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    Default Portable Hole - Upgrade

    Every once in awhile Turbine (DDO) will do some major upgrade to the look and feel of an area and might I say do a very good job at it. I propose it is time the Portable Hole get a major overall to have a more look and feel of a casters retreat.

    Add In:
    chemsitry labs
    beakers
    big library (with the ability to read some books with lore when clicked on occasionally)
    maybe a specialized vendor with cosmetic caster garb, hats, etc...
    There are other nice additions I am sure that could be done (ideas anyone)

    Keep:
    wizard & sorcerer trainers
    potion vendors
    scroll vendors
    wand vendors
    mailbox

    tavern (but make it less obtrusive to the environment, more suttle)
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    Add a dancing troupe or a band from another plane of existence, too. Wizards love entertainment

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    I propose to add a portal to the porthole, accessable by those with the Religious Lore feat or the Arcane Lore feat, but requires 9 levels of spells. This way, any casting class can get some Porthole-only scrolls without having to bind and /death if they need them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Habreno View Post
    I propose to add a portal to the porthole, accessable by those with the Religious Lore feat or the Arcane Lore feat, but requires 9 levels of spells. This way, any casting class can get some Porthole-only scrolls without having to bind and /death if they need them.
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    Don't need any clueless barb or newb trying to peek their heads through a real, materialized portal... The fact this place is only reachable through a spell is what's making the Hole a special place exactly
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    Quote Originally Posted by Habreno View Post
    I propose to add a portal to the porthole, accessable by those with the Religious Lore feat or the Arcane Lore feat, but requires 9 levels of spells. This way, any casting class can get some Porthole-only scrolls without having to bind and /death if they need them.
    /not signed to this. It is a place of arcane, not divine. I would rather they update the temple in house D or add a new place just for divine stuff.

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    I wouldn't mind seeing bard trainers in there since their magic is considered arcane.

    Most of what is proposed seems to be fluff however so unless it gets updated with more functionality, I'm happy with how it is now.

    I don't really want to hear music in there when I'm trying to figure out how much of my components I need because most of the music I've heard isn't very good anyway. If we are talking about Philter, King Crimson, or Debussy as the music, well I'll sign on to that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KillEveryone View Post
    /not signed to this. It is a place of arcane, not divine. I would rather they update the temple in house D or add a new place just for divine stuff.

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    I wouldn't mind seeing bard trainers in there since their magic is considered arcane.

    Most of what is proposed seems to be fluff however so unless it gets updated with more functionality, I'm happy with how it is now.

    I don't really want to hear music in there when I'm trying to figure out how much of my components I need because most of the music I've heard isn't very good anyway. If we are talking about Philter, King Crimson, or Debussy as the music, well I'll sign on to that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by balancetraveller View Post
    /not signed

    Don't need any clueless barb or newb trying to peek their heads through a real, materialized portal... The fact this place is only reachable through a spell is what's making the Hole a special place exactly
    Not quite you can get there via a feat as well


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    To make it even more caster speced why not have it so if you can't cast at least level 2 or aren't a sorc,bard,or wiz, then when you try to enter the portable hole you instantly die. And have some random monsters spawn in there to represent when people miscast, don't let the mobs attack you though unless you attack them.

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    Please also add AH and Bank, that will lead my toons bind their souls in Portable Hole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Habreno View Post
    I propose to add a portal to the porthole, accessable by those with the Religious Lore feat or the Arcane Lore feat, but requires 9 levels of spells. This way, any casting class can get some Porthole-only scrolls without having to bind and /death if they need them.
    For divine consideration the teample in House Deneith really needs to be upgraded. Right now its just a big ole empty room. Where is the congregation, pews, brothers, etc...
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    Portable Hole Vendors---
    * Petra Pollister (Potion Peddler)
    -Change to sell all potions in the ph.
    * Gage Alzander (General Vendor)
    -Change from general vendor to Arcane Materials Vendor
    -Move potions from Gage to Petra
    -Sell black onyx gems
    * Add Vendor (wand vendor)
    * Add Vendor (general vendor)
    -robes
    -repair kits
    -normal arrows
    -normal bolts
    -masterwork staff
    -masterwork scepter
    *Arcane Scroll Vendors
    -no change
    *Spirit Binder
    -no change
    *Barkeep
    -no change
    *Trainers
    -no change
    *Mailbox
    -no change
    *Add Arcane Training Dummy(s)

