Colorful crash of entire machine with Nvidia Quadro FX 3800 when casting

[Seikojin]

Hi all,

I had this issue before, posted about it, can't find it, so I am re-creating with updates.

When casting protection from elements (100% repro, other spells and groups casting cause it too), the game can crash the entire machine with a screen covered in a rainbow of colors.

When I move the camera back, it doesn't repro 100% of the time with the same spell, but it will crash 100% of the time when close up (just behind the character), or when in a raid when other players are spamming buffs.

Looks like an obvious shader issue.

Which options control the spell effects shaders? This would help me isolate the issue.

Below is relevant dxdiag info on the system, which is no longer using engineering sample parts:

Operating System: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Hewlett-Packard
System Model: HP xw6600 Workstation
BIOS: Default System BIOS
Processor: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU           E5430  @ 2.66GHz (8 CPUs), ~2.7GHz
Memory: 8192MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 8192MB RAM
Page File: 4307MB used, 12073MB available
Windows Dir: C:\Windows
DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
User DPI Setting: Using System DPI
System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
DxDiag Version: 6.01.7601.17514 64bit Unicode

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Display Devices
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Card name: NVIDIA Quadro FX 3800
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: Quadro FX 3800
DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_05FF&SUBSYS_066110DE&REV_A1
Display Memory: 485 MB
Dedicated Memory: 997 MB
Shared Memory: 3583 MB
Current Mode: 1920 x 1200 (32 bit) (59Hz)
Monitor Name: HP LP2465 LCD Monitor
Monitor Model: HP LP2465
Monitor Id: HWP2676
Native Mode: 1920 x 1200(p) (59.950Hz)
Output Type: DVI
Driver Name: nvd3dumx.dll,nvwgf2umx.dll,nvwgf2umx.dll,nvd3dum,nvwgf2um,nvwgf2um
Driver File Version: 8.17.0012.9573 (English)
Driver Version: 8.17.12.9573
DDI Version: 10
Driver Model: WDDM 1.1
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 2/9/2012 22:43:00, 17642816 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: Yes

And some userpreference info:

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SyncToRefresh=True
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[Troubleshooting]
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[Dulcimerist]

Which options control the spell effects shaders? This would help me isolate the issue.

I believe the spell effects shaders are the video post-processing effects, so you could adjust or turn off some of those. I don't recall an actual "particle effects" setting in there.

Disabling Anisotropic Filtering (or turning it to as low as possible) might also help. I see that Antialiasing is already disabled, otherwise I would've suggested disabling that as well.

Have you tried running in DirectX9 mode?

[Seikojin]

I believe the spell effects shaders are the video post-processing effects, so you could adjust or turn off some of those. I don't recall an actual "particle effects" setting in there.

Disabling Anisotropic Filtering (or turning it to as low as possible) might also help. I see that Antialiasing is already disabled, otherwise I would've suggested disabling that as well.

Have you tried running in DirectX9 mode?

I was thinking of trying dx 9 mode, but thought it may take away a ton of the shiney . But I will give those a whirl and report back. Thanks.

Disabling post processing effects seems to have stopped it. I couldn't cast fast enough buffs in close or far to make it crash. I will update after trying a heavier shader situation.

Thanks. Now hopefully this can be fixed so I can have those on.

[Seikojin]

An Update:
I ran with the Effects disabled until I cast Fireshield (ice version). Same crash. When I went back in, I switched it to dx9 and it just crashed while running through Gianthold, no spells.

Guess it is time to file a bug and call it sad.

[Missing_Minds]

Honestly, that sounds like a dying graphics card or time for a re install due to file corruption.

[Dulcimerist]

I agree with Missing. The only time I've ever had a screenful of a rainbow of colors has been when either my graphics card was crashing, or when I was overclocking the video RAM so high that it would overheat.

