Keep in mind when you look this over that I want this to primarily be an AA build. I would like to maximize AC and HP. For now I'm thinking wraps for melee. Any advice is most appreciated.
Code:Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 3.9.1 DDO Character Planner Home Page Level 20 Lawful Good Half-Elf Male (13 Fighter \ 6 Monk \ 1 Wizard) Hit Points: 374 Spell Points: 275 BAB: 17\17\22\27\27 Fortitude: 17 Reflex: 15 Will: 18 Starting Feat/Enhancement Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats (34 Point) (Level 1) (Level 20) Strength 8 10 Dexterity 17 22 Constitution 15 18 Intelligence 8 10 Wisdom 17 25 Charisma 8 10 Tomes Used +2 Tome of Strength used at level 7 +2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7 +2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7 +2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7 +2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7 +2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7 Starting Feat/Enhancement Base Skills Modified Skills Skills (Level 1) (Level 20) Balance 7 15 Bluff -1 0 Concentration 2 6 Diplomacy 3 24 Disable Device n/a n/a Haggle -1 0 Heal 3 7 Hide 3 6 Intimidate -1 0 Jump 3 10.5 Listen 3 7 Move Silently 3 6 Open Lock n/a n/a Perform n/a n/a Repair -1 0 Search -1 0 Spot 3 7 Swim -1 0 Tumble n/a n/a Use Magic Device n/a n/a Level 1 (Monk) Feat: (Selected) Dodge Feat: (Half-Elf Dilettante) Half-Elf Dilettante: Rogue Feat: (Monk Bonus) Mobility Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Ranger Level 2 (Monk) Feat: (Monk Bonus) Zen Archery Level 3 (Monk) Feat: (Monk Path) Path of Inevitable Dominion: Fists of Darkness Feat: (Selected) Point Blank Shot Enhancement: Elven Dexterity I Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortoise I Enhancement: Improved Diplomacy I Enhancement: Improved Jump I Enhancement: Monk Wisdom I Level 4 (Monk) Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery I Enhancement: Improved Diplomacy II Level 5 (Monk) Level 6 (Monk) Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Ranged Weapons Enhancement: Improved Rogue Dilettante I Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery II Enhancement: Human Versatility I Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortoise II Enhancement: Racial Toughness I Enhancement: Racial Toughness II Level 7 (Wizard) Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Mental Toughness Enhancement: Adept of Rain Enhancement: Wizard Energy of the Scholar I Level 8 (Fighter) Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Precise Shot Enhancement: Monk Wisdom II Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I Level 9 (Fighter) Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Manyshot Feat: (Selected) Rapid Shot Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer I Level 10 (Fighter) Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Force Arrows Enhancement: Half-Elf Rogue Dexterity I Level 11 (Fighter) Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Specialization: Ranged Weapons Enhancement: Elven Dexterity II Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +2 Arrows Level 12 (Fighter) Feat: (Selected) Shot on the Run Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Acid Arrows Enhancement: Fighter Toughness II Level 13 (Fighter) Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Spring Attack Level 14 (Fighter) Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Explosive Arrows Enhancement: Human Versatility II Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +3 Arrows Enhancement: Fighter Toughness III Level 15 (Fighter) Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Weapon Focus: Ranged Weapons Feat: (Selected) Improved Precise Shot Enhancement: Improved Rogue Dilettante II Level 16 (Fighter) Level 17 (Fighter) Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Two Weapon Fighting Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Force Burst Arrows Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Terror Arrows Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +4 Arrows Enhancement: Fighter Toughness IV Level 18 (Fighter) Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting Enhancement: Human Versatility III Level 19 (Fighter) Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Two Weapon Fighting Enhancement: Human Versatility IV Level 20 (Fighter) Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost II Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost III Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Slaying Arrows Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +5 Arrows
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03-25-2012, 11:38 PM #12016 DDO Players Council
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need help with a build for a 2nd life AA
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03-25-2012, 11:55 PM #2Community Member
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str is way to low.
no haste boost 4?
not verisatiltiy 4?
did i mention your str?
i would cut out some of the toughness enhancment.
have i mentioned the str?
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03-26-2012, 12:03 AM #3Community Member
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Raise STR. You are pretty close to being encumbered by a ray of enfeeblement spell.
Appears your DPS will be super low with that STR.
Just lower some stats and try to get a base STR of (atleast) 12.
A higher INT would enable combat expertise more AC, which seems to be a goal of this build.
