Bugs taking over DDO

[Alrik_Fassbauer]

It used to happend to me as well, for some period of time. Every time i exited game, i exited with crash error(in every other aspect, ddo worked just fine). Was long ago, dont remember what fixed it or whether it just went away on its own. Most likely got fixed with my semi pre planned clean OS and or ddo client installs.

Such crashes can be combination of many things involved. Everything that creates your gaming interface, directx, dotNET, healthy state of OS in general etc.

EDIT: hate my english, once done writing it looks like gibberish at second reading, or just plain ugly

English isn't my first language, either.

And yes, I already have my suspicions why my game client is crashing all of the time : It could be that my in-game graphics options are just "too high". I will try to reduce everything a bit.

Because I didn't have these constant game-ending crashes prior to U13 - and around that time I started experimenting with increasing my graphics options, too.

My worst complaint is right now that if I'm using the DDO story in-game (I think it's a mini-browser there), or any other internet browser, the game will crash within 5 minutes. I can bet on that. I have to restart the PC if I want DDO to play/run smoothly any time after using either the in-game DDO store or an out-game internet browser.

[Bloodstealer]

As you may guess by yourself i am using this thread to report all the bugs i find in the game so that we can have a wider vision of things and find informations about them easily and faster.

Long story short: completed A cabal for one quest without claiming my reward and look what happened when getting near the quest entrance

Yes, the reward window popped out of nowhere asking me to pick it, maybe the game was anxious to get me running it again

So i decided to pick one.
When i get to back to GH i checked the npc contact and it no more showed the yellow/green chalice upon his head telling me the reward was considered taken.

Not a really harmful bug but quite funny instead.

Bug reported

Ladders to you all!

Why is this a bug... the mechanic is there maybe to help players who have lapses in concentration forgetting to pick up rewards.. therefore you are given your reward reminder.. you take it and it updates the NPC so you cant try and get a second reward...
As Cabal is a walk up quest it means having this eliminates the need for you to run all the way back to GH to get your reward and then run back again.... you can just enter the quest straight away then... simples really

SO.. I AM STILL STRUGGLING TO UNDERSTAND WHY THIS IS A BUG?... you really need to try and understand what a bug really is and perhaps try to stop whinning so much... this is an MMO and as such isn't so easy to control like an RPG... cascading code can be a tricksey thing... show me an MMO that doesn't have bugs (proper bugs mind you.. not the kind your trying to make out here) and ill try and take you more seriously... otherwise I say your only serving to make yourself look very inexperienced around MMO's, and all your actuially doing is putting tickets in that are wasting people time reading just because you have a reading comprehension failure or lots of concentration lapses...

[Bloodstealer]

/agree

Not many people read the dialogues.

I was playing one of my characters in the Litany of the Dead quest on elite one time and wanted to answer the questions to the Black Dragon without reading the dialogues. The black dragon breathed acid and then killed the character answering wrong. The character cannot even resurrect with a cleric or cake afterwards. Did the dragon ask the questions in bold face red text? i.e. Doing this I will breathe acid and kill you?

No...

Oh yeah, the Black Dragon did not offer refunds for resurrection cakes either.... I do not think the Black Dragon even has Siberys Cakes in stock in his stash.

I was wondering if there is a quest dialogue inside a dungeon in the new expansion MOTU area where a monster or NPC asked the player... "Oh yeah, in order to proceed through this collapsed hole; I need to remove all your armor, green steel items, epic items and polymorph you into a mouse; and one of the neat rewards that someone else provided you earlier will be crumbled to dust..." I wonder how many people won't read that and press [option 1] and [enter] all the way...

Well Turbine could of just given you 2 doors rather than a dragon.. with the correct door giving you quest progression, the other an instant Acid Bath... no information to go off.. just random door selection... imagine the outcry.. the dialoague is a game of wits, if your not experienced in the quest then more fool to anyone who wants to space bar through such dialogues.. expect.. the UNEXPECTED but don't come to forums and whine cos of reading comprehension failure or concentration lapses or worse failing at trying to exploit a game mechainc and crying foul of Turbine in a bug report...

[Alrik_Fassbauer]

with the correct door giving you quest progression, the other an instant Acid Bath...

Replace "acid" with "poison" and you already have it : http://ddowiki.com/page/Stopping_the_Sahuagin

[Phemt81]

Care to share that? Maybe someone finds it useful!

DDO seems to not like up to date video card drivers, so when i rolled back to original driver setup all went smoother.

Just my personal experience but may be worth a try.