[Seikojin]

The same issue happens onf 5 different quadro fx 3800's. I got them for me and my kids' machines and because the crashes in ddo no matter what driver we used, I had to purchase replacements for all of us. So I highly doubt all 5 cards have been dying for the last three years.

[Mirthgar]

The same issue happens onf 5 different quadro fx 3800's. I got them for me and my kids' machines and because the crashes in ddo no matter what driver we used, I had to purchase replacements for all of us. So I highly doubt all 5 cards have been dying for the last three years.

Bear in mind that Quadro model cards aren't 3d gaming based models, they're designed as 2d, 3d modelling/video editing 'graphics workstation' cards so they don't have alot of the higher end 3d graphics support (e.g. shaders, high texel etc) that the Geforce line of cards have. They're designed more around stability in an editing/rendering situation rather than 'bleeding edge' 3d graphics rendering mainly.

This type of crashing definitely sounds like graphics related, they might be unable to support the games higher settings and shutting down.

I would definitely try disabling the lighting and shadows options under ADV Graphics and see what changes those have, post processing is one item that those model cards are not going to handle well in a 3d game but also anything that makes use of shaders and other options they don't support would certainly also contribute.

Posting the complete dxdiag file might help narrow down any other additional possibilities but based on the description it definitely centers around the cards ability to support the games features.

[Seikojin]

Bear in mind that Quadro model cards aren't 3d gaming based models, they're designed as 2d, 3d modelling/video editing 'graphics workstation' cards so they don't have alot of the higher end 3d graphics support (e.g. shaders, high texel etc) that the Geforce line of cards have. They're designed more around stability in an editing/rendering situation rather than 'bleeding edge' 3d graphics rendering mainly.

This type of crashing definitely sounds like graphics related, they might be unable to support the games higher settings and shutting down.

I would definitely try disabling the lighting and shadows options under ADV Graphics and see what changes those have, post processing is one item that those model cards are not going to handle well in a 3d game but also anything that makes use of shaders and other options they don't support would certainly also contribute.

Posting the complete dxdiag file might help narrow down any other additional possibilities but based on the description it definitely centers around the cards ability to support the games features.

I will give it a try and see what it offers. They did for a while have quadro drivers built around gaming instead of workstation/rendering.
Information on the card shows it should be able to handle shaders just fine:
http://www.nvidia.com/object/product...x_3800_us.html
http://www.nvidia.com/object/product...x_1800_us.html

I will get a full dxdiag on here when I get home. Not saying it isn't a graphic card issue, but the driver or the codepath for those shaders have to be looked at and addressed. I am using a quadro fx 1800 and it works fine, but just a bit slower in performance than the 3800.

Heading over to:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nvidia_Quadro
And you can see that an fx 1800 uses a G94 gpu core and the fx3800 uses a G200GL core. If you dig around in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NVIDIA_GeForce you can find which consumer cards were made from those cores.

[Missing_Minds]

The same issue happens onf 5 different quadro fx 3800's. I got them for me and my kids' machines and because the crashes in ddo no matter what driver we used, I had to purchase replacements for all of us. So I highly doubt all 5 cards have been dying for the last three years.

3 years... actually, depending on use, I'd believe it with nVidia. I'm not joking, and standing by what I stated currently.
That time frame is not a good one. There were die issues around then let alone they were trying to properly heat sink voltage regulators. My 8800 didn't last but maybe a year, and that was a die issue.
Wife's fan didn't last much longer, but I but I just replaced the whole heat sink unit and that continued its life until we got her a new one, just was a bit touchy now and then. I'm just glad we caught the fan issue before it was too cooked.

Now it could be a shader issue that you suspect, but if so that is really on nvidia's head and not Turbine any more given how they are used. Also I've seen several posts about nvidia's current drivers causing issues for people.

[AZgreentea]

Poking around the web for reviews and comments, I came up with a few things.

First its big on heat, which is always the bane of video cards.

