New Player Raid Training – Abbot

[PlaneswalkerJP]

I'd like to join Saturday if possible.

Chalinha - Lvl20 evoker FVS human.

I have a little problem to understand these times, 11MST means -7GMT, -6GMT or anything else on GMT?

[Grieve]

I'd like to join Saturday if possible.

Chalinha - Lvl20 evoker FVS human.

I have a little problem to understand these times, 11MST means -7GMT, -6GMT or anything else on GMT?

Due to Daylight Savings Time in the US, MST (or MDT right now) is equivalent to GMT-6. In other words, 1100 (11am) MST right now is 1700 (5pm) GMT.

Hope that helps.

[Guenalicious]

Tobril as always, please let me know if you need a cleric, and I'll be more then happy to help ya ;-)

[Tobril]

I always wanted to run this raid, and those raid training topics are great for learning. I only have two options right now:

Flag herweg, get an epic mournland maul.
Respec Mecanico to earth savant again, farm epic rock boots, recraft a featherfall item of jump (my old ff was on boots)
Flag Arquera, get the new blunt bow for her.

So, my sorc is the only one flagged, but respeccing him to abbot will require a bunch of farming. My other 2 toons need to flag, and farm one item. I have a rogue too, but I would not even try to set step with him on Abbot (200% fortification? Sure).

I'll see what I can do this weekend to be ready for the next.
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I found out the topic because after the ToD training I'm stalking every "new player raid training" topic on sarlona forums.

That's three options, you're trying to trick me!

Also, which session do you want?

And a air savant elec/cold specced can do something on abbot? I mean, the only spell I could land when the lich was lurking into the extraplanar palace was disintegrate.

That was a serious question. I know zilch about abbot raid besides "know a puzzle or don't join"

Your options are not fantastic on an air sorc. Slots and spec certainly make a difference here.

I would look at the previous spell suggestions in this thread for some inspiration.

There are also rocks to throw and wanding to handle, so worst case scenario your sorc can serve a vital role even if his DPS contribution is a bit lacking for this particular monster.

[Tobril]

You can count on me as well Tobril. I've been dying to get an Abbot raid in the last month or so. I'll bring Ormadil, since he is the only one that I have flagged.

Which session?

[Tobril]

Tobril as always, please let me know if you need a cleric, and I'll be more then happy to help ya ;-)

<3



Also, added more people.

If I missed you it's because you're short. Jump up and down to catch my attention and I'll put you on the list.

[nibel]

That's three options, you're trying to trick me!

Also, which session do you want?

I'll work out the flagging this weekend. For now, mark Mecanico to thursday, and Herweg to saturday (since saturday looks like it is overflowing with casters). I'll keep you updated when I finish the flagging, or monday.

And if one of the groups don't fill in, hey, two puzzles to learn!

Your options are not fantastic on an air sorc. Slots and spec certainly make a difference here.

I would look at the previous spell suggestions in this thread for some inspiration.

There are also rocks to throw and wanding to handle, so worst case scenario your sorc can serve a vital role even if his DPS contribution is a bit lacking for this particular monster.

So, get buffs, throw stones, and/or create platforms. Looks like a plan to me. I'll try to at least get the rock boots and change polar ray to BDB to not feel completely useless.

[PlaneswalkerJP]

Due to Daylight Savings Time in the US, MST (or MDT right now) is equivalent to GMT-6. In other words, 1100 (11am) MST right now is 1700 (5pm) GMT.

Hope that helps.

It helps a lot. Tyvm

Also, Tobril add another player called Zhons to raid, he is a guildie that would like to learn also. He is a Ranger 17/Monk 2/Rogue 1, one of those builds with a lot of CA, self-heal, UMD, etc... I think is exploit people call it.

[Tazar]

If I can get Antaka flagged in time I would love to get in on the Saturday slot. He's a 20 light monk.

I've been checking the Sarlona forums ever since you started this, just incase you did any uk friendly ones. I just gotta convince someone to show me hox and vod now

[Culver.Civello]

Got all my Sigil pieces finally after grinding out quest like crazy trying to get my right pincer. Now for some Litany.

**Edit: And... Officially flagged.

[TorGrimorde]

And if you don't mind another light monk I'd like to bring Hymm, level 20 light monk, along to the Saturday session :-)

[djl]

I'd love to come, but Saturday is the day of my last final

[DarkForte]

I'll bring Ekkehart, my pale master, for the one on the weekend.

