'Best' cannith crafted twink gear

[CanuckWisdom]

sweet suggestions guys!

Looks like I gotta get my crafter some house C favor haha, didnt even know about that master craftsman thing until this thread (just got house c).

I recently made her a +4 Holy silver rapier of evil outsider bane, and I am so very pleased. Thought I was further away from such actually useful gear.

[Barazon]

The 50 favor from House C to get the Masterful Craftsmanship shards isn't too bad to get. Do the flagging quests on elite (except for Schemes of the Enemy, difficult to get an elite completion there), do the raids once on normal or do some challenges, not too bad. Being able to lower item minimum levels by two is very useful. For help on what you can make, the skill and materials required, resulting minimum level, etc, visit the "Cubicle Ninja" site. Click on "Cannith" at the top, and then "Crafting" in the tabs below that.

[DrunkenBuddha]

Although I used to use the Abishai set for twinking, I gotta say crafting has largely supplanted it. The ml 5 +4 stat items (craftsmanship shard), ml 1 featherfall item, secret door detection item, underwater action item (ml 3 I believe), attack bonus shards, lifeshield of invulnerability or lifeshield of superior stability armors, etc - all of it makes TR'ing a more pleasant experience.

[cdr]

The 50 favor from House C to get the Masterful Craftsmanship shards isn't too bad to get. Do the flagging quests on elite (except for Schemes of the Enemy, difficult to get an elite completion there), do the raids once on normal or do some challenges, not too bad. Being able to lower item minimum levels by two is very useful. For help on what you can make, the skill and materials required, resulting minimum level, etc, visit the "Cubicle Ninja" site. Click on "Cannith" at the top, and then "Crafting" in the tabs below that.

Schemes is pretty easy on elite, actually. Easier than Power Play by a significant margin. They removed the dogs from the end fight in U13 and I think they lowered Peacemaker's HP too.

[yawumpus]

sweet suggestions guys!

Looks like I gotta get my crafter some house C favor haha, didnt even know about that master craftsman thing until this thread (just got house c).

I recently made her a +4 Holy silver rapier of evil outsider bane, and I am so very pleased. Thought I was further away from such actually useful gear.

The other perks at that level are:
3% chance increase token
5% crafting xp pots.

I didn't know about the the xp pot till after I talked to the vendor. Together they should take a chunk out of the number of essenses needed to level.

[cdr]

The other perks at that level are:
3% chance increase token
5% crafting xp pots.

I didn't know about the the xp pot till after I talked to the vendor. Together they should take a chunk out of the number of essenses needed to level.

Those are basically irrelevant since you should be using the ones from the store (20%/30%) anyway.

[EllisDee37]

Those are basically irrelevant since you should be using the ones from the store (20%/30%) anyway.

Ha! Not all of us are vip and throwing tp away on consumables. I use the favor-bought versions and love it, saving my tp for more important things like adventure packs, classes and races.

I will recommend spending 95 tp (preferably less during a sale) exactly once for a pack of 20% boosters, and saving them for the few instances of high-cost shards that you can't afford to fail, like Greater Lawful Outsider Bane. (Costs an LDS!) This lets you get to within 4 levels of the expensive shard, then kick it up to 100% with/booster.

So far I've leveled to 91/86/80 on a non-dragonmarked ranger, without spending a single TP on crafting beyond that lone pack of 20% boosters. I have around a dozen of them left. (Pretty sure they come in packs of 25.) They make the ultimate devil beaters (+5 burst of greater lawful bane) only require levels 60/70/0 for "no-fail" on the important shards.

[EllisDee37]

The 50 favor from House C to get the Masterful Craftsmanship shards isn't too bad to get. Do the flagging quests on elite (except for Schemes of the Enemy, difficult to get an elite completion there), do the raids once on normal or do some challenges, not too bad. Being able to lower item minimum levels by two is very useful. For help on what you can make, the skill and materials required, resulting minimum level, etc, visit the "Cubicle Ninja" site. Click on "Cannith" at the top, and then "Crafting" in the tabs below that.

Schemes is pretty easy on elite, actually. Easier than Power Play by a significant margin. They removed the dogs from the end fight in U13 and I think they lowered Peacemaker's HP too.

Good to hear about Schemes, though Power Play is still probably easier by a decent margin. (The boss can't hit you and just stands there; doesn't get much easier than that.)

No raiding is required for 50 house C favor. With the free daily challenge tokens it's even easier, but I got my favor before the challenge pack existed:

12 Schemes of the Enemy Hard
18 Blown to Bits Elite
21 Power Play Elite
----
51

The best part is that you can do this while capped and not break anyone's streak, so it's easier to find groups. If you just get all three on hard that's 38 favor, and the last 12 can come from free daily challenges. Figure 2 stars (not hard to get) on most of the non-epic kobold island and lava caves ones and you're good to go.

[cdr]

Ha! Not all of us are vip and throwing tp away on consumables. I use the favor-bought versions and love it, saving my tp for more important things like adventure packs, classes and races.

