Fighter(paladin splash)

[Ash]

Hi all,

I am thinking about running this for when I TR my first toon as a paladin.
Now this is just a beta/test idea but i think overall it has some merrit so i thought i would post it to see if you all could point out things i might have missed?

Note(s):
1) a +3 supreme tome was eaten in current life so they will kick in at 3/7/11 in the new life.
2) the 20th level feat of Heavy repeater is a joke(maybe) as i don't know what else i could put in its place
3) when leveling i tended to sit on some of the enhancement points as i was sorta of uncertain which direction i wanted to go. so in my final version they might get spent more on level/time.
4) where i wanted to go with this... duel wielding blades
4a) why bastards? because they are cheap and plentiful and as i don't have a lot of uber swag.

Thank you for your time. (Fire away)


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Fighter 14 / Paladin 6
Male Human (Lawful Good)

HP: 362
SP: 85
AC: 15

SAVES
FORT: 26
REFL: 17
WILL: 15

BAB: +20/+20/+25/+30

STR: 26 (+8)
DEX: 17 (+3)
CON: 18 (+4)
INT: 14 (+2)
WIS: 12 (+1)
CHA: 22 (+6)

Balance: 14
Bluff: 8
Concentration: 9
Diplomacy: 8
Disable Device: n/a
Haggle: 6
Heal: 1
Hide: 3
Intimidate: 33
Jump: 32

Listen: 1
Move Silently: 3
Open Lock: n/a
Perform: n/a
Repair: 2
Search: 2
Spot: 1
Swim: 8
Tumble: 4
UMD: 17
Include Automatic Feats End-of-Level Stats
BUILD ID: 17689
PAST LIVES SELECTED:
Paladin (1)
LEVEL 1
Race Selected: Male Human
Alignment Selected: Lawful Good
Class Selected: Paladin (Paladin 1)
Abilities Raised: STR: 14, DEX: 14, CON: 15, INT: 11, WIS: 9, CHA: 16
Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +2 (2), Intimidate +2 (2), Jump +2 (2), Tumble +1 (1)
Feats Selected: Exotic Weapons (Bastard Sword), Toughness
Enhancements Selected: Paladin Toughness I, Paladin Extra Smite Evil I
LEVEL 2
Class Selected: Paladin (Paladin 2)
Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +0.5 (2.5), Intimidate +1 (3), Jump +0.5 (2.5)
Enhancements Selected: Paladin Charisma I, Human Improved Recovery I
LEVEL 3
Class Selected: Paladin (Paladin 3)
Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +0.5 (3), Intimidate +1 (4), Jump +0.5 (3)
Feats Selected: Weapon Focus (Slashing)
Tomes Applied: STR: +1, DEX: +1, CON: +1, INT: +1, WIS: +1, CHA: +1
LEVEL 4
Class Selected: Paladin (Paladin 4)
Abilities Raised: STR: 16
Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +0.5 (3.5), Intimidate +2 (6), Jump +0.5 (3.5)
Enhancements Selected: Improved Intimidate I, Racial Toughness I, Paladin Extra Lay on Hands I
LEVEL 5
Class Selected: Paladin (Paladin 5)
Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +0.5 (4), Intimidate +2 (8), Jump +0.5 (4)
LEVEL 6
Class Selected: Paladin (Paladin 6)
Skills Ranks Raised: UMD +2 (2)
Feats Selected: Two Weapon Fighting
LEVEL 7
Class Selected: Fighter (Paladin 6 / Fighter 1)
Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +1 (5), Jump +2 (6)
Feats Selected: Oversized Two Weapon Fighting
Tomes Applied: STR: +2, DEX: +2, CON: +2, INT: +2, WIS: +2, CHA: +2
Enhancements Selected: Fighter Critical Accuracy I, Fighter Attack Boost I, Paladin Extra Smite Evil II
LEVEL 8
Class Selected: Fighter (Paladin 6 / Fighter 2)
Abilities Raised: STR: 18
Skills Ranks Raised: Intimidate +1 (9), Jump +3 (9)
Feats Selected: Improved Critical (Slashing)
Enhancements Selected: Paladin Toughness II, Human Adaptability Strength I, Fighter Strength I, Paladin Charisma II, Racial Toughness II, Improved Intimidate II, Improved Jump I
LEVEL 9
Class Selected: Fighter (Paladin 6 / Fighter 3)
Skills Ranks Raised: Intimidate +2 (11), Jump +2 (11)
Feats Selected: Power Attack
LEVEL 10
Class Selected: Fighter (Paladin 6 / Fighter 4)
Skills Ranks Raised: Intimidate +2 (13), Jump +2 (13)
Feats Selected: Cleave
Enhancements Selected: Fighter Critical Accuracy II, Fighter Attack Boost II, Improved Jump II
LEVEL 11
Class Selected: Fighter (Paladin 6 / Fighter 5)
Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +1 (6), Intimidate +1 (14), Jump +1 (14)
Tomes Applied: STR: +3, DEX: +3, CON: +3, INT: +3, WIS: +3, CHA: +3
LEVEL 12
Class Selected: Fighter (Fighter 6 / Paladin 6)
Abilities Raised: STR: 22
Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +1.5 (7.5), Intimidate +1 (15), Jump +1 (15)
Feats Selected: Improved Two Weapon Fighting, Great Cleave
Enhancements Selected: Fighter Strength II
LEVEL 13
Class Selected: Fighter (Fighter 7 / Paladin 6)
Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +0.5 (8), Intimidate +1 (16), Jump +1 (16), UMD +1 (3)
Enhancements Selected: Fighter Attack Boost III, Fighter Critical Accuracy III
LEVEL 14
Class Selected: Fighter (Fighter 8 / Paladin 6)
Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +0.5 (8.5), Intimidate +1 (17), Jump +1 (17), UMD +1 (4)
Feats Selected: Greater Weapon Focus (Slashing)
Enhancements Selected: Paladin Resistance of Good I, Paladin Bulwark of Good I, Human Greater Adaptability Charisma I
LEVEL 15
Class Selected: Fighter (Fighter 9 / Paladin 6)
Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +0.5 (9), Intimidate +1 (18), Jump +1 (18), UMD +1 (5)
Feats Selected: Greater Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancements Selected: Paladin Energy of the Templar I, Paladin Courage of Good I
LEVEL 16
Class Selected: Fighter (Fighter 10 / Paladin 6)
Abilities Raised: STR: 24
Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +0.5 (9.5), Intimidate +1 (19), Jump +1 (19), UMD +1 (6)
Feats Selected: Weapon Specialization (Slashing)
Enhancements Selected: Fighter Weapon Specialization I, Fighter Strength III, Fighter Kensei I, Kensei Specified Weapon Mastery I
LEVEL 17
Class Selected: Fighter (Fighter 11 / Paladin 6)
Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +0.5 (10), UMD +2 (8)
LEVEL 18
Class Selected: Fighter (Fighter 12 / Paladin 6)
Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +0.5 (10.5), Intimidate +1 (20), Jump +1 (20), UMD +1 (9)
Feats Selected: Greater Weapon Specialization (Slashing), Combat Expertise
Enhancements Selected: Fighter Kensei II, Kensei Specified Weapon Mastery II, Paladin Exalted Smite I
LEVEL 19
Class Selected: Fighter (Fighter 13 / Paladin 6)
Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +0.5 (11), UMD +2 (11)
Enhancements Selected: Paladin Knight of the Chalice I
LEVEL 20
Class Selected: Fighter (Fighter 14 / Paladin 6)
Abilities Raised: STR: 26
Skills Ranks Raised: Intimidate +3 (23), Jump +2 (22)
Feats Selected: Exotic Weapons (Repeating Heavy Crossbow)
Enhancements Selected: Paladin Extra Remove Disease I, Follower of the Silver Flame, Fighter Strategy (Trip) I, Paladin Focus of Good I, Paladin Saves Boost I, Paladin Saves Boost II, Fighter Strategy (Trip) II

