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    Quote Originally Posted by shores11 View Post
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    Maybe it is me but the OP post did say "make the challenge easier" that did not come from me. So maybe a suggested tactic for you might be to read & UNDERSTAND what your reading.
    I concede the OP isn't talking about nerfing the difficulty of the higher stars and is saying that the challenges on Kobold Island generally need to be easier.

    That said,
    -the OP alluded to the ridiculous scaling mechanism that needs to be looked at
    -stars 4 - 5 on Shortcuts have never been achieved
    -and stars 4 - 5 on The Disruptor need to be looked at.

    For that reason, trivializing any complaints about Kobold Island with 'easy button' cries bother me since it really needs looking at. Although this post isn't 'on point' with everything that needs changing in these challenges, the OP has a valid point with respect to the scaling mechanism (4 people is already getting to the 'disproportionately difficult compared with the rest of the game if you're not geared' point) that does need review, and won't create an 'easy button'.

    The substance of my and others' complaints - that the stars achievable through good gameplay and maxxing out extraction rates are impossible - remains despite the factoid that now a few people have used the 5 required turret requisitions in The Disruptor to achieve 4 stars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shores11 View Post
    According to your link there have been people 4 star disruptor both on Thenalis & Wayfinder, ooops.
    Actually no one on Wayfinder has 4 starred it. (So should that be an oops oops?) It appears that only 4 people on Thenalis have scored 4 stars, most likely in the same run since they have the exact same score.

    Anyway, I think Deathdefy's post above this one pretty much sums up my feelings on the subject.

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    I tend to believe that the Challenges being that hard is or might be very likely a direct result of some people bickering that Raids were too easy now.

    Edit : This reply of mine is somewhat connected to it, I think : http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p...27&postcount=9
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alrik_Fassbauer View Post
    I tend to believe that the Challenges being that hard is or might be very likely a direct result of some people bickering that Raids were too easy now.

    Edit : This reply of mine is somewhat connected to it, I think : http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p...27&postcount=9
    The thing is, the Challenges aren't hard. Getting a specific number of stars in a specific challenge is impossible, while getting that same number of stars in a different challenge is easy, and in yet another challenge it's pretty difficult. Certainly setting an impossible condition wasn't intentional, but even putting that aside, it's hard to believe the wildly divergent levels of difficulty, XP/time, rewards/time were intentional.

    It's comforting to believe that there is a grand design or overarching vision behind the various changes to DDO, but I just can't see any reason to do so. I don't think the developers took a minority's complaints about raid ease into account, because I don't think they took anything into account. This shouldn't be interpreted as a criticism, or at least not a severe one, I just think the best explanation is they just don't care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oradafu View Post
    Actually no one on Wayfinder has 4 starred it. (So should that be an oops oops?) It appears that only 4 people on Thenalis have scored 4 stars, most likely in the same run since they have the exact same score.

    Anyway, I think Deathdefy's post above this one pretty much sums up my feelings on the subject.
    Should your oops be an oops oops oops because your wrong. On Wayfinder 4 people have 4 starred "The Disruptor" and 2 people have 4 starred "Short Cuts".
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    Quote Originally Posted by shores11 View Post
    Should your oops be an oops oops oops because your wrong. On Wayfinder 4 people have 4 starred "The Disruptor" and 2 people have 4 starred "Short Cuts".
    Please tell me at what level people on Wayfinder have 4 starred The Disruptor. As of this posting the highest anyone has gotten on Wayfinder for these Challenges is:
    * Level 8 - 2 stars
    * Level 9 - 2 stars
    * Level 10 - 3 stars (only 1 person)
    * Level 11 - 3 stars (only 2 people)
    * Level 12 - 2 stars
    * Level 13 - 3 stars (only 5 people)
    * Level 14 - 2 stars
    * Level 15 - 2 stars
    * Level 16 - 2 stars
    * Level 17 - 2 stars
    * Level 18 - 3 stars (only 2 people)
    * Level 19 - 2 stars
    * Level 20 - 3 stars (only 4 people)
    * Level 21 - 2 stars
    * Level 22 - 0
    * Level 23 - 0
    * Level 24 - 0
    * Level 25 - 0

    SO please tell me at which level on Wayfinder someone has 4 starred. Because I count 14 different people who have 3 starred it, but not a single person has 4 starred it on Wayfinder.

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    Dont sweat it- when people stop playing it and telling other people that it isnt worth it to buy it, it will get easier so that they can sell it. You are consuming a product from a supplier. Think in those terms.

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