A review of my build, please!

[WeberCC]

Hello!

Well, based on the threads, voodoogroves posted links to.. I've decided on trying a 11 Ranger / 9 Rogue build with my Warforged still focusing on using bows.

This build will give a lot of useful feats (especially Improved Precise Shot), which can make it alot easier to kill the magic users (who can be a pain, due to my low will saves) and groups of weaker monsters.

My criteria for the build is as following:

- 28 points, since i don't have access to 32 points.
- Warforged, mainly because it will be my first time to play this race.
- PrE: Deedwood Sniper I is chosen for its increase in dmg/range with the feat Point Blank Shot
- PrE: Rogue Mechanic I is chosen for its increase in the chance for getting parts from traps and for its increase in DC for the traps i'll make myself with the skill Repair Construct as a small "health" bonus.
- Bows, so not to waste a few feats and for flavor.


This is the build i'm using:

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Rookie 2.0
Level 20 True Neutral Warforged Male
(9 Rogue \ 11 Ranger) 
Hit Points: 326
Spell Points: 125 
BAB: 17\17\22\27\27
Fortitude: 14
Reflex: 18
Will: 6

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(28 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             14                    14
Dexterity            14                    20
Constitution         16                    18
Intelligence         14                    14
Wisdom               10                    10
Charisma              6                     6

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               6                    31
Bluff                -2                    -2
Concentration         3                     4
Diplomacy             2                    21
Disable Device        6                    30
Haggle                2                     9
Heal                  0                     0
Hide                  2                    18
Intimidate           -2                    -2
Jump                  6                    12
Listen                0                     0
Move Silently         5                    18
Open Lock             6                    32
Perform              n/a                   n/a
Repair                2                     4
Search                6                    19
Spot                  4                    15
Swim                  2                     2
Tumble                3                     6
Use Magic Device      2                    21

Level 1 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+4)
Skill: Diplomacy (+4)
Skill: Disable Device (+4)
Skill: Haggle (+4)
Skill: Jump (+4)
Skill: Move Silently (+3)
Skill: Open Lock (+4)
Skill: Search (+4)
Skill: Spot (+4)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+4)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Feat: (Automatic) Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Composite Plating
Feat: (Automatic) Heroic Durability
Feat: (Automatic) Light Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Light Fortification
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Rapier
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Shortsword
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Shortbow
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Sneak
Feat: (Automatic) Sneak Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Trapfinding
Feat: (Automatic) Warforged Immunities


Level 2 (Ranger)
Skill: Hide (+4)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Monstrous Humanoid
Feat: (Automatic) Bow Strength
Feat: (Automatic) Defensive Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency (ALL)
Feat: (Automatic) Shield Proficiency (General)
Feat: (Automatic) Sunder
Feat: (Automatic) Trip
Feat: (Automatic) Wild Empathy


Level 3 (Ranger)
Skill: Hide (+2)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+2)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Point Blank Shot
Feat: (Automatic) Rapid Shot
Feat: (Automatic) Two Weapon Fighting


Level 4 (Ranger)
Ability Raise: DEX
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1.5)
Feat: (Automatic) Diehard


Level 5 (Ranger)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1.5)
Spell (1): Camouflage
Spell (1): Jump
Spell (1): Longstrider
Spell (1): Merfolk's Blessing
Spell (1): Ram's Might
Spell (1): Resist Energy
Spell (1): Summon Nature's Ally I
Spell (1): Tumble


Level 6 (Ranger)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1.5)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Giant
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Ranged Weapons


Level 7 (Ranger)
Skill: Diplomacy (+0.5)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Manyshot
Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Rogue Skill Boost I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Attack I
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage I
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage II
Enhancement: Ranger Deepwood Sniper I
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I
Enhancement: Improved Disable Device I
Enhancement: Improved Hide I
Enhancement: Improved Hide II
Enhancement: Improved Move Silently I
Enhancement: Improved Move Silently II
Enhancement: Improved Open Lock I
Enhancement: Improved Spot I
Enhancement: Improved Spot II
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity I
Enhancement: Rogue Improved Trap Sense I
Enhancement: Warforged Constitution I


