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    Default Pale Master Lvl 4 spell loadout

    So I am working up the TR on my wizard, went from a warforged AM to a Pale Master.

    Never realized how tight that 4th level spot is for pale masters!

    Neg Energy burst, Death Aura, Firewall, Ice Storm, Stoneskin, Dimension door, Enervate....


    What do you pale masters load out on your 4th level spots?

    I'm sorta thinking:

    Death Aura
    Neg Burst
    DDoor
    Stoneskin
    .... and one AOE, firewall for levelling...

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    Not sure if this matters to you, I am a human PM.

    Must Have:
    Neg Energy
    Death Aura

    WF: Is this a must have?
    ~ Repair Critical (for Warforged, or only need/use Reconstruct? I have not played WF PM yet)

    Damage:
    Acid Rain (have some acid spec)
    Ice Storm (am ice spec), Firewall when I was leveling

    Swap when needed:
    D Door
    Fire Shield (when Cloak of Ice not available)
    Enervation - until get Energy Drain

    Replaced: These have helped with the choice a ton!
    Stoneskin - wand from the12 (can also use a GreenSteel clicky)
    PK - wand from the12
    ** I did not know about these until recently, so I gave the poster (in another thread) +1 for the info **
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    Full time:
    Death Aura
    NEB

    AOE of choice:
    Ice Storm (for me, Ice specked)

    2 Utility:
    Fire Shield
    D Door

    I switch out DDoor for firewall when Shadow tanking in ToD.

    Took me a bit to decide but it depends more on the quests you run a lot. Love the versatility of the wizard.

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    as a PM, you definitely want both neg spells.

    FW is always great for undead, even if it's not your focused element. it's also very efficient for SP.

    fire shield is available as a scroll, so i would just keep a stack of those on you instead of the spell. the benefits are the same, just a shorter duration.

    stoneskin is good if you end up drawing a lot of aggro, but if you are only lvl 10 or so, wands from the 12 will work just as fine, and save you SP when buffing the party. in later lvls, your casted spell will be more effective by a good margin.

    ddoor is situational, and you will just have to know when it's best to mem it.

    IMO, unless you have a focus in the cold elemental AOE, don't bother with anything other than FW. acid rain can be a waste since it has a short duration - 8 secs - but i tend to stack it on top of my FWs for extra damage since i have acid manipulation.

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    Ice Storm is boosted by the higher of ice or force; I spec the first tier in most for flexibility, but more in force and acid mostly for Black Dragon Bolt, Disintegrate and an option for Acid Rain / Ice Storm. Also works with Meteor Swarm.
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    my lvl 4 spells at lvl 20:

    death aura
    neg energy burst
    crushing despair
    bestow curse
    ddoor (or PK if i remember to slot it)

    while lvling i started using aura and NEB at lvl 12 with wraith form. already did carry firewall, icestorm (like to carry both and use which one is better) and ddoor. never bothered with stoneskin, as the miss chance from being incorporal and blured/displaced was enough. and you can get fireshield scrolls.
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    Quote Originally Posted by voodoogroves View Post
    Ice Storm is boosted by the higher of ice or force
    perhaps i'm misunderstanding this, or maybe its new to me, but ice storm does cold and bludgeon damage.

    the bludgeon, as far as i knew, wasn't affected by force manipulation.

    if this is the case, that'd be great, but i'm unaware of it.

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    At cap i'm usually too lazy to switch spells layout much so i use:

    - Death aura, self explanatory
    - NEB, ditto
    - DDoor, soooo handy and scrolls are expensive and rare
    - Fireshield, eVelah, eChrono, ToD etc. too versatile to pass and scrolls aren't handy for longer fight (even if it's not a must and you could do with your scrolls)
    - IceStorm, any persistent AoE dmg here depending on spec, i usually end up cold main so IS it is.

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    At cap:

    Death Aura (MUST-HAVE)
    NEB (MUST-HAVE)
    DDoor (MUST-HAVE; or you gotta have lots of patience collecting scrolls)
    Crushing Despair (Decent CC; if you got Mindfog this can be something else)
    Ice Storm (MUST-HAVE; best combo with Web, invest in ice/force lines for greater benefits from DoT/Disintegrate as well)

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    *** DDoor is a MUST-HAVE, not a situational swap - You never know beforehand if the adventure's gonna gone pear-shaped.

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    Fire Shield: Use clickies/scrolls.
    Stoneskin: Use clickies/wands.
    FW: Ditch it.
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    Lev 4 for pale masters is extremely harsh.

    At cap any of the below spells have some uses.

    death aura
    neg energy burst
    ddoor
    stoneskin
    fireshield
    crushing despair
    bestow curse
    pk
    acidrain/firewall/icestorm depending on spec
    burning blood (high dmg on orange named epic mobs that have no resistance to either type, also good for a deathwarded non resistant mob like the drow priestesses in the new quests, better than the dots for first 15 seconds long enough to kill most of these type mobs)

    This spell level is where a caster willing to swap and manage their spell lists can make the most difference.
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    I have:
    DA
    NEB
    DDoor
    Ice Storm
    Crushing Despair

    I scroll fireshield and use Crushing Despair as swap spot for situational spells.
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    Level 4 has some really great spells, especially necromancy spells. I use:

    Death Aura
    Wall of Fire
    Dimension Door
    Contagion

    Contagion is good because it has it's own spell list to choose from and the spells work great. Blinding Sickness and Slimy Doom are my favorites.

    Two others that are good to use are Enervation and Burning Blood.

    Stone Skin and Remove Curse are easier to use as wands, imo

    And Repair Critical would be great for you if you're playing a warforge.

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    Death Aura (duh), NEB, Firewall/Acid Rain/Ice Storm (staple), Dimension Door (staple), Crushing Despair (very useful when your enchantment DCs are not that great, and even better if they are. Hypnotism + crushing despair + mass hold is a winner). You might think that you don't need NEB. It's a trap.

    Stoneskin? Can be used through wands.
    PK? It's a mediocre spell at the level you get it due to low hp mobs (fire(b)walling everything is much more efficient most of the time), and completely surpassed by circle of death/finger/wail once you get the first one.
    Fire Shield? Can be scrolled. Annoying, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wax_on_wax_off View Post
    I have:
    DA
    NEB
    DDoor
    Ice Storm
    Crushing Despair
    This is pretty much my list, although at least half the time I have acid rain in place of Crushing Despair. I love acid rain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dean.rys View Post
    perhaps i'm misunderstanding this, or maybe its new to me, but ice storm does cold and bludgeon damage.

    the bludgeon, as far as i knew, wasn't affected by force manipulation.

    if this is the case, that'd be great, but i'm unaware of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wax_on_wax_off View Post
    I have:
    DA
    NEB
    DDoor
    Ice Storm
    Crushing Despair

    I scroll fireshield and use Crushing Despair as swap spot for situational spells.
    Same with me, only I use ice storm as a swap, it does meh damage at best, and there's other stuff to grab aggro with. CD is absolutely brilliant in any content where you use DCs and spell pen isn't an issue.
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