[Kinerd]

I have taken the liberty of summarizing and rearranging your post...

Fighter 14 / Paladin 6

Feats
EWP: Bastard Sword
Toughness
TWF/ITWF/GTWF
IC: Slashing
Power Attack
WF, GWF, WS, GWS: Slashing
OTWF

Cleave
Great Cleave
Combat Expertise
EWP: Heavy Repeater

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The first section is all fine. The second section is iffy. Cleaves turn off off-hand chances, so they are pretty poor for TWFers. In all likelihood Combat Expertise will do nothing for you but eat up valuable build points for the Int requirement. Other choices you could make are: Improved Sunder, Stunning Blow, Sap, Quickdraw, more Toughnesses.

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Enhancements
Paladin
KotC 1
-Energy of the Templar 1
-Courage of Good 1
Extra Smite Evil 3
Exalted Smite 1
Paladin Toughness 2
Extra Lay on Hands 1

Fighter
Kensei 2
-Attack Boost 2
-Critical Accuracy 2
Strength 3

Human
Toughness 2
Strength 1
Improved Recovery 1

Paladin
Resistance of Good 1
Bulwark of Good 1
Charisma 2
Saves Boost 2
Extra Remove Disease 1
Focus of Good 1
Silver Flame 1

Fighter
Strategy Trip 2

Human
Charisma 1
Intimidate 2
Jump 2

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Same division here, although I would strongly encourage you to go HotD 1 instead of KotC 1. Three major enhancements missing are Paladin Divine Sacrifice, Fighter Haste Boost, and Human Versatility (Damage Boost). Dropping all of the second division gives you 22 AP to play with, which by fairly astonishing coincidence is 1 more than you need to get all the enhancements just mentioned. Another option is dropping Fighter Strength 3 for the Unyielding Sovereignty enhancement, basically an ultra-heal get out of jail free card.