Tobril? Why did you ignore me???? I'm sorry, whatever I did! D:

[Jondera]

Sign Dhavia up for the Saturday run. Completely unflagged, but I should hopefully be able to fix that in time.

[Erruun]

This is the only raid I dont know really well. Would love to bring my wizzy (sparkstar). Put me down for Saturday.

PS he is all flagged up

[Tobril]

It helps a lot. Tyvm

Also, Tobril add another player called Zhons to raid, he is a guildie that would like to learn also. He is a Ranger 17/Monk 2/Rogue 1, one of those builds with a lot of CA, self-heal, UMD, etc... I think is exploit people call it.

Which session?


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Also, added more people.

Feel free to sign up even if a group looks full, often times
people can't make a run for whatever reason so alternates
have a good chance to get into the session.

[Morosy]

I guess I should probably go ahead and sign up. Saw the main thread early on and decided to follow it in case Abbot ever popped up on the schedule.

I can bring Morosy, a 20 Earth Savant, for the Thursday run.

[PlaneswalkerJP]

Which session?


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Also, added more people.

Feel free to sign up even if a group looks full, often times
people can't make a run for whatever reason so alternates
have a good chance to get into the session.

Same as mine, on Saturday

[Stermlin]

Anyone else log on today thinking it was THIS Saturday?

/sigh

Guess I can wait one more week.

[Grieve]

For quick reference, when guiding players in the goggles challenge in Abbot it is useful to give the player who will be following/mirroring you an idea of exactly what they will be expected to do when being guided across. Based on that, I have used a syntax that can be used to quickly and efficient convey the path a player will take when being guided across the chasm in goggles. I realize I'm not the first one to do this, but for players that have never seen it here is something you can use.

Here is an example that makes use of all aspects of the current syntax I use when mirroring a player across.

Row 2 - AS 2 B 1 2F 3 B B 2 1 Finish

Here is a breakdown of the example just given.
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Row 2: This is the row the player will start from. (This portion may be left out is the player have already communicated this information
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AS: This stands for Abundant Step or Abundant Step-like ability (Wind Dance, Leap of Faith, or Propulsion Boots). This should primarily be used to start or end a sequence, but may be used during a sequence. An AS will send a player the length of 2 tiles (ie. skip over 1 tile).
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2: The player will be moving 2 tiles before pausing or row changing.
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B: The player will be making a row change backwards from Row 2 to Row 3.
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1: The player will be moving 1 tile before pausing or row changing.
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2F: The player will be making a row change forwards from Row 3 to Row 1.
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3: The player will be moving 3 tiles before pausing or row changing.
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B: The player will be making a row change backwards from Row 1 to Row 2.
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B: The player will be making a row change backwards from Row 2 to Row 3.
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2: The player will be moving 2 tiles before pausing or row changing.
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1: The player will be moving 1 tile before pausing or row changing.
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Finish: The Player will finish their run across the chasm and complete.

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How does a player make a successful row change?

A successful row change can be achieved in a couple ways, striding or tumbling.
Striding - To shift 1 row via striding requires a player to move forward/backward about 4 of it's character's strides (about 3 seconds if player have 30% striding boots and is not hasted).
Tumbling - To row change using tumble requires a player to tumble forward/backward a certain number of times depending on their tumble. (The Tumble skill value may shifts the estimates given below slightly.)
*Striding Tumble: about 4 times to shift 1 row
*Rolling Tumble: about 2 times to shift 1 row
*Dive/Flip Tumble: about 1 time to shift 1 row

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-Please note some subtle differences in certain variations such as, "B B" would be different than "2B". The main difference to note here is that "B B" signifies a pause between the 2 row changes, whereas 2B requires the player to shift 2 rows backwards without a pause between each row change.

-Another thing to remember is if AS is used it will require the player to face the far end of the chasm use the ability and then turn back to facing you unless they setup to follow you facing the end of the chasm.

-If the guided player prefers to face the end of the chasm instead of facing and mirroring the guiding player, the syntax changes slightly to match the new frame of reference. (ie. B & F are replaced with L (left) & R (right) for the row changes)

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Hopefully the description of this syntax will help players when they are doing goggles.