Second, lots of people seem to have issues making it work reliably on Win 7. Several comments about driver crashes when in Win 7 64 bit. I even found a few comments that the drivers on the CD corrupted Win XP.

On the plus side, people who do video editing really seem to like it, though most found it expensive when they bought it in 2010.

[Seikojin]

3 years... actually, depending on use, I'd believe it with nVidia. I'm not joking, and standing by what I stated currently.
That time frame is not a good one. There were die issues around then let alone they were trying to properly heat sink voltage regulators. My 8800 didn't last but maybe a year, and that was a die issue.
Wife's fan didn't last much longer, but I but I just replaced the whole heat sink unit and that continued its life until we got her a new one, just was a bit touchy now and then. I'm just glad we caught the fan issue before it was too cooked.

Now it could be a shader issue that you suspect, but if so that is really on nvidia's head and not Turbine any more given how they are used. Also I've seen several posts about nvidia's current drivers causing issues for people.

For the workload I put on my machines and their parts, Nvidia is the only solution that can handle it. My pile of busted ATI's is quite larger than my pile of Nvidia's. I know about the die issue and some other issues with manufacturing in their hardware. Can't help what bad labor does.
I specifically picked the 18 and 3800 because they are known to be solid performers.

Ddo is the only product that has this happen. I don't know what calls are made with their shaders, so I can't compare other games to it.

Does anyone know of another game that uses the same kind of shader code as ddo? That would isolate it to a driver issue versus a code issue in the game.

[Seikojin]

Poking around the web for reviews and comments, I came up with a few things.

First its big on heat, which is always the bane of video cards.

Second, lots of people seem to have issues making it work reliably on Win 7. Several comments about driver crashes when in Win 7 64 bit. I even found a few comments that the drivers on the CD corrupted Win XP.

On the plus side, people who do video editing really seem to like it, though most found it expensive when they bought it in 2010.

Yeah, that is why the workstations are built the way they are. On top of that, I can repro the crash from a cold start.

It was an expensive card when it came out. Still is for the most part, lol.

[Missing_Minds]

Yeah, that is why the workstations are built the way they are. On top of that, I can repro the crash from a cold start.

It was an expensive card when it came out. Still is for the most part, lol.

I could repo my crashes from a cold start as well even though everything else ran fine. Code hits hardware differently. I'm not saying you are wrong, but just asking you to not disregard it.

Honestly though, I do hope it is software and something can get fixed for it. Replacing hardware is normally painful to the wallet.

[Seikojin]

I could repo my crashes from a cold start as well even though everything else ran fine. Code hits hardware differently. I'm not saying you are wrong, but just asking you to not disregard it.

Honestly though, I do hope it is software and something can get fixed for it. Replacing hardware is normally painful to the wallet.

Oh, I hope it is fixed too. Either side. I wouldn't even mind if the driver had a patch to change the shader path to do a trick to allow it to work. The perf difference between the 1800 and the 3800 is staggering, so I would like to get some use out of them instead of spending money again on new hardware.

Would be different if they were under any kind of warrenty. But they aren't.

[Seikojin]

For the sake of information, here is the full dxdiag. I plan on getting a gtx 680 soon, so I won't hopefully have any issues with the game crashing.

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System Information
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Time of this report: 3/30/2012, 23:42:48
       Machine name: SEIKOJIN-PC
   Operating System: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_gdr.111118-2330)
           Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Hewlett-Packard
       System Model: HP xw6600 Workstation
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             Memory: 8192MB RAM
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DX Setup Parameters: Not found
   User DPI Setting: Using System DPI
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    DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
     DxDiag Version: 6.01.7601.17514 64bit Unicode
  DxDiag Previously: Crashed in system information (stage 4). Re-running DxDiag with "dontskip" command line parameter or choosing not to bypass information gathering when prompted might result in DxDiag successfully obtaining this information

