What will be the xp required to level to 20 when all is said and done

[AtomicMew]

Nope, as everyone I know who has TR'd says level 14 is the B level because level 12 has all of 9 quests and 2 raids (one is RI that no one does so lets not even count that one). Effectively you get stuck on 14. It just seems that 12-15, to me at least, is missing quests but that could be solved with a few new packs for the mid level ranges.

This is definitely not true. There is necro 2, sands, lordsmarch 1, lordsmarch 2, gianthold, orchard. All of these in the 12-15 range. There is so much XP there, it's ridiculous. There is no reason you can't be 17 by the time you hit vale.

[Faent]

If you have put the work into something only to see the grind reduced by 60 or 70% it becomes a question of why do it. Why trailblaze when you can just wait until you get it easy. Why not move onto another game where you can trailblaze and not see your efforts trivialized. I have done many trs and plan to do several more, but I sympathize with those that put the work in only to see their efforts trivialized. If trailblazing keeps getting trivialized in one form or another I would move on to something else if I were trailblazer.

Oh come off it. See if this sounds silly to you: If you put the work in to buy something only to see the price reduced (later) by 60-70%, then why'd you buy it? That should sound pretty silly to you.

Worse, you should have known the price would be reduced, so what are you complaining about? You got your Benz first. And you're ahead of the curve. That should be enough to satisfy you. If it isn't, you're not a "trailblazer". You're an elitist who thinks nobody else should have the same Benz you do unless they pay as much for it as you paid to have one of the first ones. Frankly, that's nuts. Welcome to the real world.

[Standal]

Can you provide a link to post supporting this?

I can not provide evidence that this is true or false. On the forums we do this all the time though we forecast or predict what is a likely future or change that could occur. The best time to actually post about something is well before it occurs so meaningful input can be provided at times in the developmental process where the devs and producers are receptive to input. What happens in the forums frequently is input via the forums is provided too late in the process to make any meaningful difference; hence, I am trying to provide meaningful input at a time when hopefully the devs and producers are receptive to that input. I do not want to hurt the trailblazers anymore then is necessary is the crux of my argument.

There have been several content updates over the period in question. It's not uncommon for XP and/or loot boost right after a content update. I wouldn't read too much into this.

Tomes of learning are a different beast. There have been many complaints about the TR grind and the repetition required for 3rd life and beyond. As a store item, the tomes let those people put their money where their mouth is. Since a lot of the trailblazers are in the group complaining about the brutal TR grind, I don't think the tomes will bother them.

[FrancisP.Fancypants]

I am enjoying the tomes this TR....but it should become even more easy then it is in the current state. COmpletionist or multiple lives should take awhile.

Should they take as long as they do? I watched a friend spend the better part of a year getting completionist, and this was while she was unemployed and played 12 hours a day. It's not something I think most players even consider. And remember, not everyone will have gotten the really shiny expansion option. I went for the 30 dollar one, so 14 of my toons per server won't be getting those tome bonuses.

And if 20-25 is supposed to take as long as 1-20, then I think we're looking at the new endgame- one that might be much harder on single-life toons. If that's the case, then making TR toons easier seems like a good idea.

[parvo]

XP to 20 is pathetically low as is. Current system ensures the worst players can easily cap. I hope XP to 25 is brutal, but Turb won't do that. It'll be all candy canes and half elves holding hands at 25 within a few months of launch. There is nothing in the "normal" game worth doing.

[Jsbeer]

XP to 20 is pathetically low as is. Current system ensures the worst players can easily cap. I hope XP to 25 is brutal, but Turb won't do that. It'll be all candy canes and half elves holding hands at 25 within a few months of launch. There is nothing in the "normal" game worth doing.

I was going to give this a 10/10 for a funny troll attempt but then I saw the sig:

www.mortalvoyage.com[/url]

so now I am actually worried........