MyDDO

[maha0201]

Clearly A well-geared toon = someone that mayed good choices does is not?
Clearly a toon that is wearing multiple items that dont stack are making bad choices does it not?

If your doing someting that is difficult and you want to screen players to improve your chances of completing and are given a choice of players that are

A. Well-geared toons that has no heavy fort or con 6 item but is wearing +15 haggle helm and +6 chr item on non chr based build. splashed his Cleric with 2 lvl of monk
B. toons that wearing multiple items that dont stack no heavy fort and no haggle item on and splashed his clr with 3 lvls of sor

This is only information you have and your time is limited and you want to complete a difficult task.

Which one is the brains and which one is the brawns?

I consider mine barbarian well geared, tho i have 3 x +6 sta on his slots, and i tend to swap mine fort item with treath reduction ( if im not tanking )

More A or B type

OT:

I use myddo only if i need to fill crucial spot in raids i want to complete on diff higher than normal...
As for lvling part IP BYOH and ZERG stand for them self

Coincidentally, a quick MyDDO shows that you don't even play on Thelanis! (Image subjected to inaccuracy as MyDDO tends to be)

You realy have much time, think you have even more time than few particular people from mine guild

[ariel7]

i can give you the exact number you are looking for *does jedi hand trick*, for the price of 3 frds.

+1

[MysticElaine]

Coincidentally, a quick MyDDO shows that you don't even play on Thelanis! (Image subjected to inaccuracy as MyDDO tends to be)

LOL, I DO play on Thelanis, I just made those toons non public after that happened so that I can't be turned down based on what I am wearing at the time. If people are unsure of who I am, they can ask me questions or choose whether or not to take a risk on me at all. I don't play on those other servers anymore.

[Purgatory]

I would love to have some MyDDO me. It hasnt updated in over a year.
It is totally unreliable.
Example : My level 5 Human Cleric shows up as http://my.ddo.com/character/argonnessen/jemeneye/ (Halfling 3 ROG/1 FIG) which is so far from the truth it's just funny. She is on her second life after being a H-Elf Cleric.
There is also multiple copies of the same character on the same server.

Manadoll, who I was just using not 1 hour ago has been archived. http://my.ddo.com/character/argonnessen/manadoll/
I cant be bothered to see what else MyDDO has got wrong.
My view is they should fix it or scrap it.

Its completly reliable. IF you notice MYDDO shows that date it was last updated for your toon which was over year ago.

Its clearly not perfect but when it not working perfectly it reliablly tells you that its not working perfectly.

its updateing alot more then its not and when its not you can see last update date. I call that reliable.

[WruntJunior]

Its completly reliable. IF you notice MYDDO shows that date it was last updated for your toon which was over year ago.

Its clearly not perfect but when it not working perfectly it reliablly tells you that its not working perfectly.

its updateing alot more then its not and when its not you can see last update date. I call that reliable.

I agree with this...someone who knows how to use MyDDO can tell how accurate the information is, roughly, and it shows basic things about gearing.

That said, I only MyDDO two types of people - people who I've already seen are bad, to see if their gear contributes...and people I'm not sure of, generally from guilds I really don't trust, for difficult raids. MyDDOing to fill a leveling group....that's where the stupidity is.

[Judo]

I agree with this...someone who knows how to use MyDDO can tell how accurate the information is, roughly, and it shows basic things about gearing.

That said, I only MyDDO two types of people - people who I've already seen are bad, to see if their gear contributes...and people I'm not sure of, generally from guilds I really don't trust, for difficult raids. MyDDOing to fill a leveling group....that's where the stupidity is.

/myddo wrunt

[MartinusWyllt]

I only myddo anyone if their hp or sp look strange and if just waiting around for people to get there. I like seeing whether or not that con-dumped drow is going to survive rather than decline them....unless the raid is particularly hard and they're going to be in a key role.

[varusso]

Its completly reliable. IF you notice MYDDO shows that date it was last updated for your toon which was over year ago.

Its clearly not perfect but when it not working perfectly it reliablly tells you that its not working perfectly.

its updateing alot more then its not and when its not you can see last update date. I call that reliable.

A bus is scheduled to run past my house every 30 mins. I havent seen a bus in over a year. However, there is a note tacked up on the bus stop sign that says the bus is under maintenance. I call that reliable bus service. When my boss asks why I am never at work, I say it is because my bus service is so reliable.

Really?

MyDDO is ****, and the people who rely on it, claiming it works because they "know how to use it: are delusional. It is every bit as likely to give bad info as it is to give good info. If you feel the need to "investigate" a potential group member, then just do everyone a favor and hit decline and wait for your perfect party of friends/guildies to come online. Seriously.

They need to either fix it or get rid of it. Personally, I am for getting rid of it, because if it ever actually DID work reliably it would only cause more PUG drama. In THEORY it would help to craft better groups, but in reality it would be just like the HP/SP visibility -- just one more way for players to shun one another based on incomplete info and bad assumptions.