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DxDiag Notes
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      Display Tab 1: No problems found.
        Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
          Input Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
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DirectDraw:  0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (retail)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail)
DirectPlay:  0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow:  0/6 (retail)

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                     {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(S342,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
                     {F9F19DA5-3B09-4B2F-9D89-C64753E3EAAB}: Format(In/Out)=(S342,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
                     {5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(S342,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
                     {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(S342,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
       D3D9 Overlay: Supported
            DXVA-HD: Supported
       DDraw Status: Enabled
         D3D Status: Enabled
         AGP Status: Enabled

-------------
Sound Devices
-------------
            Description: Speakers (High Definition Audio Device)
 Default Sound Playback: Yes
 Default Voice Playback: Yes
            Hardware ID: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0262&SUBSYS_103C0000&REV_1002
        Manufacturer ID: 1
             Product ID: 65535
                   Type: WDM
            Driver Name: HdAudio.sys
         Driver Version: 6.01.7601.17514 (English)
      Driver Attributes: Final Retail
            WHQL Logo'd: Yes
          Date and Size: 11/20/2010 03:44:23, 350208 bytes
            Other Files: 
        Driver Provider: Microsoft
         HW Accel Level: Basic
              Cap Flags: 0xF1F
    Min/Max Sample Rate: 100, 200000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 1, 0
 Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
              HW Memory: 0
       Voice Management: No
 EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
   I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No

---------------------
Sound Capture Devices
---------------------
            Description: Line In (High Definition Audio Device)
  Default Sound Capture: Yes
  Default Voice Capture: No
            Driver Name: HdAudio.sys
         Driver Version: 6.01.7601.17514 (English)
      Driver Attributes: Final Retail
          Date and Size: 11/20/2010 03:44:23, 350208 bytes
              Cap Flags: 0x1
           Format Flags: 0xFFFFF

            Description: Microphone (High Definition Audio Device)
  Default Sound Capture: No
  Default Voice Capture: No
            Driver Name: HdAudio.sys
         Driver Version: 6.01.7601.17514 (English)
      Driver Attributes: Final Retail
          Date and Size: 11/20/2010 03:44:23, 350208 bytes
              Cap Flags: 0x1
           Format Flags: 0xFFFFF

            Description: Aux (High Definition Audio Device)
  Default Sound Capture: No
  Default Voice Capture: No
            Driver Name: HdAudio.sys
         Driver Version: 6.01.7601.17514 (English)
      Driver Attributes: Final Retail
          Date and Size: 11/20/2010 03:44:23, 350208 bytes
              Cap Flags: 0x1
           Format Flags: 0xFFFFF

            Description: Microphone (High Definition Audio Device)
  Default Sound Capture: No
  Default Voice Capture: Yes
            Driver Name: HdAudio.sys
         Driver Version: 6.01.7601.17514 (English)
      Driver Attributes: Final Retail
          Date and Size: 11/20/2010 03:44:23, 350208 bytes
              Cap Flags: 0x1
           Format Flags: 0xFFFFF

-------------------
DirectInput Devices
-------------------
      Device Name: Mouse
         Attached: 1
    Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
        FF Driver: n/a

      Device Name: Keyboard
         Attached: 1
    Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
        FF Driver: n/a

      Device Name: Microsoft eHome Infrared Transceiver
         Attached: 1
    Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x045E, 0x006D
        FF Driver: n/a

      Device Name: Microsoft eHome Infrared Transceiver
         Attached: 1
    Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x045E, 0x006D
        FF Driver: n/a

      Device Name: Microsoft eHome Infrared Transceiver
         Attached: 1
    Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x045E, 0x006D
        FF Driver: n/a

      Device Name: Microsoft eHome Infrared Transceiver
         Attached: 1
    Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x045E, 0x006D
        FF Driver: n/a

