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    Default Please respec all rogue hirelings!

    Personally, I have never said to myself, "Hey, self, wouldn't it be useful to buy a thief-acrobat with my Turbine Points?"


    I have also never said, "Isn't it great that I can use Turbine Points to buy a rogue assassin in the store?"



    Seriously, Turbine, if I use TP to buy a rogue, I want them to DISARM TRAPS. That's it. If they can't do that then I have wasted my money. Lots of them can't do that on elite quests at level.

    Please respec them all into mechanics. That's all anyone wants when they use TP to buy a rogue anyway.


    And having ANY rogue hireling who can't find and disarm traps at level is griefing the players. It would be like having cleric hirelings with 8 Wisdom who can't cast any healing spells.


    Edited to add: Please respec all rogue hirelings into mechanics AND put skill boost on their hot bar. Not haste boost, SKILL BOOST. Thank you.
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    Don't even necessarily have to be mechanics!
    just up their int stat
    give them the highest DD/OL/Search/Spot skill items that they can get
    make it to where they auto use skill boost when you have them search for a trap (but make it an unlimited use or have them be able to use it 7 times)

    the reason that rogue hires aren't able to do traps at lvl is because they "supposedly" have a feat:
    Hireling Trap ReflexesGrants you a +20 bonus on your Reflex saves vs. Traps because you are too dumb to move out of the way.

    well.... can you see something a little wrong with a rogue ~one of the highest base reflex saves~ having this feat + evasion + trap disarming skills?
    currently rogues are the only ones with this feat and evasion, which was supposed to make them fairly durable
    but people get the hireling for its trap skills, so ya turbine fix this or we wont buy your rogue hirelings anymore (less money for you)
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    I swear the hirelings are generated out of the same style of random loot generator that gives us things like Vorpal Greataxe of Slowburst and Banishing Shortsword of Greater Undead Bane etc....

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    level 9 rogue was unable to do gwylan's elite (level 9 quest) without a GH.

    I assumed he should be able to -> a level 8 rogue can EASILY get gwylan's traps with just normal DD items and +5 tools.
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    LOL I am so glad I read this post before buying the Rogue. I wondered why the slave vendors didnt sell rogues along the other classes & then I found out why....Turbine wants to make money off of them because everyone needs traps disarmed! Suprised they dont put the Clerics on the store too.
    Was going to buy one of the rogues just to see if they were viable for solo dungoneering, but thanks to you guys, I'll be saving a few TP
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    Quote Originally Posted by XiliX_Lifebain View Post
    LOL I am so glad I read this post before buying the Rogue. I wondered why the slave vendors didnt sell rogues along the other classes & then I found out why....Turbine wants to make money off of them because everyone needs traps disarmed! Suprised they dont put the Clerics on the store too.
    Was going to buy one of the rogues just to see if they were viable for solo dungoneering, but thanks to you guys, I'll be saving a few TP
    I don't mind them being store only so they can justify the dev time spent creating them (especially when they first came out, it would be nice to have them go into the hireling vendors eventually) however, I am going to /sign to get them all trap specced. Put their enhancement points into improved search and disable even. Anything to improve their ability to disable traps. In addition to skill boost in the hotbar I would like to see search and disable so we can manually make them do it when needed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by morticianjohn View Post
    I don't mind them being store only so they can justify the dev time spent creating them (especially when they first came out, it would be nice to have them go into the hireling vendors eventually) however, I am going to /sign to get them all trap specced. Put their enhancement points into improved search and disable even. Anything to improve their ability to disable traps. In addition to skill boost in the hotbar I would like to see search and disable so we can manually make them do it when needed.
    All of the hireling rogues currently have Search and Disable (the gear button) on their hotbars.


    Some, however, do not have Skill Boost, and some are specced as assassins or thief-acrobats. Hopefully that will change at some point and anyone who buys a rogue hireling with TP, even for something as absurdly rare as doing a level 6 quest with level 8 characters (yes, that is sarcasm), will be getting a rogue that can spot, search, and then disarm all traps on elite.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mobrien316 View Post
    Personally, I have never said to myself, "Hey, self, wouldn't it be useful to buy a thief-acrobat with my Turbine Points?"


    I have also never said, "Isn't it great that I can use Turbine Points to buy a rogue assassin in the store?"



    Seriously, Turbine, if I use TP to buy a rogue, I want them to DISARM TRAPS. That's it. If they can't do that then I have wasted my money. Lots of them can't do that on elite quests at level.

    Please respec them all into mechanics. That's all anyone wants when they use TP to buy a rogue anyway.


    And having ANY rogue hireling who can't find and disarm traps at level is griefing the players. It would be like having cleric hirelings with 8 Wisdom who can't cast any healing spells.


    Edited to add: Please respec all rogue hirelings into mechanics AND put skill boost on their hot bar. Not haste boost, SKILL BOOST. Thank you.
    I agree, we don't need dps rogue hirelings, we need trap monkeys.

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    Kelorn Gossinar - Lvl 5 Rogue Hireling - Rogue Mech {Has Mechanic Repair Construct on his bar - Love to know how to get the Prestige at lvl 5?}.

    Kirsten Steel - Lvl 6 Rogue Hireling - Acrobat - Very high Strength {Does Stat Runes} Also incredibly high HP for a hire - DO NOT expect her to get elite traps without Augment Summoning, GH and Fox's Cunning.

    Shadow - Lvl 8 Rogue - Acrobat - For some reason has zero reflex save - Can disarm traps no problem if he doesn't die in said trap.

    Corbin Kohl - Lvl 9 Rogue - Believe Assassin specced {not sure} - Completely borked - Was great before first update after Rogue hirelings were brought in.

    Fira Greylocke - Lvl 13 Rogue Hireling - Rogue Mech - The best Rogue Hireling available currently in my opinion.

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