    What the OP Stated
    *Library, Chem labs, beakers.
    *Add an area to try on and purchase cosmetic gear.
    -create new cosmetic gear for robes/armor and hats/helms

    Portable Hole Appearance---
    *Give Arcane Look
    -more like the beginning of chronoscope
    -energy-crystal magical appearance
    -bluish/purplish/redish energy that you can see outside the magic structure
    *Three Tiers
    -1st tier have barkeep, binder, vendors, portable exit to marketplace
    -2nd tier have arcane scroll vendors, zone in
    -3rd tier have a training dummy room where you need to walk through door like a quest.
    -each instance is a separate instance like a normal quest.
    -a party can enter together.
    -players can’t harm each other like they can in tavern brawls.
    *Add some magical structures, statues or fountains or great pillars of shards pulsating with energy placed in the center for eye candy.

    Don’t Want Any of the Following---
    *Plants. Please no ferns!
    *Bankers. Already have teleport spell that leads to a bank.
    *Auction house. Again, teleport spell.
    *Airship dock. Airships can’t travel there.

    Some info is also from this link- http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php...=portable+hole

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    I would settle for an AH. Make it a one stop shop for my Wigue.

    Could also be a nice quest later on down the track, extra planar creatures attacking the Portable Hole?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Falco_Easts View Post
    I would settle for an AH. Make it a one stop shop for my Wigue.

    Could also be a nice quest later on down the track, extra planar creatures attacking the Portable Hole?
    That would be interesting, certainly. And if you get that pack/complete that quest, you see a beholder mage at the bar!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Falco_Easts View Post
    I would settle for an AH. Make it a one stop shop for my Wigue.

    Could also be a nice quest later on down the track, extra planar creatures attacking the Portable Hole?
    That would be cool to play -- have the portable hole empty while the party fights off those extra planar attacks. It'll give the other classes a small taste of the ph. The other two or three quests could then be elsewhere in that dimension.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kilagan800 View Post
    Portable Hole Vendors---
    * Petra Pollister (Potion Peddler)
    -Change to sell all potions in the ph. yes
    * Gage Alzander (General Vendor)
    -Change from general vendor to Arcane Materials Vendor please
    -Move potions from Gage to Petra sure...
    -Sell black onyx gems very much yes
    * Add Vendor (wand vendor) Have special wands there and "limited" eternal wands IE like the sturdy arrows/bolts from house Denieth however that could work limit power?
    * Add Vendor (general vendor) notes....
    -robes of different styles
    -repair kits no....
    -normal arrows why not just conjure your own via flaming arrow spell
    -normal bolts see above
    -masterwork staff again different looks
    -masterwork scepter no scepter give them sickles, scepters in the house D temple
    *Arcane Scroll Vendors
    -no change have it all in one vendor? or just all of them in one place not scattered
    *Spirit Binder
    -no change CHANGE IT to be a halfling sorcerer that says he likes using raise dead scrolls
    *Barkeep
    -no change make him a mind flayer, not only the peaceful denizens are mages
    *Trainers
    -no change make some kobold shamans in the mix
    *Mailbox
    -no change right no change
    *Add Arcane Training Dummy(s) yes, but on the outside of the quest is a beholder bouncer, what use is a hobgoblin bouncer when the mage looks at it and the bouncer is gone, have to have a beholder

    What the OP Stated
    *Library, Chem labs, beakers. give them a use
    *Add an area to try on and purchase cosmetic gear. the magical shop would work
    -create new cosmetic gear for robes/armor and hats/helms agree'd several times over, OR just give us the option to use illusionary magic to change it! its not THAT compliacted is it?