Poll w/ Interrupt: No

-----------
USB Devices
-----------
+ USB Root Hub
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x8086, 0x2688
| Matching Device ID: usb\root_hub
| Service: usbhub
| Driver: usbhub.sys, 3/24/2011 20:29:26, 343040 bytes
| Driver: usbd.sys, 3/24/2011 20:28:59, 7936 bytes

----------------
Gameport Devices
----------------

------------
PS/2 Devices
------------
+ Standard PS/2 Keyboard
| Matching Device ID: *pnp0303
| Service: i8042prt
| Driver: i8042prt.sys, 7/13/2009 16:19:57, 105472 bytes
| Driver: kbdclass.sys, 7/13/2009 18:48:04, 50768 bytes
| 
+ Microsoft eHome Remote Control Keyboard keys
| Matching Device ID: hid\irdevicev2&col05
| Service: kbdhid
| Driver: kbdhid.sys, 11/20/2010 03:33:25, 33280 bytes
| Driver: kbdclass.sys, 7/13/2009 18:48:04, 50768 bytes
| 
+ Microsoft eHome MCIR Keyboard
| Matching Device ID: hid\irdevicev2&col06
| Service: kbdhid
| Driver: kbdhid.sys, 11/20/2010 03:33:25, 33280 bytes
| Driver: kbdclass.sys, 7/13/2009 18:48:04, 50768 bytes
| 
+ Microsoft eHome MCIR 109 Keyboard
| Matching Device ID: hid\irdevicev2&col07
| Service: kbdhid
| Driver: kbdhid.sys, 11/20/2010 03:33:25, 33280 bytes
| Driver: kbdclass.sys, 7/13/2009 18:48:04, 50768 bytes
| 
+ Terminal Server Keyboard Driver
| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_kbd
| Upper Filters: kbdclass
| Service: TermDD
| Driver: i8042prt.sys, 7/13/2009 16:19:57, 105472 bytes
| Driver: kbdclass.sys, 7/13/2009 18:48:04, 50768 bytes
| 
+ HID-compliant mouse
| Matching Device ID: hid_device_system_mouse
| Service: mouhid
| Driver: mouhid.sys, 7/13/2009 17:00:20, 31232 bytes
| Driver: mouclass.sys, 7/13/2009 18:48:27, 49216 bytes
| 
+ Microsoft USB IntelliMouse Optical (IntelliPoint)
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x045E, 0x0039
| Matching Device ID: hid\vid_045e&pid_0039
| Upper Filters: Point64
| Service: mouhid
| Driver: point64.sys, 8/1/2011 15:59:06, 45416 bytes
| Driver: mouhid.sys, 7/13/2009 17:00:20, 31232 bytes
| Driver: mouclass.sys, 7/13/2009 18:48:27, 49216 bytes
| Driver: wdfcoinstaller01009.dll, 8/1/2011 15:59:06, 1721576 bytes
| 
+ Terminal Server Mouse Driver
| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_mou
| Upper Filters: mouclass
| Service: TermDD
| Driver: termdd.sys, 11/20/2010 06:33:57, 63360 bytes
| Driver: sermouse.sys, 7/13/2009 17:00:20, 26624 bytes
| Driver: mouclass.sys, 7/13/2009 18:48:27, 49216 bytes

