Barb1/Bard Warchanter

[MarauderX]

I've been looking at the Barb1/Bard as a better build than Barb2/bard, as it seems like only 1 barb level is needed to get a rage or two, sprint boost, etc. It seems to be a better way to get to warchanter faster (by level 7, i think), and the HP trade for earlier spell selection seems to be about right for the typical quest levels. Why bother taking a second level in Barb?

[testing1234]

1 barb 1 rogue is much superior to 2 barb
1 barb 1 arti also much better then 2 barb

2barb 18bard is just bad no way around it

[spartin]

2 barb gets you:
1 extra rage
+25% rage duration
+1 barb con
+1 barb power attack

i had about 10 minutes of rage on a WF warchanter. without the barb past life bug that has been fixed

[testing1234]

2 barb gets you:
+1 barb power attack

you get this at lvl1 barb otherwise your as far as i know right on all accounts


possible bit arrogant saying 1rogue or 1arti are "better" then 2 barb but still think so.

1arti gives you
-1tohit (from -1BAB)
unlocks trap skills and sneak skills
makes your scrolls +1lvl which for a bard is fairly huge
heal scroll: 120x1.75=210 heal scrolls instead of 110x1.75=192
also nice for DP/fire shield scrolls...

1rogue gives you
-1tohit (from -1BAB)
unlocks trap skills and sneak skills
1d6+3 sneak attack damage 1AP
haste boost 20sec 15% AS 1AP
10%sneak speed enchantments if interested in that 1AP

[unbongwah]

2 barb gets you:
1 extra rage
+25% rage duration

On a barb-splashed WC, this is effectively an 87.5% increase in Rage time if I'm doing my math right: +50% (going from 2 Rages to 3) * +25% (Extend Rage I). So yeah, if you've splashed barb 1 on a WC, I would definitely take barb 2 as well. Though I wouldn't do barb 2 / bard 18; bard 16 / barb 2 / ftr 2 makes more sense to me. You can backload the second barb lvl too; that's what I did on my Kublai Khan build.