I would not take Toughness enhancements that cost 4 AP...unless you really really want them."Hireling" and "Hjealer"
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03-26-2012, 04:25 AM #4Community Member
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I just want to say, go 12 monk... earth3 is too strong really. 12monk/7fighter/1wiz or 12monk/6ranger/2fighter h-elf as i did. This is one of the max dps of the game in my opinion, 23 kills on echrono easy.
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03-26-2012, 05:18 AM #5Community Member
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12 monk/6 ranger/2 artificer is my preferred level split at the moment for an AA build.
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03-26-2012, 10:09 AM #6Community Member
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12monk/6ranger/2fighter is hard to beat, and not only in terms of DPS, but also in terms of survivability and decent melee when necessary. Originally Posted by korsat
However, if you are determined to stick with something like your current split--like maybe you need a fighter past life for completion--then consider the following thread: http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=360460
Like most everyone else, I agree that you need more str. I would drop one point from dex, con, and wis, and put the resulting points into str. Put one level up into dex (so that w/ +2 dex tome you can qualify for IPS), then the remaining four level ups into wis.
Regarding feats, a few things stand out. First, you don't need Mental Toughness, as the Energy of the Scholar enhancement already qualifies you for AA. Second, you absolutely need Bow Strength. I notice you have GWF: Ranged, which is a pretty weak feat, while you don't have Improved Critical: Ranged. Your ranged attack is already going to be pretty good, not only because you are putting much into wis w/ zen archery, but also because you will get the Kensei I & II bonuses as well. Along those lines, mobility, spring attack, and shot on the run aren't particularly helpful either. Other feats to consider would be Quick Draw, IC: Bludgeoning, and Stunning Fist.
Regarding the Monkcheri Amour thread I gave the link to above, I think that the feat choices found there are fairly solid as they were largely the result of constructive criticism and prior discussion (even a lot carried over from the Uzy builds [see my sig]), so I refer to the updated build in the OP for the Monkcheri thread for further suggested tweaks regarding feats and enhancements. Within that thread, we also addressed class split. I think that the 13Fighter/6Monk/1Wizard split can definitely be improved.
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03-26-2012, 12:18 PM #7Build Constructionist
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Dump-stated STR w/out Bow STR, WIS-based w/out Stunning Fist, no Improved Crits, no Power Atk (due to low STR), TWF feats delayed until almost lvl 20, no Kensai despite 13 ftr lvls - but you took the D/M/SotR/SA chain and GWF.
...yeah, I think I'm gonna have to give this a thumbs-down. Sorry.Semi-retired Build Engineer. Everything was better back in our day. Get off my lawn.
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03-26-2012, 12:40 PM #8Community Member
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Their are loads on innovative AA builds out their. They normaly are Monk/RGR/Ftr combos with a 2 splash and look to incorporate 10K stars.
Starting stats . Obviously for 10k stars and Zen archery Wis becomes the new Strength. Otherwise Str is really your main attribute. Aim for 30 dex at endgame and you will hit most things (raise this to 36 if you are going Epic) and pile the rest into Str
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03-29-2012, 03:19 PM #92016 DDO Players Council
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Thank you all for the help so far. I changed a few things around and am posting the updated build here now. Please note that for some reason the build tool would not allow me to select improved precise shot (said I didn't meet the dex req even though I did). The last "toughness" feat is actually where I plan to take "improved precise shot".
Also, does 10k stars apply to ranged weapons with zen archery?
Any advice on how to improve further would be appreciated. Thanks!