[Ash]

And thank you very much

With the +3 tomes and a starting Int of 11 i was shooting to build up some skill points as i now have Int and UMD both at 22 points. With a start of only 11 points thats only 3 true stat points (Tome +3 not factored in). I also picked up ComExp because.. uh... thought it would help out. Apparently not so much. Thank you


As to the Cleave not working with twf and the such, thank you again.
I am going to look more into sunder or stunning blow though as alternatives to cleave+

Now the taking of KotC 1 over HotD 1 i thought the end game was more devilish and not so undead? Am i wrong?

I also realized that i took paladin toughness instead of fighter toughness. I will probably swap that out as well since i am going primary fighter.

If i take off fighter str3 then my strength ends up at an odd number. I might as well take off level2 as well then right? I was shooting for as high of a str as possible.

[Kinerd]

And thank you very much

Welcome!

Now the taking of KotC 1 over HotD 1 i thought the end game was more devilish and not so undead? Am i wrong?

There is a significant amount of devilry in end game and little undead; however, HotD isn't strictly about undead. At first tier you get 10% healing amp and automatic Ghost Touch, while KotC 1 gives you +1 attack and 1d6 damage against fiends. Healing amp is fun, not switching weapons is really fun, and 1d6 damage some of the time is really boring, so I like HotD 1 more.

If i take off fighter str3 then my strength ends up at an odd number. I might as well take off level2 as well then right? I was shooting for as high of a str as possible.

I wouldn't worry too much about odd numbers. You never know what exceptional items / guild buffs / whatever you'll pick up. If you get to a steady state, it's not doing anything for you, and some other enhancement leaps out at you, then by all means.

[tekkentroop]

Did you consider going 12 fighter/6 pally/2 monk or rogue? evasion would surely help the build, and youd even get an extra feat if you go monk, or some sneak damage and access to UMD if you go rogue. With 12 levels of fighter, you will still get all the goodies from Kensai II.

[Ash]

DDO CHARACTER GENERATOR
Build ID: 17815

Fighter 12 / Paladin 6 / Rogue 2
Male Human (Lawful Good)

HP: 416
SP: 65
AC: 15

SAVES
FORT: 24
REFL: 19
WILL: 13

BAB: +19/+19/+24/+29

STR: 26 (+8)
DEX: 18 (+4)
CON: 20 (+5)
INT: 14 (+2)
WIS: 12 (+1)
CHA: 20 (+5)

Balance: 25
Bluff: 7
Concentration: 7
Diplomacy: 7
Disable Device: 6
Haggle: 9
Heal: 1
Hide: 4
Intimidate: 30
Jump: 31