I will recommend spending 95 tp (preferably less during a sale) exactly once for a pack of 20% boosters, and saving them for the few instances of high-cost shards that you can't afford to fail, like Greater Lawful Outsider Bane. (Costs an LDS!) This lets you get to within 4 levels of the expensive shard, then kick it up to 100% with/booster.

I appreciate the strawman, but I'm not VIP and I don't spend Turbine points easily. The 30% crafting XP pots are possibly the single best consumable value in the DDO store, though, if you're at all serious about leveling crafting. An excellent choice from the 6 year old cake, too.

You don't use 20% boosters all the time, either - just when starting a new recipe until you get the failure rate up to where it's acceptable to you.

If you're not using 30% pots and 20% boosters, nothing else you're doing to try to optimize your leveling process matters. Everything else pales in comparison.

We'll have to disagree on whether Power Play or Schemes is more difficult - neither boss is difficult, Power Play has 10X more trash than Schemes and that's the more difficult part.

[Matuse]

The detect secret doors shard is seriously underrated. Tag it on goggles and wear 'em if you aren't a trapper. It isn't a clicky like the junk loot detect secret doors items you find -- its always on 100% detection. So very convenient! So very usable long before you can equip true seeing.

A 3/day secret door click item will work for pretty much every quest in the entire game. Certainly enough of them to get to level 5, at which point you use Voice+Mantle for true seeing, which also picks up secret doors.

[EllisDee37]

I appreciate the strawman, but I'm not VIP and I don't spend Turbine points easily. The 30% crafting XP pots are possibly the single best consumable value in the DDO store, though, if you're at all serious about leveling crafting.

I guess I must not be serious about leveling crafting, then, as I consider those a frivolous waste of tp.

I'm in the 80s-90s on all schools, and I'm thinking back to, say, level 52. Right now, in the context of the recipes I'm working with now, I would consider it a complete and utter waste of TP if I'd been throwing away crafting boosters at level 52.

I'm pretty sure no matter how high level you get, looking back several scores of levels ago you'd think it was a waste of tp to boost such (in context) cheap recipes.

Certainly if there are any packs, races or classes you don't own yet, tp has more value spent elsewhere.

[Matuse]

Use 6th year birthday cake for a half dozen major crafting XP potions. No TP spent.

The other rewards for the cake are either just plain bad, or are things I have piles of already.

[Rhysem]

A 3/day secret door click item will work for pretty much every quest in the entire game. Certainly enough of them to get to level 5, at which point you use Voice+Mantle for true seeing, which also picks up secret doors.

Its like the clicky but never runs out. Clearly this is inferior.

Also, as opposed to the clicky it doesn't require looking up or memorizing and remembering where secret doors are.

Most of my toons have better things to do than wear both voice+mantle for true seeing. If nothing else, crafted goggles that include true seeing + something else generally > cloak, and the trinket slot has a lot better things to stuff in it than voice if you have the cloak on.

[thouston]

Use 6th year birthday cake for a half dozen major crafting XP potions. No TP spent.

The other rewards for the cake are either just plain bad, or are things I have piles of already.

this is what i did with all my bank toons

[Matuse]

Most of my toons have better things to do than wear both voice+mantle for true seeing.

You don't need to wear them full time. You wouldn't want to wear the secret door goggles all the time either (which also puts something of a crimp in your idea of not memorizing the location of doors). Unless you put another useful effect on them, which has the tendency to inflate the ML beyond all reason, and there goes the low level benefit of having it at all.

[Mathermune]

My opinion, for what it's worth.

Take the time to get a character with 50 House Cannith favor. -2 minimum level is great.

My artificer, among other things is using:

Mithril Fearsome Full Plate of Invulnerability with master craftsmanship ML:5
Screaming of Bleed Heavy Repeater: ML:3 reduced to 1
The bonus of the Pathfinder Korthos set is an untyped +2 to hit and stacks with my +2 goggles of battle skill ML:5 reduced to 3.

Also, I'm sure it's been mentioned but rune arms that can be crafted can have their ML reduced by two as well if you're OK with them being bound to character.

[SurlyYuri]

Moderate Fort Belt with a Guild Augment slot, Master Crafted...ML3. Add a Health Gem to the slot and you have a good HP boost.

[chrichton]

I appreciate the strawman, but I'm not VIP and I don't spend Turbine points easily. The 30% crafting XP pots are possibly the single best consumable value in the DDO store, though, if you're at all serious about leveling crafting. An excellent choice from the 6 year old cake, too.

You don't use 20% boosters all the time, either - just when starting a new recipe until you get the failure rate up to where it's acceptable to you.

If you're not using 30% pots and 20% boosters, nothing else you're doing to try to optimize your leveling process matters. Everything else pales in comparison.

We'll have to disagree on whether Power Play or Schemes is more difficult - neither boss is difficult, Power Play has 10X more trash than Schemes and that's the more difficult part.

I don't recall seeing 30% craft XP boosts - I only saw - I think - 20 or 25%.