    Portable Hole Appearance---
    *Give Arcane Look
    -more like the beginning of chronoscope ehhhhh chronoscope is a bit chromatic make it better for the hole
    -energy-crystal magical appearance nty
    -bluish/purplish/redish energy that you can see outside the magic structure visual magical energy is always a good sign ^_^
    *Three Tiers
    -1st tier have barkeep, binder, vendors, portable exit to marketplace not just the market make it act like you casted a teleportation spell without the oops chance
    -2nd tier have arcane scroll vendors, zone in that is fine
    -3rd tier have a training dummy room where you need to walk through door like a quest.
    -each instance is a separate instance like a normal quest. make you be able to change the resistances/prots/immunities/saves/ect
    -a party can enter together. now why would you want that?
    -players can’t harm each other like they can in tavern brawls. hence the beholder bouncer
    *Add some magical structures, statues or fountains or great pillars of shards pulsating with energy placed in the center for eye candy. sure just nothing too fancy

    Don’t Want Any of the Following---
    *Plants. Please no ferns! GODS NO!
    *Bankers. Already have teleport spell that leads to a bank. i understand that
    *Auction house. Again, teleport spell. auctioneers are too loud anyways
    *Airship dock. Airships can’t travel there. better not....

    Some info is also from this link- http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php...=portable+hole
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    Quote Originally Posted by HatsuharuZ View Post
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    drunken beholders? how about beholders on chains in an antimagic field that only affects them? with a regeneration spell on them! mages would enjoy torturing the poor saps
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    couldn't the mages just cast FoD


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    Deathblock hats, so, no, FoD fails. Unless you disjunct the gear :P
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    My thoughts on your post for changes to portable hole.

    Some of how the Twelve arcane shop is setup is close to what we want in the portable hole.


    Quote Originally Posted by kilagan800 View Post
    Portable Hole Vendors---
    * Petra Pollister (Potion Peddler)
    -Change to sell all potions in the ph. - yes, put 2 or 3 behind a chemistry station.
    * Gage Alzander (General Vendor)
    -Change from general vendor to Arcane Materials Vendor - yes
    -Move potions from Gage to Petra - yes
    -Sell black onyx gems - no preference here
    * Add Vendor (wand vendor) - yes
    * Add Vendor (general vendor) - NO, we do not need arrows & bolts in an arcane shop.
    -robes
    -repair kits
    -normal arrows
    -normal bolts
    -masterwork staff
    -masterwork scepter
    *Arcane Scroll Vendors
    -no change
    *Spirit Binder
    -no change
    *Barkeep
    -no change
    *Trainers
    -no change
    *Mailbox
    -no change
    *Add Arcane Training Dummy(s) - hmmm, what would it do?

    What the OP Stated
    *Library, Chem labs, beakers. - yes
    *Add an area to try on and purchase cosmetic gear. - yes
    -create new cosmetic gear for robes/armor and hats/helms

    Portable Hole Appearance---
    *Give Arcane Look - yes or like the Twelve
    -more like the beginning of chronoscope
    -energy-crystal magical appearance
    -bluish/purplish/redish energy that you can see outside the magic structure
    *Three Tiers - NO, everything needs to be in one room no instance inside the inside instance.
    -1st tier have barkeep, binder, vendors, portable exit to marketplace
    -2nd tier have arcane scroll vendors, zone in
    -3rd tier have a training dummy room where you need to walk through door like a quest.
    -each instance is a separate instance like a normal quest.
    -a party can enter together.
    -players can’t harm each other like they can in tavern brawls.
    *Add some magical structures, statues or fountains or great pillars of shards pulsating with energy placed in the center for eye candy. - yes but it should not be over the top gaudy.

    Don’t Want Any of the Following---
    *Plants. Please no ferns! - I think some in a small way would be appropriate.
    *Bankers. Already have teleport spell that leads to a bank. - agree, no
    *Auction house. Again, teleport spell. - agree, no
    *Airship dock. Airships can’t travel there. - agree, no
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