Listen: 1
Move Silently: 4
Open Lock: 8
Perform: n/a
Repair: 2
Search: 6
Spot: 5
Swim: 8
Tumble: 8
UMD: 23
Include Automatic Feats End-of-Level Stats
BUILD ID: 17815PAST LIVES SELECTED:
Paladin (1)LEVEL 1
Race Selected: Male Human
Alignment Selected: Lawful Good
Class Selected: Rogue (Rogue 1)
Abilities Raised: STR: 15, DEX: 14, CON: 15, INT: 11, WIS: 9, CHA: 15
Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +4 (4), Disable Device +4 (4), Haggle +4 (4), Jump +4 (4), Open Lock +4 (4), Search +4 (4), Spot +4 (4), Tumble +4 (4), UMD +4 (4)
Feats Selected: Toughness, Power Attack
Enhancements Selected: Rogue Skill Boost I, Improved Intimidate I, Improved Jump I, Improved Balance ILEVEL 2
Class Selected: Paladin (Paladin 1 / Rogue 1)
Skills Ranks Raised: Intimidate +3 (3)
Enhancements Selected: Human Improved Recovery I, Follower of the Sovereign HostLEVEL 3
Class Selected: Paladin (Paladin 2 / Rogue 1)
Skills Ranks Raised: Intimidate +3 (6)
Feats Selected: Exotic Weapons (Bastard Sword)
Tomes Applied: STR: +1, DEX: +1, CON: +1, INT: +1, WIS: +1, CHA: +1
Enhancements Selected: Racial Toughness I, Paladin Charisma ILEVEL 4
Class Selected: Paladin (Paladin 3 / Rogue 1)
Abilities Raised: STR: 17
Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +2 (6)
Enhancements Selected: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands I, Human Versatility I, Paladin Extra Smite Evil I, Human Versatility IILEVEL 5
Class Selected: Paladin (Paladin 4 / Rogue 1)
Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +1 (7), Intimidate +2 (8)
Enhancements Selected: Human Adaptability Strength ILEVEL 6
Class Selected: Paladin (Paladin 5 / Rogue 1)
Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +2 (9)
Feats Selected: Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancements Selected: Racial Toughness IILEVEL 7
Class Selected: Paladin (Paladin 6 / Rogue 1)
Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +1 (10), Intimidate +2 (10)
Tomes Applied: STR: +2, DEX: +2, CON: +2, INT: +2, WIS: +2, CHA: +2
Enhancements Selected: Paladin Extra Turning I, Paladin Improved Turning I, Paladin Hunter of the Dead ILEVEL 8
Class Selected: Fighter (Paladin 6 / Fighter 1 / Rogue 1)
Abilities Raised: STR: 20
Skills Ranks Raised: Jump +4 (8)
Feats Selected: Oversized Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancements Selected: Fighter Toughness I, Fighter Critical Accuracy I, Fighter Haste Boost I, Fighter Attack Boost ILEVEL 9
Class Selected: Fighter (Paladin 6 / Fighter 2 / Rogue 1)
Skills Ranks Raised: Intimidate +2 (12), Jump +2 (10)
Feats Selected: Improved Critical (Slashing), Weapon Focus (Slashing)
Enhancements Selected: Paladin Charisma II, Fighter Strength ILEVEL 10
Class Selected: Fighter (Paladin 6 / Fighter 3 / Rogue 1)
Skills Ranks Raised: Intimidate +1 (13), Jump +3 (13)
Enhancements Selected: Unyielding SovereigntyLEVEL 11
Class Selected: Fighter (Paladin 6 / Fighter 4 / Rogue 1)
Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +1 (11), Intimidate +1 (14), Jump +1 (14)
Feats Selected: Weapon Specialization (Slashing)
Tomes Applied: STR: +3, DEX: +3, CON: +3, INT: +3, WIS: +3, CHA: +3
Enhancements Selected: Fighter Toughness II, Fighter Critical Accuracy IILEVEL 12
Class Selected: Rogue (Paladin 6 / Fighter 4 / Rogue 2)
Abilities Raised: STR: 23
Skills Ranks Raised: UMD +11 (15)
Feats Selected: Improved Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancements Selected: Fighter Attack Boost II, Fighter Haste Boost IILEVEL 13
Class Selected: Fighter (Paladin 6 / Fighter 5 / Rogue 2)
Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +2 (13), Jump +1 (15)
Enhancements Selected: Rogue Dexterity ILEVEL 14
Class Selected: Fighter (Fighter 6 / Paladin 6 / Rogue 2)
Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +1 (14), Intimidate +2 (16), Jump +1 (16)
Feats Selected: Greater Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancements Selected: Human Greater Adaptability Constitution ILEVEL 15
Class Selected: Fighter (Fighter 7 / Paladin 6 / Rogue 2)
Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +1 (15), Intimidate +2 (18), Jump +1 (17)
Feats Selected: Toughness
Enhancements Selected: Fighter Strength IILEVEL 16
Class Selected: Fighter (Fighter 8 / Paladin 6 / Rogue 2)
Abilities Raised: STR: 25
Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +1 (16), Intimidate +1 (19), Jump +2 (19)
Feats Selected: Greater Weapon Focus (Slashing)
Enhancements Selected: Fighter Kensei ILEVEL 17
Class Selected: Fighter (Fighter 9 / Paladin 6 / Rogue 2)
Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +1.5 (17.5), Intimidate +1 (20), Jump +1 (20)
Enhancements Selected: Fighter Weapon Specialization I, Kensei Specified Weapon Mastery ILEVEL 18
Class Selected: Fighter (Fighter 10 / Paladin 6 / Rogue 2)
Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +1.5 (19), Intimidate +1 (21), Jump +1 (21)
Feats Selected: Exotic Weapons (Repeating Heavy Crossbow), Improved Sunder
Enhancements Selected: Fighter Strength IIILEVEL 19
Class Selected: Fighter (Fighter 11 / Paladin 6 / Rogue 2)
Skills Ranks Raised: Balance +1 (20), Intimidate +1 (22), Jump +1 (22), UMD +0.5 (15.5)
Enhancements Selected: Fighter Toughness III, Racial Toughness IIILEVEL 20
Class Selected: Fighter (Fighter 12 / Paladin 6 / Rogue 2)
Abilities Raised: CON: 20
Skills Ranks Raised: UMD +2.5 (18)
Feats Selected: Greater Weapon Specialization (Slashing)
Enhancements Selected: Fighter Kensei II, Kensei Specified Weapon Mastery II, Fighter Item Defense I