------------------
DirectShow Filters
------------------

DirectShow Filters:
WMAudio Decoder DMO,0x00800800,1,1,WMADMOD.DLL,6.01.7601.17514
WMAPro over S/PDIF DMO,0x00600800,1,1,WMADMOD.DLL,6.01.7601.17514
WMSpeech Decoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,WMSPDMOD.DLL,6.01.7601.17514
MP3 Decoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,mp3dmod.dll,6.01.7600.16385
Mpeg4s Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,mp4sdecd.dll,6.01.7600.16385
WMV Screen decoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,wmvsdecd.dll,6.01.7601.17514
WMVideo Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,wmvdecod.dll,6.01.7601.17514
Mpeg43 Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,mp43decd.dll,6.01.7600.16385
Mpeg4 Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,mpg4decd.dll,6.01.7600.16385
DV Muxer,0x00400000,0,0,qdv.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Color Space Converter,0x00400001,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
WM ASF Reader,0x00400000,0,0,qasf.dll,12.00.7601.17514
Screen Capture filter,0x00200000,0,1,wmpsrcwp.dll,12.00.7601.17514
AVI Splitter,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
VGA 16 Color Ditherer,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
SBE2MediaTypeProfile,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.06.7601.17528
Microsoft DTV-DVD Video Decoder,0x005fffff,2,4,msmpeg2vdec.dll,6.01.7140.0000
AC3 Parser Filter,0x00600000,1,1,mpg2splt.ax,6.06.7601.17528
StreamBufferSink,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.06.7601.17528
Microsoft TV Captions Decoder,0x00200001,1,0,MSTVCapn.dll,6.01.7601.17715
MJPEG Decompressor,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
CBVA DMO wrapper filter,0x00200000,1,1,cbva.dll,6.01.7601.17514
MPEG-I Stream Splitter,0x00600000,1,2,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
SAMI (CC) Parser,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
VBI Codec,0x00600000,1,4,VBICodec.ax,6.06.7601.17514
MPEG-2 Splitter,0x005fffff,1,0,mpg2splt.ax,6.06.7601.17528
Closed Captions Analysis Filter,0x00200000,2,5,cca.dll,6.06.7601.17514
SBE2FileScan,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.06.7601.17528
Microsoft MPEG-2 Video Encoder,0x00200000,1,1,msmpeg2enc.dll,6.01.7601.17514
Internal Script Command Renderer,0x00800001,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
MPEG Audio Decoder,0x03680001,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
DV Splitter,0x00600000,1,2,qdv.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Video Mixing Renderer 9,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
Microsoft MPEG-2 Encoder,0x00200000,2,1,msmpeg2enc.dll,6.01.7601.17514
ACM Wrapper,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
Video Renderer,0x00800001,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
MPEG-2 Video Stream Analyzer,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.06.7601.17528
Line 21 Decoder,0x00600000,1,1,,
Video Port Manager,0x00600000,2,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
Video Renderer,0x00400000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
VPS Decoder,0x00200000,0,0,WSTPager.ax,6.06.7601.17514
WM ASF Writer,0x00400000,0,0,qasf.dll,12.00.7601.17514
VBI Surface Allocator,0x00600000,1,1,vbisurf.ax,6.01.7601.17514
File writer,0x00200000,1,0,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
iTV Data Sink,0x00600000,1,0,itvdata.dll,6.06.7601.17514
iTV Data Capture filter,0x00600000,1,1,itvdata.dll,6.06.7601.17514
DVD Navigator,0x00200000,0,3,qdvd.dll,6.06.7601.17713
Microsoft TV Subtitles Decoder,0x00200001,1,0,MSTVCapn.dll,6.01.7601.17715
Overlay Mixer2,0x00200000,1,1,,
RDP DShow Redirection Filter,0xffffffff,1,0,DShowRdpFilter.dll,
Microsoft MPEG-2 Audio Encoder,0x00200000,1,1,msmpeg2enc.dll,6.01.7601.17514
WST Pager,0x00200000,1,1,WSTPager.ax,6.06.7601.17514
MPEG-2 Demultiplexer,0x00600000,1,1,mpg2splt.ax,6.06.7601.17528
DV Video Decoder,0x00800000,1,1,qdv.dll,6.06.7601.17514
SampleGrabber,0x00200000,1,1,qedit.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Null Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,qedit.dll,6.06.7601.17514
MPEG-2 Sections and Tables,0x005fffff,1,0,Mpeg2Data.ax,6.06.7601.17514
Microsoft AC3 Encoder,0x00200000,1,1,msac3enc.dll,6.01.7601.17514
StreamBufferSource,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.06.7601.17528
Smart Tee,0x00200000,1,2,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Overlay Mixer,0x00200000,0,0,,
AVI Decompressor,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
NetBridge,0x00200000,2,0,netbridge.dll,6.01.7601.17514
AVI/WAV File Source,0x00400000,0,2,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
Wave Parser,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
MIDI Parser,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
Multi-file Parser,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
File stream renderer,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
Microsoft DTV-DVD Audio Decoder,0x005fffff,1,1,msmpeg2adec.dll,6.01.7140.0000
StreamBufferSink2,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.06.7601.17528
AVI Mux,0x00200000,1,0,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Line 21 Decoder 2,0x00600002,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
File Source (Async.),0x00400000,0,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
File Source (URL),0x00400000,0,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
Media Center Extender Encryption Filter,0x00200000,2,2,Mcx2Filter.dll,6.01.7601.17514
AudioRecorder WAV Dest,0x00200000,0,0,WavDest.dll,
AudioRecorder Wave Form,0x00200000,0,0,WavDest.dll,
SoundRecorder Null Renderer,0x00200000,0,0,WavDest.dll,
Infinite Pin Tee Filter,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Enhanced Video Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,evr.dll,6.01.7601.17514
BDA MPEG2 Transport Information Filter,0x00200000,2,0,psisrndr.ax,6.06.7601.17669
MPEG Video Decoder,0x40000001,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713