[Purgatory]

A bus is scheduled to run past my house every 30 mins. I havent seen a bus in over a year. However, there is a note tacked up on the bus stop sign that says the bus is under maintenance. I call that reliable bus service. When my boss asks why I am never at work, I say it is because my bus service is so reliable.

Really?

ya that exactly what is going on here....

More like A bus is scheduled to run past your house every 30 min. you havent seen a bus for over a year and its also posted that this route hasnt been ran for over a year and is currently not option. If your boss has to ask why you are never at work a year later then I want a job like that where i can make stupid excuses why I havent worked for a year and still have a job my boss calls me up about....

Realy???

no seriously REALY!!!!






I mean seriously REALY!!!!!!

If you cant tell by now that bus is not going to show after a year and still using that excuse why ur not at work you have more problems to worry about then myDDO not working perfectly.

We can reliably say you dont have a job and dont know how to use a tool and understand its limitations.

[WruntJunior]

/myddo wrunt

Please do...makes bragging easier when I don't have to say anything. :P

(Not that I quite have enough to brag about at the moment, though.)

[yawumpus]

Yeah, I love how people freak out because you're not wearing a Minos but just a puny Cove Hat ( or any other hat ).

If you really want Heavy Fort in the head, I recomend Cove Hats, they are more good looking that a Minos... but it will still make people freak out, because they won't see a Minos.

The fact is that you can have heavy fort in a lot of slots ( Armor, Ring, Belt are easy to get, and if you have epic items you can slot it somewhere, like in an Epic Cove Trinket...) and Minos is not mandatory, it's just one of the reliable source of heavy fort item. ( you can't call Cove reliable, as you have to be there when it's on to make a Heavy Fort Hat and you can't call random loot reliable )

Even worse is when the cove hat is archmagi (especially on a paladin or ranger who will only need it to throw out buffs) or +15 haggle (I never saw +15 haggle drop back when the cove first opened). Expect the player to be wearing minos during the quest.

I've seen an entire forum thread devoted to bashing a player for daring replace a fortification item before logging. If you don't understand that my.ddo takes a snapshot of the player *while not questing*, you will likely misuse this tool.

- hopefully Flavilandile's gripe will go away after the cove re-opens. Arcane casters can trivially get heavy fort on robes, thus leaving the head open for either archmagi/superior false life and +15 concentration. Toughness becomes a little harder to slot (thrakash bracelet competes with school class boosts) until you get epic gear, but the superior false life hat equals it anyway.

[varusso]

ya that exactly what is going on here....

More like A bus is scheduled to run past your house every 30 min. you havent seen a bus for over a year and its also posted that this route hasnt been ran for over a year and is currently not option. If your boss has to ask why you are never at work a year later then I want a job like that where i can make stupid excuses why I havent worked for a year and still have a job my boss calls me up about....

Realy???

no seriously REALY!!!!






I mean seriously REALY!!!!!!

If you cant tell by now that bus is not going to show after a year and still using that excuse why ur not at work you have more problems to worry about then myDDO not working perfectly.

We can reliably say you dont have a job and dont know how to use a tool and understand its limitations.

WOW that went completely over your head, didnt it?

The point is that what you described is NOT the definition of "reliable". The intention was to illustrate the absurdity of your statement, but apparently that was also lost on you.

[whitehawk74]

...Its clearly not perfect but when it not working perfectly it reliablly tells you that its not working perfectly.

its updateing alot more then its not and when its not you can see last update date. I call that reliable.

well, yes, true, in a pretzel logic kind of way.
it's right in telling me that it's wrong, which is better than just being wrong, but not as good as actually being right.

[DanteEnFuego]

I think I am going to start stripping naked before I log out from now on...after finishing a lvl 1 Korthos quest on a capped toon. Maybe I'll leave on Boots of the Innocent only, just for the irony... Hmmm..

That said, I usually only check if I am on with healing responsibilities and I see someone routinely gettin pwned... I have actually helped some newer toons by pointing out gear flaws and have given away items worthless to me that have improved their set ups.

Okay, back to streaking...

[Flavilandile]

- hopefully Flavilandile's gripe will go away after the cove re-opens. Arcane casters can trivially get heavy fort on robes, thus leaving the head open for either archmagi/superior false life and +15 concentration. Toughness becomes a little harder to slot (thrakash bracelet competes with school class boosts) until you get epic gear, but the superior false life hat equals it anyway.

I don't have any gripe... except for those that expect to see a Minos and reject people from a pug because they don't see it in MyDDO.

I have Heavy fort usually on armor or on a ring or on a belt, I even have in on a trinket on my main Rogue. It is just not on a Minos.

And yes Cove Hats are great to put things that are not usually found in that slot, especially when you have it free because you're not wearing a Minos. *grins*

[varusso]

I think I am going to start stripping naked before I log out from now on...after finishing a lvl 1 Korthos quest on a capped toon. Maybe I'll leave on Boots of the Innocent only, just for the irony... Hmmm..