Level 8 (Rogue)
Ability Raise: DEX
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+3)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+3)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Evasion
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy I
Enhancement: Rogue Wand and Scroll Mastery I


Level 9 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+3)
Skill: Diplomacy (+2)
Skill: Disable Device (+2)
Skill: Open Lock (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Trap Sense
Enhancement: Warforged Constitution II


Level 10 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+2)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+3)
Skill: Open Lock (+3)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Trapmaking
Feat: (Automatic) Uncanny Dodge
Enhancement: Rogue Skill Boost II
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training II
Enhancement: Improved Disable Device II
Enhancement: Improved Open Lock II


Level 11 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+4)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+2)
Skill: Open Lock (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost II


Level 12 (Rogue)
Ability Raise: DEX
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+5)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Ranged Weapons
Enhancement: Rogue Fire Trap Lore I
Enhancement: Rogue Mechanic I
Enhancement: Warforged Power Attack I


Level 13 (Ranger)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Improved Wild Empathy
Enhancement: Iron Companion
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy II


Level 14 (Ranger)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (2): Barkskin
Spell (2): Bear's Endurance
Spell (2): Cat's Grace
Spell (2): Cure Light Wounds
Spell (2): Hold Animal
Spell (2): Mass Camouflage
Spell (2): Owl's Wisdom
Spell (2): Protection From Energy
Spell (2): Snare
Spell (2): Spike Growth
Spell (2): Summon Nature's Ally II
Enhancement: Racial Toughness III


Level 15 (Ranger)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Augment Summoning
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage III
Enhancement: Warforged Power Attack II


Level 16 (Ranger)
Ability Raise: DEX
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider
Enhancement: Racial Toughness IV


Level 17 (Ranger)
Skill: Diplomacy (+0.5)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Improved Precise Shot
Feat: (Automatic) Precise Shot
Spell (3): Cure Moderate Wounds
Spell (3): Neutralize Poison
Spell (3): Remove Disease
Spell (3): Summon Nature's Ally III
Spell (3): Wild Instincts
Enhancement: Warforged Power Attack III


Level 18 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+6)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost III


Level 19 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+3)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+3)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Improved Uncanny Dodge
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Resistance I
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Resistance II
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training III


Level 20 (Rogue)
Ability Raise: DEX
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+5)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Improved Balance I
Enhancement: Improved Balance II
Enhancement: Improved Balance III
Enhancement: Improved Disable Device III

This is the build, that i began with:

Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 03.12.01
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Rookie 
Level 20 True Neutral Warforged Male
(1 Fighter \ 13 Rogue \ 6 Ranger) 
Hit Points: 330
Spell Points: 50 
BAB: 16\16\21\26\26
Fortitude: 15
Reflex: 15
Will: 6

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(28 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             14                    19
Dexterity            14                    14
Constitution         16                    18
Intelligence         14                    14
Wisdom               10                    10
Charisma              6                     6

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               6                    24
Bluff                -2                    -2
Concentration         3                     4
Diplomacy             2                    21
Disable Device        6                    31
Haggle                2                    20
Heal                  0                     0
Hide                  2                    15
Intimidate           -2                    -2
Jump                  6                    14
Listen                0                     0
Move Silently         5                    21
Open Lock             6                    31
Perform              n/a                   n/a
Repair                2                     6
Search                6                    28
Spot                  4                    17
Swim                  2                     4
Tumble                3                     3
Use Magic Device      2                    21

Level 1 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+4)
Skill: Diplomacy (+4)
Skill: Disable Device (+4)
Skill: Haggle (+4)
Skill: Jump (+4)
Skill: Move Silently (+3)
Skill: Open Lock (+4)
Skill: Search (+4)
Skill: Spot (+4)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+4)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Feat: (Automatic) Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Composite Plating
Feat: (Automatic) Heroic Durability
Feat: (Automatic) Light Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Light Fortification
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Rapier
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Shortsword
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Shortbow
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Sneak
Feat: (Automatic) Sneak Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Trapfinding
Feat: (Automatic) Warforged Immunities
Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Rogue Skill Boost I
Enhancement: Improved Disable Device I
Enhancement: Rogue Improved Trap Sense I