Here ^

[Bloodstealer]

Replace "acid" with "poison" and you already have it : http://ddowiki.com/page/Stopping_the_Sahuagin

Actually that's technically incorrect.. the Satopping Sahuagin quest has 2 doors i grant.. but they are not random decisions and both lead to quest progression... they just provide differnent challenges in the rooms.. ie poison trap (which is not instant death like the black dragon in LotD) the other door allows quest progression but secret doors open up once inside to allow mobs out to attack you.

So it is not a game of wits, it is not a challen ge which is make or break of the quest... and sorry to say not random like the example I used.... random door decision.. 50-50 chance to progress or acid bath time...

LotD does have a need to stop and think/read what the drsgon says.. unless your happy to space bar through and guess ... though I except even this after 5-6 times is merely a memory game so even I space bar through it everytime now

[Phemt81]

Why is this a bug... the mechanic is there maybe to help players who have lapses in concentration forgetting to pick up rewards.. therefore you are given your reward reminder.. you take it and it updates the NPC so you cant try and get a second reward...
As Cabal is a walk up quest it means having this eliminates the need for you to run all the way back to GH to get your reward and then run back again.... you can just enter the quest straight away then... simples really
SO.. I AM STILL STRUGGLING TO UNDERSTAND WHY THIS IS A BUG?... you really need to try and understand what a bug really is and perhaps try to stop whinning so much...

So, that one is WAI? Really? Does it mean it happens all the times you avoid to claim the reward and go back to quest entrance?

Did you try it already? I am interested to know.

[Nospheratus]

Here ^

Ah! Thanks! Didn't see it before!

That may be the case I experienced as well, since it was one particular windows update that caused my game to start "crashing the video driver". At the time, I remember even updating my graphic's card BIOS. Didn't change anything...

Never happened on windows 7 though, with everything absolutely up to date. Even updated my motherboard's BIOS, which I'll add, made one other specific issue disapear!

The issue was:
In some areas my game client would just freeze. If I alt+tab to windows desktop, I could see it taking all the processor time it could, even though it normally doesn't when you ALT+TAB. It would happen for *sure* in the Tower Cave (ToD entrance) and almost for sure inside the twelve tower and in the room where the planescalar is. Also, when opening an epic chest in Tide Turns, Devil Assault and possible some others. Some other random places as well, but nowhere near as frequent as those metioned before.

This issue reduced frequency when I reinstalled the game client, but it disapeared when I updated my BIOS. I haven't experienced this issue since ever, can't specify since when though. Perhaps since the update in which the stormreach assault pack was launched.

[Bloodstealer]

So, that one is WAI? Really? Does it mean it happens all the times you avoid to claim the reward and go back to quest entrance?

Did you try it already? I am interested to know.

Once again you fail in reading comprehension... its a walk up quest.. hence why its there becuase you do not need to speak to the NPC to update/retake a quest after taking your reward... now if you were talking about ... hmmm Madstone Crater or Crucible or PoP which are required to update as they form part of the Gianthold quest chain.. then I could start to agree its a bug but Cabal and the rest are merely side quests and it acts as a time saving exercise.. why is this a bad thing and certainly not considered a bug, unless you like to keep parties waiting because of your lapses in concentration...

[Phemt81]

Ah! Thanks! Didn't see it before!
That may be the case I experienced as well, since it was one particular windows update that caused my game to start "crashing the video driver". At the time, I remember even updating my graphic's card BIOS. Didn't change anything...
Never happened on windows 7 though, with everything absolutely up to date. Even updated my motherboard's BIOS, which I'll add, made one other specific issue disapear!
The issue was:
In some areas my game client would just freeze. If I alt+tab to windows desktop, I could see it taking all the processor time it could, even though it normally doesn't when you ALT+TAB. It would happen for *sure* in the Tower Cave (ToD entrance) and almost for sure inside the twelve tower and in the room where the planescalar is. Also, when opening an epic chest in Tide Turns, Devil Assault and possible some others. Some other random places as well, but nowhere near as frequent as those metioned before.
This issue reduced frequency when I reinstalled the game client, but it disapeared when I updated my BIOS. I haven't experienced this issue since ever, can't specify since when though. Perhaps since the update in which the stormreach assault pack was launched.

You are welcome! And very nice post; that could help people with same issue you had! Care to indicate what kind of machine was affected by that anomaly?

[Bloodstealer]

Ah! Thanks! Didn't see it before!

That may be the case I experienced as well, since it was one particular windows update that caused my game to start "crashing the video driver". At the time, I remember even updating my graphic's card BIOS. Didn't change anything...

Never happened on windows 7 though, with everything absolutely up to date. Even updated my motherboard's BIOS, which I'll add, made one other specific issue disapear!

