Points.

No. Scrolls of Heal/Cure Serious wounds are not going to keep up end game raids/Epics. and there are LOTS of builds that can toss those scrolls around if need be.


My Criteria for judging my own multiclass builds is something like this.

What does the multiclass give the build that makes it more attractive than a pure class?

Your build is a "Bard" by design.(Due to your icon being bard)

2 Rogue.. Evasion... Traps... Bards with Evasion and Trap skills are good...

6 Artificer.... Ranged damage.. Good.. Traps.. Already have that.... buffs? no important ones ... and now I lose lots of Bard abilities... Not so good

16Bard/2Rogue/2Arti Will basically give you all the benefits you are currently getting AND leave your bard levels high enough to perform well as a Bard.

All some valid points, but I'd like to chime in.
evasion with mediorce saves isn't worth 2 levels of rogue.
For my bard past life I levelled a 6/14 arti/bard, and it was a blast, but was never designed past getting the bard past life. It was rock solid, had good enough self heals, decent dps and ok buffs, and thats as far as it went. Not once did I miss not having evasion (and I love evasion).

If this is a character you'll want to keep at 20, I'd have to say, don't. If all you want is a bard pl and repeater goodness, go 2 more bard, get those buffs and cures early.

Arti 6 gets INT to damage buff, which without and Arti really does suck dps wise.

[Bacab]

I view Bard and Arty in the same build as I would view CLR/FVS or WIZ/SOR. Just pick one and focus on that.