Pali/Monk multi-classing?

[phyrak]

I've been stuck on this idea for a while.
I've been thinking that a monk/pali combination would put out a decent
amount of damage and be quite self suffiecient.

The addtion of the leveling to 7 along with 32 pt build would also give this multi-class some ground to stand
on, but I'm not too sure how to level it.

would going 4 monk/ 3 pali be good? or perhaps 5 pali/ 2 monk?

Perhaps a duel pretige could also create a higher damage output?

[FuzzyDuck81]

18pally/2monk, 12pally/8monk & 12monk/6pally/2fighter are all very popular & have their own advantages & disadvantages.

18/2 DoS is one i have & he's great.. the monk levels are purely for evasion & feats so i dont bother using wraps, just 2handers or sword & board when i'm tanking so being uncentered doesnt bother me.

12/8 is durable with decent self healing etc.. can go either ninja spy for shadow fade or light (shintao optional) for those nifty buffs & that extra smite attack.. you'll have good healing amp, aggro generation etc.

12/6/2 will have improved evasion & great healing amp... if you go earth stance 3 & DoS it'll have a decent amount of HP (though not as much as the other 2 i think) & the inherent damage resistance from earth stance even without using a shield.. plus you'll get that extra +1 multiplier on your crits which will make your fists do damage equivalent to dwarven axes but with faster attack speeds Also you can take dark monk for ToD attack

[Lifespawn]

for the vet status i'd go 5 pally 2 monk for the evasion and divine sacrafice right off the bat.

My current mix build is at 19 and i'm only going for the pally past life but i went 14 pally 4 monk 2 ftr human with the marks of passage it made leveling very easy.

I find i don't need improved evasion as i only fail any saves on a 1 and the monk attack boost plus fighter haste boost with zeal seems to put some serious hurt on.

[voodoogroves]

14 pally 6 monk - gets Zeal + Ninja Spy 1.

15 pal / 3 monk / 2 fighter - healthy dose of feats, light finishers

[cdr]

18 pally / 2 monk DoS is great. Especially as a halfelf for the monk dilly - absurd amounts of heal amp.

[elg582]

I'm currently leveling a 14/6 split, wind stance + zeal = 15% doublestrike.

My particular build is a shortsword drow ninja/DOS; it's great leveling build, but I suspect that it will be lacking end game, like most such builds.

[Dartwick]

14/6 and 18/2 are both cool builds.

[m0hawk1dwarf]

i had the idea of monk12/paladin8 aswell.

Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 03.12.01
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Level 20 Lawful Good Half-Elf Male
(8 Paladin \ 12 Monk) 
Hit Points: 392
Spell Points: 148 
BAB: 17\17\22\27\27
Fortitude: 23
Reflex: 18
Will: 19

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(34 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             15                    22
Dexterity            14                    17
Constitution         16                    19
Intelligence          8                    11
Wisdom               14                    18
Charisma             12                    16

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 3
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
+3 Tome of Strength used at level 11
+3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 11
+3 Tome of Constitution used at level 11
+3 Tome of Intelligence used at level 11
+3 Tome of Wisdom used at level 11
+3 Tome of Charisma used at level 11

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               6                    14
Bluff                 1                     3
Concentration         7                    29
Diplomacy             1                     3
Disable Device       n/a                    n/a
Haggle                1                     3
Heal                  2                     4
Hide                  2                     7
Intimidate            1                    24
Jump                  6                    12
Listen                2                     4
Move Silently         2                     7
Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
Perform               n/a                   n/a
Repair               -1                     0
Search               -1                     0
Spot                  2                     4
Swim                  2                     6
Tumble                n/a                   n/a
Use Magic Device      n/a                   n/a

Level 1 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Diehard
Feat: (Half-Elf Dilettante) Half-Elf Dilettante: Cleric
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Fighter
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Stunning Fist


Level 2 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness


Level 3 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 4 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Path) Path of Inevitable Dominion: Fists of Darkness


Level 5 (Paladin)


Level 6 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Fighting


Level 7 (Paladin)


Level 8 (Paladin)


Level 9 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack


Level 10 (Monk)


Level 11 (Monk)


Level 12 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Dodge
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting


Level 13 (Monk)


Level 14 (Monk)


Level 15 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting


Level 16 (Monk)


Level 17 (Monk)


Level 18 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 19 (Paladin)


Level 20 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Paladin Armor Class Boost I
Enhancement: Improved Cleric Dilettante I
Enhancement: Improved Cleric Dilettante II
Enhancement: Improved Cleric Dilettante III
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery II
Enhancement: Static Charge
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortoise I
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortoise II
Enhancement: Touch of Death
Enhancement: Porous Soul
Enhancement: All-Consuming Flame
Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery II
Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery III
Enhancement: Monk Ninja Spy I
Enhancement: Monk Ninja Spy II
Enhancement: Winter's Touch
Enhancement: Adept of Wind
Enhancement: Adept of Rock
Enhancement: Master of Stone
Enhancement: Paladin Courage of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Focus of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Resistance of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Righteousness I
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands I
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands II
Enhancement: Paladin Defender of Siberys I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Improved Jump I
Enhancement: Improved Jump II
Enhancement: Improved Tumble I
Enhancement: Improved Tumble II
Enhancement: Paladin Charisma I
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom I
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness I
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness II

i havent realy thought about level/feat progression. gear list atm:

[elg582]

i had the idea of monk12/paladin8 aswell.

Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 03.12.01
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Level 20 Lawful Good Half-Elf Male
(8 Paladin \ 12 Monk) 
Hit Points: 392
Spell Points: 148 
BAB: 17\17\22\27\27
Fortitude: 23
Reflex: 18
Will: 19

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(34 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             15                    22
Dexterity            14                    17
Constitution         16                    19
Intelligence          8                    11
Wisdom               14                    18
Charisma             12                    16

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 3
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
+3 Tome of Strength used at level 11
+3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 11
+3 Tome of Constitution used at level 11
+3 Tome of Intelligence used at level 11
+3 Tome of Wisdom used at level 11
+3 Tome of Charisma used at level 11

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               6                    14
Bluff                 1                     3
Concentration         7                    29
Diplomacy             1                     3
Disable Device       n/a                    n/a
Haggle                1                     3
Heal                  2                     4
Hide                  2                     7
Intimidate            1                    24
Jump                  6                    12
Listen                2                     4
Move Silently         2                     7
Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
Perform               n/a                   n/a
Repair               -1                     0
Search               -1                     0
Spot                  2                     4
Swim                  2                     6
Tumble                n/a                   n/a
Use Magic Device      n/a                   n/a

Level 1 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Diehard
Feat: (Half-Elf Dilettante) Half-Elf Dilettante: Cleric
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Fighter
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Stunning Fist


Level 2 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness


Level 3 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 4 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Path) Path of Inevitable Dominion: Fists of Darkness


Level 5 (Paladin)


Level 6 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Fighting


Level 7 (Paladin)


Level 8 (Paladin)


Level 9 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack


Level 10 (Monk)


Level 11 (Monk)


Level 12 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Dodge
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting


Level 13 (Monk)


Level 14 (Monk)


Level 15 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting


Level 16 (Monk)


Level 17 (Monk)


Level 18 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 19 (Paladin)


Level 20 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Paladin Armor Class Boost I
Enhancement: Improved Cleric Dilettante I
Enhancement: Improved Cleric Dilettante II
Enhancement: Improved Cleric Dilettante III
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery II
Enhancement: Static Charge
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortoise I
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortoise II
Enhancement: Touch of Death
Enhancement: Porous Soul
Enhancement: All-Consuming Flame
Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery II
Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery III
Enhancement: Monk Ninja Spy I
Enhancement: Monk Ninja Spy II
Enhancement: Winter's Touch
Enhancement: Adept of Wind
Enhancement: Adept of Rock
Enhancement: Master of Stone
Enhancement: Paladin Courage of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Focus of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Resistance of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Righteousness I
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands I
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands II
Enhancement: Paladin Defender of Siberys I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Improved Jump I
Enhancement: Improved Jump II
Enhancement: Improved Tumble I
Enhancement: Improved Tumble II
Enhancement: Paladin Charisma I
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom I
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness I
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness II

i havent realy thought about level/feat progression. gear list atm:

The problem there is that 8 paladin only gets you a 2nd level spell; have you looked at the list? Not much to choose from, and nothing you want. 12 monk/6 paladin/2 fighter...

[m0hawk1dwarf]

The problem there is that 8 paladin only gets you a 2nd level spell; have you looked at the list? Not much to choose from, and nothing you want. 12 monk/6 paladin/2 fighter...

i didnt go for 8 paladin because of level 2 spells, but becasue of extra lay on hands :3 i dont realy see what 2 figther levels give other then a haste and another overkill thougness feat?

[Khellendros13]

i didnt go for 8 paladin because of level 2 spells, but becasue of extra lay on hands :3 i dont realy see what 2 figther levels give other then a haste and another overkill thougness feat?

Fighter doesn't get Toughness as a free feat. Haste boost combined with Dmg boost is all kinds of awesome, and the Strength 1 could save 2ap on a Human or Helf, or even it out anyway on any other race. More HP is always welcome on a Monk hybrid tank.

[elg582]

i didnt go for 8 paladin because of level 2 spells, but becasue of extra lay on hands :3 i dont realy see what 2 figther levels give other then a haste and another overkill thougness feat?

Haste boost is awesome.

For feats, improved sunder, weapon focus:bludgeoning, and stunning blow all come to mind, or use them for power attack and twf to free up other feat slots.