That said, I usually only check if I am on with healing responsibilities and I see someone routinely gettin pwned... I have actually helped some newer toons by pointing out gear flaws and have given away items worthless to me that have improved their set ups.

Okay, back to streaking...

^^ See now THIS is how MyDDO could theoretically be helpful -- offering advice to folks who need it (and want it):

"Hey guys, I am getting stomped in here. What am I doing wrong?"
"Well, lets take a look at your toon on MyDDO real quick and see what you have going on. Ahhh....I see you have no heavy fort. You can get a Minos out of the Necro pack if you have it; it comes with heavy fort AND 20 extra HP. Hmmm you also put points into DEX, but as a caster you really dont need it (ignore what the character creation tips tell you). You would have been better off taking those extra points and putting them into your CON or your casting stat...."

Unfortunately, this is what ACTUALLY happens most of the time:
*Player clicks LFM, PL looks at MyDDO*
"ZOMG this noobtard doesnt even have a piece of greensteel yet? NO WAY I am letting him heal a normal shroud run in MY group!"
*denied*

or

*player getting beat up alot, Mr. Super-uber checks MyDDO*
"WOW, dude you just SUCK! You are wearing a +4 stat item at level 13? Why dont you have all +6's yet?!? Why did you start with 14 CON? You should have started with 18, so you could have more HP. Silly Noobs, DDO is for LEETS!"

MyDDO is flawed, and so is its application by the majority of players. Especially those that think it is actually helpful in determining the competency of the player behind the keyboard. Just because the toon doesnt have all the bells and whistles equipped when they log off (which is when MyDDO takes its snapshot), that doesnt mean that they (A) Dont have the gear or (B) Arent working on getting it, And just because someone HAS the gear, it doesnt mean they are at all competent in actually playing their toon -- just like TR wings.

[grayham]

I would never accept or decline anyone on the basis of Myddo. I'll list why....

1, The one downside to very helpful and generous guilds we have on this server is that gear doth not a great player make. "Here new guild member, take all the seals and shards we don't need!". I'm not saying this happens all the time, but still...

2, The flip side being that some very capable players have to make do with more basic gear.

3, There is a lot of legacy/outdated/incorrect thinking about what actually constitutes good gear. Throw in certain prejudices around "welfare epics" and you have a really muddled view. Rock boots, frozen tunic, Deneith heavy chain are all hugely underrated for instance.

4, Myddo is regularly out of date.

Having said all that, I am nosy so will check people out, but only after having accepted them into the LFM and even then I'm not judging, just being nosy.

[KingofDiamondz]

Unfortunately, this is what ACTUALLY happens most of the time:
*Player clicks LFM, PL looks at MyDDO*
"ZOMG this noobtard doesnt even have a piece of greensteel yet? NO WAY I am letting him heal a normal shroud run in MY group!"
*denied*

or

*player getting beat up alot, Mr. Super-uber checks MyDDO*
"WOW, dude you just SUCK! You are wearing a +4 stat item at level 13? Why dont you have all +6's yet?!? Why did you start with 14 CON? You should have started with 18, so you could have more HP. Silly Noobs, DDO is for LEETS!"

I think you over exaggerate this. You say it like this happens to you all the time. I dont know what server your on but this is not what happens "most of the time" on Thelanis. We have a ton of awesome, kind, veteran players over this entire game and as long as you got enough brains to show respect and explain yourself they are more then willing to give it back. Dont speak for most of the community please.

[varusso]

I think you over exaggerate this. You say it like this happens to you all the time. I dont know what server your on but this is not what happens "most of the time" on Thelanis. We have a ton of awesome, kind, veteran players over this entire game and as long as you got enough brains to show respect and explain yourself they are more then willing to give it back. Dont speak for most of the community please.

Actually, it never happens to me. At least it hasnt in over a year.
(1) My characters are hidden. If you are this type of player, i WANT you to decline me.
(2) I avoid LFMs by players that I know are this ridiculous.
(3) Most of my toons do not properly update anyway.
(4) Even if 1-3 werent the case, I have most of the gear that most of these basket-cases are looking for anyway.

I have, however run into it with OTHER people, and it happens on all servers; dont kid yourself (yes I have played on all servers). The main reason why it isnt as prevalent as it used to be isnt because the community is "better" but because the tool is worse, less reliable, than it used to be, so those folks now use other means of filtering their LFMs (such as requiring links of gear and min HP, send tells to "prove" you are capable of doing the quest, etc.). Also, alot of the players that DO behave in this manner have become more insular and only run with players they have already added to their "pool" (guilds, friends, folks they have run with multiple times before, etc).

BTW: You do not speak for the community either -- and I never claimed to. Just because YOU arent seeing it does not mean it is not happening -- and often.

[Vikkus]

When it works it is a handy tool. Some of my characters update every day. Some never update at all and stay still showing low level.

I would not use it as a determining factor for group selection.