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    There needs to be some sort of alternate reward than a Bound-to-Character +2 tome for achieving 1750 favor, or at least change them to Bound-to-Account. Especially now that TR-ing does not wipe your tome history, but even before that, people who paid for a +2 Tome of Supreme Ability should not be penalised compared to others.
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    There is an alternate reward. 9 BtA purified eberron dragonshards.
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    last time i got that much favor on my main, i didn't have that option yet. so now i'm stuck with a tome i can't use. ever.

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    I believe that any +2 tome, no matter when you got it, bound or not, can be traded for the purified dragonshards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matuse View Post
    There is an alternate reward. 9 BtA purified eberron dragonshards.
    I did not get that as an option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Komitulek View Post
    There needs to be some sort of alternate reward than a Bound-to-Character +2 tome for achieving 1750 favor, or at least change them to Bound-to-Account. Especially now that TR-ing does not wipe your tome history, but even before that, people who paid for a +2 Tome of Supreme Ability should not be penalised compared to others.
    I disagree, especially with the claim that people buying +2 Tomes of Supreme ability are getting penalized... that is mind boggling.

    If you choose to buy the supreme tome you know up front that all other +2 tomes are not needed. The 1750 favor reward tome is a bonus... read that again, BONUS! The primary point is to unlock 32 pt builds on that server.

    I think that people are getting too caught up with that they are entitled to a +2 Tome because of the favor reward. If it didnt give new players a chance to acquire a +2 tome I would be all for just removing it altogether. Its been the cause of too much useless drama and entitlement as of late.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Komitulek View Post
    I did not get that as an option.

    He meant you can take that +2 tome and trade it in at the crafting center for the shards.
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    would be better if they could make it bta instead of btc.. i mean even this character don't need it doesn't mean new character don't..

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    last time i got that much favor on my main, i didn't have that option yet. so now i'm stuck with a tome i can't use. ever.
    I did not get that as an option.
    Take the +2 tome out of the bank, go over to House K or C, speak to the vendors inside the crafting hall.

    Say "I would like to trade essences"

    Put +2 tome into barter box.

    Press "Trade".

    Voila!
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    Quote Originally Posted by decease View Post
    would be better if they could make it bta instead of btc.. i mean even this character don't need it doesn't mean new character don't..
    That would mean another character can get two or more tomes from 1750 favor, so no go.

    Maybe what would be nice is - if you consume a tome when you already have a better one consumed before:
    i) give one time experience points, or
    ii) give a temporary exceptional attribute increase that lasts through deaths for 6 hours (or something to that effect making tomes expensive consumables).

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    Quote Originally Posted by qoolboxer View Post
    That would mean another character can get two or more tomes from 1750 favor, so no go.

    Maybe what would be nice is - if you consume a tome when you already have a better one consumed before:
    i) give one time experience points, or
    ii) give a temporary exceptional attribute increase that lasts through deaths for 6 hours (or something to that effect making tomes expensive consumables).
    god are you kidding? i mean by the time you reach 1750 favor most likely you already pull several +2 tome from quest already..

    if you do well you might even find +3 or +4 tome.. what is wrong with passing tome to another toon on the same account?

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    duh god, are you kidding? What is wrong, obviously, is that your new toon is going to get multiple +2 tomes from that same favor reward that others are only getting one. BTC is an anti-abuse mechanism. The 1750 reward is actually Champion unlock, the tome is a BONUS for that character achieving that favor milestone so BTC is definitely correct. Otherwise going by your argument, no BTC items need ever exist, just make them BTA...

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    Quote Originally Posted by qoolboxer View Post
    duh god, are you kidding? What is wrong, obviously, is that your new toon is going to get multiple +2 tomes from that same favor reward that others are only getting one. BTC is an anti-abuse mechanism. The 1750 reward is actually Champion unlock, the tome is a BONUS for that character achieving that favor milestone so BTC is definitely correct. Otherwise going by your argument, no BTC items need ever exist, just make them BTA...
    you make it sound like +2 tome are rare like +4 ones.. when you have a character 20 you can run some twelve to get +2 tome easy.. not like there are no other way getting it. plus tome don't worth much in market so you could buy them with plat

    most of the btc item are either 1) high end 2)raid loot and +2 tome are neither by any standard..plus +2 tome wear out very soon, am sure most people will want better tome before they reaching 20..

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    Well, great that you don't find +2 tomes rare nor expensive. Then in that case, all the more what is the pain of getting BTC tome here - you can easily get the tomes that you need to twink your new toon, easily, via other means...

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    Quote Originally Posted by qoolboxer View Post
    Well, great that you don't find +2 tomes rare nor expensive. Then in that case, all the more what is the pain of getting BTC tome here - you can easily get the tomes that you need to twink your new toon, easily, via other means...
    then what is the point of rewarding a tome that you will never be using? just trying to find a use for this.. sigh.. oh well if you really want this tome to be useless then so be it~~

    p.s. if you ever tr you will notice you get one of these every time you tr..
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    then what is the point of rewarding a tome that you will never be using?
    What's the point of awarding Drow and Veteran status over and over? If you're a multiple TR, odds are you have piles of unbound +2 tomes sitting around. I do, and I've barely TR'd at all. I have a mule with 2 inventory pages holding nothing but assorted unbound +2 tomes that I've picked up as quest rewards and from chests.

    Turn the tome into purified dragonshards. Problem solved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matuse View Post
    What's the point of awarding Drow and Veteran status over and over? If you're a multiple TR, odds are you have piles of unbound +2 tomes sitting around. I do, and I've barely TR'd at all. I have a mule with 2 inventory pages holding nothing but assorted unbound +2 tomes that I've picked up as quest rewards and from chests.

    Turn the tome into purified dragonshards. Problem solved.
    drow and vet are not item, tome is. if they are going to reward it, it might be reasonable to make it some sort useful. instead of trash item which you destroy to make inventory. don't really see why people are so against it, don't see how it possible break game balance. might make +2 tome a little cheaper in the market, but thats about it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fomori View Post
    I disagree, especially with the claim that people buying +2 Tomes of Supreme ability are getting penalized... that is mind boggling.

    If you choose to buy the supreme tome you know up front that all other +2 tomes are not needed. The 1750 favor reward tome is a bonus... read that again, BONUS! The primary point is to unlock 32 pt builds on that server.
    The 6th anniversary cakes are a freebie/bonus too, but look how bent out of shape thousands of people are getting over those. At least 1750 favour is something that has to be earned. There are other ways to unlock 32 point builds (and not just on one server), and plenty of people who take that route.

    It's not as if everyone can just use Purified Dragonshards, 1750 is a lot of work but not as much as being able to use those shards.
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