The issue was:
In some areas my game client would just freeze. If I alt+tab to windows desktop, I could see it taking all the processor time it could, even though it normally doesn't when you ALT+TAB. It would happen for *sure* in the Tower Cave (ToD entrance) and almost for sure inside the twelve tower and in the room where the planescalar is. Also, when opening an epic chest in Tide Turns, Devil Assault and possible some others. Some other random places as well, but nowhere near as frequent as those metioned before.

This issue reduced frequency when I reinstalled the game client, but it disapeared when I updated my BIOS. I haven't experienced this issue since ever, can't specify since when though. Perhaps since the update in which the stormreach assault pack was launched.

Game freezing cvould be down to hardware issues, heat or maybe driver incompatability... your Bios update may well have helped with conflicts maybe.

Re Alt tabbing (this being a multi tasking operation), can cause issues with resource intensive situations such as gaming (mmo's especially) as if you have insufficient memory for instasnce it will cause the game to stall.

On 32-bit machines running modern MMO's this can be noticeable as the max memory that it will utilise is around 3.25Gb.. a limitation of 32-Bit OS... Win 7 (if using 64-Bit) will allow you to utilise more than 4GB of memory which will imporove your multi-tasking ability depending on how much you have installed.
However as DDO is a 32-Bit process it will still only utilise the 3.25GB not for example 8GB.
The most important thing I look to do is keep my sound and GPU drivers up to date as well as Bios.. which it sounds like you have done and has resolved your initial issues.

One thing I have noticed.. not so much with DDO but with other MMO's, I have an ATI Radeon HD6670 Graphics card, whcih has its own HD sound drivers... these have conflicted with my other sound drivers (Realtek HD sound)... I found which device location corresponded to whcih device and disabled it in device manager... this not only eliminated broken sound issues, which often appeared to be game lag but also random lock-ups I was suffering.

Im not overly IT techy so some of the info might be a little off track but I think its not far wrong, if at all.

[danotmano1998]

I have an ATI Radeon HD6670 Graphics card, whcih has its own HD sound drivers... these have conflicted with my other sound drivers (Realtek HD sound)... I found which device location corresponded to whcih device and disabled it in device manager... this not only eliminated broken sound issues, which often appeared to be game lag but also random lock-ups I was suffering.

Thanks for this post, +1.
Occasionally I get wierd sound glitches as well, I shall have to try disabling the on board sound and see if that helps.

Good idea!

[Bloodstealer]

Thanks for this post, +1.
Occasionally I get wierd sound glitches as well, I shall have to try disabling the on board sound and see if that helps.

Good idea!

I forgot to note.. i tried disabling both (not at same time obviusly ) and I found it was actually the Radeon HD sound drivers to be the issue... I disabled it and the Realtek ones run like a dream... might be worth checking out the realtek or similar webiste for their relevant driver updates... not always the sound card or in my case graphics HD sound drivers.

[Nospheratus]

You are welcome! And very nice post; that could help people with same issue you had! Care to indicate what kind of machine was affected by that anomaly?

The motherboard is a rampage formula with an ATI Sapphire HD 4780 512MB, 8gb of ram.
EDIT: oh, and windows 7 professional 64 bit

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Lack of resources has never been the case, nor too much heat.

Something was, and I can't say for sure what it was.

[Phemt81]

Once again you fail in reading comprehension...why is this a bad thing and certainly not considered a bug, unless you like to keep parties waiting because of your lapses in concentration...

Since when a bug is considered such only when disadvantageous to players?
It's strange since you are talking about exploits all the time...

And what about lapses in concentration? Don't know what you mean boy...

SO.. I AM STILL STRUGGLING TO UNDERSTAND WHY THIS IS A BUG?... you really need to try and understand what a bug really is and perhaps try to stop whinning so much...

Me? Or were you talking to yourself maybe?

they are not paid to sort out your inability to read or to help you replace something you lost trying to exploit the game to get a second.... that's a personal fail!

1) Stop insulting me saying i am unable to read and understand, i understand perfectly what you are doing here.

2) I didn't try to exploit anything, i just want to avoid losing items talking to npcs, don't need/wanted a second item. Also accusing someone to exploit game content is against game guidelines, since exploiting material is against CoC, you are actually defaming me. Stop it.

3) It's not a fail since you are only assuming what i wanted to do.

Now if want to continue failing your education, go on this way, but i suggest you to learn some manners before talking to strangers or you won't be considered much more than a troll or a w***e attention.

Prove me wrong like you did with your last post which is good and informative, and stop taking things personal like a child.

Thanks for posting.

[Phemt81]

Reporting two bugs found by other players in order to keep them in mind if we ever meet a similar situation

Fall damage: http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=371597

New inventory bug: http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=371474

Thanks for reading.