Server merger !!!!!!

[murf201]

Dont know if this was already brought up ? But i for one would love the idea of some liveliness back into the game , the server is dead and i don't feel like waiting till update 14 for people to come back !!! I don't know what the mood is around here but i really don't care .

[English_Warrior]

It's brought up three times a week

A great idea if you are a fan of lag...

[MRMechMan]

I've actually thought about this more and more over the past month or so. It's getting to be that time. Will the expansion bring in new people? Maybe. But the recent update was supposed to be THE one that gave an energy boost to the game...server was dead before it...even more dead AFTER it. Epic pug scene is being cremated at the moment. Raids very hard to find people for. Maybe the forgotten realms will help but you have to wonder what else they will break with an update that big. Probably will delete all halflings or something.

Often there are 3-4 lfms up TOTAL for ALL levels. Think the lowest I have seen in the past week are TWO lfms up. Sure guild runs/TRing and channel groups are a cause of that but the biggest issue is that LESS people are online.

Would it REALLY increase lag? The server population is down pretty low and it is STILL bad sometimes, so I don't think server load is the biggest part of the problem. It's something else.

Anyone who jumps to the conclusion that "lag would be unbearable" that is not a dev or someone else with hard information is a fool. It's already unbearable sometimes, we might as well have a decent amount of people to enjoy it with .

[Pape_27]

no merger please.

i dont want to rename my toons because someone who hasnt logged on in three years has it on another server.

[rayworks]

Cannith is dead? Are we on the same server? I've never had a problem filling raids or getting an LFM going for just about anything.

[StupendoThug]

Dead?! No.

Hurting very very badly? Yes.

The force may be strong with the casuals out there in the prime 12-18 level range.
The endgame scene is withering and new entrants are few and far between.
This is the era of the soloist endless TR grind. It may be the final era.

[Zyerz]

Not another one.... Please... I used to live in Aerenal, took me a while to get used to Sarlona... I'm fine here thanks.

[varusso]

Sure thing. Go ahead. Just so long as you dont try and merge with MY server.

[nicnivyn]

I do not believe so. What is actually called for is more people willing to lead and put up those LFM's that everyone is bemoaning don't exsist.

I have no trouble getting groups in nearly any level range I'm running. When I put up an lfm it generally fills quickly unless I have very specific and off-putting requirements to much of pug-dom (BYOH, IP, know way to quest - as an example).


Let's say at any general period in time there are 100+ people looking at the empty social panel. The lfm board may be empty but that's STILL 100+ people looking for group. It's not a lack of population, it's a lack of willingness to act.

IMHO of course, YMMV.

[NovaNZ]

So say u all wise ones - if Cannith server merged - would I meet more Dwarfs?
Ill think about that again after my next tankard of ale.

[Delssar]

What I have always wondered is.

If there is a server merg and Im premium, do I get to keep all 8 characters from the two servers that merged (4 from each) or do I get screwed into only have 4 toons?

[Miahoo]

No! no no no no!! NOOOO! NO NO no nO No NoooooooOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooo!!!!!

This server is occasionally unplayable due to lags. Heavy lags. I'm talking about 2-3 seconds for buffs to take place. It was so bad 2 days ago that me and K logged out and went to play Hello Kitty (well, he did... I just went to play on Khyber ).

If you think the server is dead and/or sick of this server, you can easily do a character transfer to other server. Or like me - start a new fresh toon on other server. (I heartily recommend Khyber or Thelanis).

[flynnjsw]

What I have always wondered is.

If there is a server merg and Im premium, do I get to keep all 8 characters from the two servers that merged (4 from each) or do I get screwed into only have 4 toons?

4 toons, because there would only be 1 server.

[Truga]

We don't want your kind on Argo, so no.

[whitehawk74]

From what I have heard, there is a lot of advertising for the new addon, so this is going to bring lots of new people in... They will hit the first server on the list (Argo) and have a look. We Argo players have that to look forward to.

I dont like the idea of a server merge (all Canith into 1 other server). If the people were giving a choice as to what server they wanted to go to then I have no issue with it because the new load on the servers would be spread out.

