build idea

[erikbozelie]

just getting some ideas(at 5 am morning still gaming) for my next build and i thought id be a good idea to write it down somewhere before i forget, not going into detail since it wont be needed.
Its just a leveling build to get through

concept: 16 bard, 2 fighter, 2 barbarian or 12 bard, 6 barbarian, 2 fighter.

hiding behind a tower shield adds 25% damage resistance, aswell as a 100% bonus to aggro with intimidate(125% with orc enhancements).
swinging either a bastardsword or dwarven waraxe and getting 50% glancing blows should become a nice amount of damage with songs, doublestrike and a good strength / power attack enhancements.

the past life feat and splash of barb would open up certain enhancements off half orc, 6 would open more, and would also give this character a nice rage ability.

know i do know this character will have issues casting spells,
tower shield can be swapped and reequipped, cant remember, but i dont think this procs any global cooldown asfar as i know. and if there is, its not very long.

lets give it a go(using12/6/2 for now):
i wont bother writing down every single ability, just the parts i am interested in.
50 strength:18base +4 race +5levelups +7 enhancements +2 exceptional +2rage(spell) +4rage(barb) +2 orc power rage +2 barbarian power rage +2 frenzy +2 ship
32 con:16 base +2barb +4 rage +6 enhancements +2ship +2 rage(spell) (too lazy to search up all the different rage stacking).

yes, i know, can get it higher with exceptional1 str, titan grip, madstone boots etc, not gonna bother for this build.
doubt ill have problems hitting with songs and 50 strength, lets see a damage estimate:


76 damage on average per swing:
50strength: 20 mod
barbarian power attack 2: 2
orcish power attack 3: 3
power attack: 5
vicious frenzy: 2d6: 7
holy d26: 7
greater bane: 3d6+4 = 14.5
+5 silver dwarven waraxe = 1d10+5 = 10.5
12 bard warchanter: 7

86.33hits per minute * 1.15 haste *1.05 doublestrike = 104.24 hits per minute

104.24*76/60 = 132 dps
3 out of 4 attacks have glancing blows for 50% damage of base damage, and 8% to apply effects.
out of 104.24(*0.75) = 78.18 glancing blows / minute for each hitting 21 points on average /60 = 27.4 dps
out of 78.18(*0.08) = 6.25 attacks have effects for 28.5 /60 = roughly a sad 3dps

about a 162.4 dps.(+25% hate = 203 dps)
if intimidated for 10 seconds out of a 16 hate generated is raised to (162.4 dps * 2.25 = ) 365± aceptable, but still abit low.

feats:
1:weapon focusrequired by warchanter)
3ast life feat barbarian(count as toughness)
6ower attack
9:two handed fighting
12imp)two handed fighting
15grt)two handed fighting
18:improved critical
fighter1:shield mastery
fighter2:improved shield mastery

cleave is needed for frenzy barb1, might go for 16/2/2 then. needs more feats.
would like to get improved shield bash for 20% off hand shield hits, or is the feat still broken?
extent would be nice, but since ill be raged.. well.. yeah.

509 hp(25% damage reduction from improved shield mastery, so roughly can take 640 damage before falling)
6barb: 72
2 fighter: 20
12 bard: 72
con: 220
greensteel: 45
dragonic feat: 10
barbarian 2: 20
warchanter2 : 10
past life feat barb: 20
orc toughness2 : 20

DR5/- from warchanter
(20 divine power / 2) + 2 + 7 = DR 19, cant be right. but ok. can remember by cleric hitting 27 ill search that up tommorow.

tanking wont be an option untill 80%± healing amp and +50% decent hate generation gear.

any suggestions / tips? ill be tring tommorow.

[Gorbadoc]

just getting some ideas(at 5 am morning still gaming) for my next build and i thought id be a good idea to write it down somewhere before i forget, not going into detail since it wont be needed.
Its just a leveling build to get through

[wall of text]

any suggestions / tips? ill be tring tommorow.

I'm a bit fuzzy on what you want. You say this post is a reminder to yourself-- are the rest of us not meant to read it?

Or, if we are meant to read it, could you clean it up a bit? You ramble a bit, and I'm not sure which details you want comments on.

[Tsuarok]

I'm a bit fuzzy on what you want. You say this post is a reminder to yourself-- are the rest of us not meant to read it?

Or, if we are meant to read it, could you clean it up a bit? You ramble a bit, and I'm not sure which details you want comments on.

He wrote it at 5am... what he wants is to go to bed.



Goodnight

[erikbozelie]

I'm a bit fuzzy on what you want. You say this post is a reminder to yourself-- are the rest of us not meant to read it?

Or, if we are meant to read it, could you clean it up a bit? You ramble a bit, and I'm not sure which details you want comments on.

what Tsuarok wrote, was kinda sleepy. dont you sometimes have a awesome idea when your in bed, but next day you cant remember what that idea was?

anyway, i also wrote it down to get some comments / advice on the build before i tred into it.
just grinding out past lives.

[Mackem]

just grinding out past lives.

Both of the splits you mention are workable and the only difference is that with 6 barb you'll have FB1 (rather short rages and not many) so you'll likely be using it in heavy combat only.

I've capped a 16/2/2 myself yesterday (fighter / rogue for a situational trap EXP) and it was reasonably fast to get from 1 to 20.

[erikbozelie]

went for 12/6/2 path. and it works great. can really chop down masses with a level 16 elemental greataxe of fire at level 14.

right now hes at 17 and rocking with a 48 strength.
i dropped the shield idea because more damage = more exp speed . his tanking abilities did not really shine at this moment that much anyway.

ill probably TR him again at the end of the week.

paly, ranger, monk or roque. which one would you do first?

edit: better question, in which order would you do them? and why?

[wax_on_wax_off]

went for 12/6/2 path. and it works great. can really chop down masses with a level 16 elemental greataxe of fire at level 14.

right now hes at 17 and rocking with a 48 strength.
i dropped the shield idea because more damage = more exp speed . his tanking abilities did not really shine at this moment that much anyway.

ill probably TR him again at the end of the week.

paly, ranger, monk or roque. which one would you do first?

edit: better question, in which order would you do them? and why?

Paladin first, always, 5% heal amp and access to +3 att/dam buff is just too good. May as well splash arti for UMD/extend spell to push it out to 15 minutes worth (shrining takes too long).

[erikbozelie]

Paladin first, always, 5% heal amp and access to +3 att/dam buff is just too good. May as well splash arti for UMD/extend spell to push it out to 15 minutes worth (shrining takes too long).

great advice. paladin it is.

still have 3 levels left to grind, about 5 days for me taking it easy. gives me some time to think of a build

[erikbozelie]

just capped, good times good times

+50 to hit, 1d12+75 damage with a elemental greataxe of fire(16 t3).
i like it allot better then my barb life.

id suggest it to anyone willing to roll a bardbarian. 12/6/2 was the way to go, since it opened up more rage abilities off the orc.

60 strength is without madstone(+4), or ofc frenzy(+8)
600 hp without greensteel.

my only mistake i made at creation is that i did not made him green.