Code:Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 3.9.1 DDO Character Planner Home Page Level 20 Lawful Good Half-Elf Male (2 Fighter \ 12 Monk \ 6 Ranger) Hit Points: 328 Spell Points: 315 BAB: 17\17\22\27\27 Fortitude: 19 Reflex: 19 Will: 18 Starting Feat/Enhancement Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats (34 Point) (Level 1) (Level 20) Strength 14 16 Dexterity 16 22 Constitution 14 16 Intelligence 10 12 Wisdom 16 26 Charisma 8 10 Tomes Used +2 Tome of Strength used at level 7 +2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7 +2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7 +2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7 +2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7 +2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7 +3 Tome of Wisdom used at level 10 Starting Feat/Enhancement Base Skills Modified Skills Skills (Level 1) (Level 20) Balance 5 33 Bluff -1 0 Concentration 6 28 Diplomacy 1 23 Disable Device n/a n/a Haggle -1 0 Heal 3 8 Hide 3 10 Intimidate -1 0 Jump 6 22 Listen 3 8 Move Silently 3 6 Open Lock n/a n/a Perform n/a n/a Repair 0 1 Search 0 1 Spot 7 24 Swim 2 3 Tumble n/a n/a Use Magic Device n/a n/a Level 1 (Ranger) Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Undead Feat: (Half-Elf Dilettante) Half-Elf Dilettante: Rogue Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Ranger Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Ranged Weapons Level 2 (Monk) Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness Enhancement: Human Versatility I Level 3 (Monk) Feat: (Monk Bonus) Dodge Feat: (Selected) Zen Archery Level 4 (Ranger) Level 5 (Ranger) Level 6 (Ranger) Feat: (Selected) Point Blank Shot Level 7 (Ranger) Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider Enhancement: Ranger Sprint Boost I Enhancement: Ranger Sprint Boost II Enhancement: Elven Dexterity I Enhancement: Improved Rogue Dilettante I Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery II Enhancement: Human Versatility II Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortoise I Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity I Enhancement: Monk Wisdom I Level 8 (Ranger) Enhancement: Racial Toughness I Enhancement: Racial Toughness II Enhancement: Ranger Energy of the Wild I Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity II Level 9 (Fighter) Feat: (Selected) Mental Toughness Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Precise Shot Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Force Arrows Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer I Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I Level 10 (Monk) Feat: (Monk Path) Path of Inevitable Dominion: Fists of Darkness Enhancement: Elven Dexterity II Level 11 (Fighter) Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Ranged Weapons Level 12 (Monk) Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery I Level 13 (Monk) Level 14 (Monk) Feat: (Monk Bonus) Power Attack Enhancement: Human Versatility III Enhancement: Ten Thousand Stars Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortoise II Enhancement: Adept of Wind Enhancement: Adept of Rock Enhancement: Monk Wisdom II Level 15 (Monk) Feat: (Selected) Cleave Enhancement: Improved Rogue Dilettante II Level 16 (Monk) Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Acid Arrows Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Explosive Arrows Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +2 Arrows Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +3 Arrows Level 17 (Monk) Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Force Burst Arrows Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Terror Arrows Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +4 Arrows Level 18 (Monk) Feat: (Selected) Toughness Enhancement: Porous Soul Enhancement: Improved Jump I Enhancement: Improved Jump II Enhancement: Improved Tumble I Enhancement: Improved Tumble II Level 19 (Monk) Enhancement: Monk Ninja Spy I Level 20 (Monk) Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Slaying Arrows Enhancement: Monk Ninja Spy II Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +5 Arrows
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03-29-2012, 03:26 PM #10Community Member
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FYI, Zen Archery lets you use Wisdom for your bow to-hit. So Dex is really only good for reflex saves and AC and getting IPS (but of course, those are important things) Originally Posted by krackythehoodedone
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03-29-2012, 03:45 PM #11Community Member
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Unfortunately, enhancement points do not count as base stats, which is what is needed for IPS (base stat of 19 DEX) Originally Posted by karatemack
As far as I can see, you have 16 base + 2 tome = 18 which does not qualify you.
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03-29-2012, 04:47 PM #122016 DDO Players Council
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ah, i see what i missed, i have a +3 dex tome. Thought I had applied it...
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03-30-2012, 05:37 AM #13Community Member
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This is a nice build, very similiar to mine. I just want to say you can drop elven dex1&2 and get human adaptability 1&2 on str or con or wis, it depends on where you have odd stat. Originally Posted by karatemack
With +3 dex tome you can drop power attack for improve precise shot. I'm good with pa atm but, also here, it depends if you want to be more ranged spec or melee spec...
edit: pls drop cleave for IC: bludgeon XD
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03-30-2012, 05:48 AM #14Community Member
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Pick up 1 rank in tumble and maximum ranks in UMD - I'd even consider swapping the 2 fighter to 2 artificer (only costs 1 feat as you no longer need to choose mental toughness). 0 DPS when you're dead and healers generally don't heal you unless you're in mass heal range.
Stunning Fist is a great feat to have something to do when you pull aggro rather than kiting. Swap your Favoured Enemies around. At 1 take FE:Undead (which you have), at 6 ranger take FE:Construct. After you finish in Necropolis 4 and progress to vale (level 16-18) swap FE:Undead for FE:Evil Outsider.
It's easier for people to critique your feat and enhancement list if it's all in one place, hard to see when it's spread out like that.Build Index Originally Posted by Feather_of_Sun
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