WDM Streaming Tee/Splitter Devices:
Tee/Sink-to-Sink Converter,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7601.17514

Video Compressors:
WMVideo8 Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,wmvxencd.dll,6.01.7600.16385
WMVideo9 Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,wmvencod.dll,6.01.7600.16385
MSScreen 9 encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,wmvsencd.dll,6.01.7600.16385
DV Video Encoder,0x00200000,0,0,qdv.dll,6.06.7601.17514
MJPEG Compressor,0x00200000,0,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713

Audio Compressors:
WM Speech Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,WMSPDMOE.DLL,6.01.7600.16385
WMAudio Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,WMADMOE.DLL,6.01.7600.16385
IMA ADPCM,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
PCM,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
Microsoft ADPCM,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
GSM 6.10,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
CCITT A-Law,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
CCITT u-Law,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
MPEG Layer-3,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713

Audio Capture Sources:
Line In (High Definition Audio ,0x00200000,0,0,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Aux (High Definition Audio Devi,0x00200000,0,0,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514
Microphone (High Definition Aud,0x00200000,0,0,qcap.dll,6.06.7601.17514

PBDA CP Filters:
PBDA DTFilter,0x00600000,1,1,CPFilters.dll,6.06.7601.17528
PBDA ETFilter,0x00200000,0,0,CPFilters.dll,6.06.7601.17528
PBDA PTFilter,0x00200000,0,0,CPFilters.dll,6.06.7601.17528

Midi Renderers:
Default MidiOut Device,0x00800000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
Microsoft GS Wavetable Synth,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713

WDM Streaming Capture Devices:
HD Audio Mixed capture,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7601.17514

WDM Streaming Rendering Devices:
HD Audio Speaker,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7601.17514
HD Audio Headphone/Speakers,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7601.17514

BDA Network Providers:
Microsoft ATSC Network Provider,0x00200000,0,1,MSDvbNP.ax,6.06.7601.17514
Microsoft DVBC Network Provider,0x00200000,0,1,MSDvbNP.ax,6.06.7601.17514
Microsoft DVBS Network Provider,0x00200000,0,1,MSDvbNP.ax,6.06.7601.17514
Microsoft DVBT Network Provider,0x00200000,0,1,MSDvbNP.ax,6.06.7601.17514
Microsoft Network Provider,0x00200000,0,1,MSNP.ax,6.06.7601.17514

Multi-Instance Capable VBI Codecs:
VBI Codec,0x00600000,1,4,VBICodec.ax,6.06.7601.17514