Level 2 (Ranger)
Skill: Hide (+5)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+2)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider
Feat: (Automatic) Bow Strength
Feat: (Automatic) Defensive Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency (ALL)
Feat: (Automatic) Shield Proficiency (General)
Feat: (Automatic) Sunder
Feat: (Automatic) Trip
Feat: (Automatic) Wild Empathy
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage I
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Defense I
Enhancement: Improved Open Lock I
Enhancement: Improved Spot I


Level 3 (Ranger)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Search (+2)
Skill: Spot (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Point Blank Shot
Feat: (Automatic) Rapid Shot
Feat: (Automatic) Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Resistance I
Enhancement: Improved Hide I
Enhancement: Improved Move Silently I


Level 4 (Ranger)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1.5)
Feat: (Automatic) Diehard
Enhancement: Warforged Constitution I


Level 5 (Ranger)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1.5)
Enhancement: Improved Hide II
Enhancement: Improved Move Silently II
Enhancement: Improved Spot II


Level 6 (Ranger)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1.5)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Lawful Outsider
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Ranged Weapons
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage II


Level 7 (Ranger)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Manyshot
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Attack I
Enhancement: Ranger Deepwood Sniper I


Level 8 (Rogue)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+3)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Evasion
Enhancement: Rogue Wand and Scroll Mastery I
Enhancement: Warforged Constitution II


Level 9 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+3)
Skill: Disable Device (+3)
Skill: Open Lock (+3)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Trap Sense
Enhancement: Rogue Fire Trap Lore I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness III


Level 10 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+2)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+3)
Skill: Open Lock (+3)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Trapmaking
Feat: (Automatic) Uncanny Dodge
Enhancement: Rogue Skill Boost II
Enhancement: Improved Disable Device II
Enhancement: Improved Open Lock II


Level 11 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+3)
Skill: Diplomacy (+4)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost II
Enhancement: Rogue Improved Trap Sense II


Level 12 (Rogue)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+2)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+5)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Ranged Weapons
Enhancement: Rogue Mechanic I


Level 13 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+6)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Iron Companion
Enhancement: Steel Companion


Level 14 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+5)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Improved Uncanny Dodge
Enhancement: Mithral Companion
Enhancement: Improved Disable Device III
Enhancement: Improved Open Lock III


Level 15 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+3)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Augment Summoning
Enhancement: Racial Toughness IV


Level 16 (Rogue)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+4)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Slippery Mind
Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost III


Level 17 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+4)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Adamantine Companion


Level 18 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+3)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost IV
Enhancement: Rogue Mechanic II


Level 19 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+3)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Improved Evasion
Enhancement: Rogue Extra Action Boost I
Enhancement: Rogue Wand and Scroll Mastery II


Level 20 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Precise Shot
Feat: (Automatic) Heavy Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Medium Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Tower Shield Proficiency
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy I
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I
Enhancement: Warforged Power Attack I
Enhancement: Warforged Power Attack II

Thanks to voodoogroves for his imput. If there are others, who would like to help, you are all welcome...



...
WeberCC

[voodoogroves]

My opinion: I think you're on the cusp of something - but right now you're kinda in two worlds. You need to commit to bows or crossbows and build to do as best as you can with one of them. The build you're showing right now is kinda midling with either. Both have merits, and both styles have entered into the realm of mainstream viability. You can try to do well at each, but it isn't easy and will have a very tough road ahead.




I'd go with less WIS. You can get what you need to cast spells with items eventually. Extras into DEX if you want to get Precise Shot / Improved Precise Shot.

When the changes allowing for increased sneak range came out, there were a number of threads on the topic. Here are some (a few builds kinda hashed out as well)

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=314783
http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=308935
http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=317572

These are mostly focused on Crossbows, but I see you're looking at bows. Bows work too, but these days you're behind the curve with the AAs. The repeater will offer better consistent DPS output.

NOTE: Your self healing will be far better from UMDing scrolls and wands w/ your rogue skills than anything Mechanic can provide.

[WeberCC]

Updated, please see 1st post!