[Truga]

I've actually thought about this more and more over the past month or so. It's getting to be that time. Will the expansion bring in new people? Maybe. But the recent update was supposed to be THE one that gave an energy boost to the game...server was dead before it...even more dead AFTER it. Epic pug scene is being cremated at the moment. Raids very hard to find people for. Maybe the forgotten realms will help but you have to wonder what else they will break with an update that big. Probably will delete all halflings or something.

Afaik epics aren't being run because scroll drops.. aren't.

Often there are 3-4 lfms up TOTAL for ALL levels. Think the lowest I have seen in the past week are TWO lfms up. Sure guild runs/TRing and channel groups are a cause of that but the biggest issue is that LESS people are online.

Ouch. Cannith does sound bad indeed.

Would it REALLY increase lag? The server population is down pretty low and it is STILL bad sometimes, so I don't think server load is the biggest part of the problem. It's something else.

Anyone who jumps to the conclusion that "lag would be unbearable" that is not a dev or someone else with hard information is a fool. It's already unbearable sometimes, we might as well have a decent amount of people to enjoy it with .

This is indeed true. As long as the amount of physical computers stays the same and they split the instances between them, I don't see any problem with all the servers merging into a single one to be honest. There would be no more or less lag. Just dedicate a machine or two to crafting hall :V

Probably won't ever happen because of the drama over character names that would cause though.

[KutchemesTheDark]

As explained above TR/Guild runs major cause of less pugs. This server no more good place for very casual people or newbies. It's too much thing effecting this :

1 - Classeses are heavily unbalanced. So most people occasionally soloing/duoing content. Especially casters. I saw so many people entering quests 2 people while there's no lfm for that quest. Also It's nonsense using tier 3 greensteel item at level 11-12. Too much overpowered TRs. Nowaday's Vibrant puple stones adding that. So no challenge - autowin. And It's boring.
2 - Most of new players haven't tendency to learn building classes, puzzles, quests.
3 - Veterans have no patience for unexperienced people.
4 - Bravery Bonus ruined pugs also. 'Oh. Is it hard ? I didn't do that elite yet. Cya'

[Yalina]

I do not believe so. What is actually called for is more people willing to lead and put up those LFM's that everyone is bemoaning don't exsist.

Let's say at any general period in time there are 100+ people looking at the empty social panel. The lfm board may be empty but that's STILL 100+ people looking for group. It's not a lack of population, it's a lack of willingness to act.

+1

Social panel is not equal with server population. Lot of people here are playing with their friends, but there are some who logs in to watch LFM for HOURS and doing nothing else than coming to forum just to complain how empty is Cannith... Is that really hard to START a group, if you need company...?

[chyribdus]

I do start groups occasionally on cannith. Some of us are just tired of random groups, such as myself, and others do need to step up and lead groups. However, that's not the only problem. I've started a group and it took 20-30 minutes to fill up for a raid. Even common raids like shroud and eVoN are taking a considerable time to fill up, where as 6 months ago, you'd be having to turn people away there would be so much interest. I'm not saying that we need to merge servers to resolve this so much as FIX THE CURRENT CONTENT BEFORE ADDING MORE. It's too late for me to suggest postponing the expansion until they fix most of the current content, and I know that most people look forward to the quarterly updates with new content, but they really do need to review current content and fix it rather than adding in new content that will also have to be fixed. Below is a list of things that are already known to need fixing.

Shroud (major lag spikes in the same place over and over)
Master Artificer (major lag spikes in the final room to the point of causing entire party wipes in under 2 minutes)

If anyone else has found content that needs to be fixed, please post it and I'll add it onto this list. I'm all for waiting an extra 3 months for new content if they are going back and fixing the problems with current content and going into the new content and making sure we aren't going to keep having these issues.

As far as the idea that cannith is dying off, it really isn't. People just need to start pugs more. There are usually enough lower lvl toons on to handle pugs, it just becomes more difficult when you're looking for just 1 type of class, like a healer.

[HungarianRhapsody]

Khyber + Argonessen = true love