BDA Transport Information Renderers:
BDA MPEG2 Transport Information Filter,0x00600000,2,0,psisrndr.ax,6.06.7601.17669
MPEG-2 Sections and Tables,0x00600000,1,0,Mpeg2Data.ax,6.06.7601.17514

BDA CP/CA Filters:
Decrypt/Tag,0x00600000,1,1,EncDec.dll,6.06.7601.17708
Encrypt/Tag,0x00200000,0,0,EncDec.dll,6.06.7601.17708
PTFilter,0x00200000,0,0,EncDec.dll,6.06.7601.17708
XDS Codec,0x00200000,0,0,EncDec.dll,6.06.7601.17708

WDM Streaming Communication Transforms:
Tee/Sink-to-Sink Converter,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7601.17514

Audio Renderers:
Speakers (High Definition Audio,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
Default DirectSound Device,0x00800000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
Default WaveOut Device,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713
DirectSound: Speakers (High Definition Audio Device),0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7601.17713

---------------
EVR Power Information
---------------
Current Setting: {5C67A112-A4C9-483F-B4A7-1D473BECAFDC} (Quality) 
  Quality Flags: 2576
    Enabled:
    Force throttling
    Allow half deinterlace
    Allow scaling
    Decode Power Usage: 100
  Balanced Flags: 1424
    Enabled:
    Force throttling
    Allow batching
    Force half deinterlace
    Force scaling
    Decode Power Usage: 50
  PowerFlags: 1424
    Enabled:
    Force throttling
    Allow batching
    Force half deinterlace
    Force scaling
    Decode Power Usage: 0

[dasungeheuer]

>>
I plan on getting a gtx 680 soon
>>

Don't do it!

By all accounts, the GTX 680 is an amazing piece of hardware, the first time that NVidia has released a perfomance/power/price(*) combo that blows the doors off the competition since the ill-fated GeForce 200 (curse you, underfill!).

You'll be depriving yourself of suffering, and of hours spent troubleshooting. What will you do with your time?!? Be productive and video-edit? Srsly.


(*) Potentially. Right now, they have no reason to drop prices. Manufacturing process leaves room for a drop of 40% by around this time next year, if NVidia got their act together process-wise (compared to Fermi) and their yields are good (**), and if AMD decides to attack NVidia on price, as otherwise there's no incentive to lower margins.

(**) Fermi yields didn't matter as much, NVidia paid by the "good die". TSMC wised up, the new contract has NVidia pay by the wafer, like everyone else in the industry does. Hence the warning during the investor call about yields. Doesn't mean Kepler yields are bad, just means yields will start hitting NVidia's bottom line.

[Seikojin]

>>
I plan on getting a gtx 680 soon
>>

Don't do it!

By all accounts, the GTX 680 is an amazing piece of hardware, the first time that NVidia has released a perfomance/power/price(*) combo that blows the doors off the competition since the ill-fated GeForce 200 (curse you, underfill!).

You'll be depriving yourself of suffering, and of hours spent troubleshooting. What will you do with your time?!? Be productive and video-edit? Srsly.


(*) Potentially. Right now, they have no reason to drop prices. Manufacturing process leaves room for a drop of 40% by around this time next year, if NVidia got their act together process-wise (compared to Fermi) and their yields are good (**), and if AMD decides to attack NVidia on price, as otherwise there's no incentive to lower margins.

(**) Fermi yields didn't matter as much, NVidia paid by the "good die". TSMC wised up, the new contract has NVidia pay by the wafer, like everyone else in the industry does. Hence the warning during the investor call about yields. Doesn't mean Kepler yields are bad, just means yields will start hitting NVidia's bottom line.

By soon, I mean after I can squirrel the money away for it. I am putting the 3800s up for sale, so after they are gone, then I will look to get a 680. By then the price will be a lot less than what it is now. Maybe a year will pass for it. Who knows.