THE LoB Tank All the HP's

[ayondie]

Takeitintheface
THE Lob Tank (TR1x)
Human 20 fighter
See Post 2 for enhancements

So i suppose i should probably explain the build....
The concept is a healer friendly tank, being fleshie, with high intim, dr, and physical damage resistance while shield blocking. This build will use bastard swords and tower shield mostly at end game but since we took the thf line that means we can use any two hander while leveling. This builds main weapon will be the epic chimera's fang from Sentinels. I would use that with a Levik's defender for the best result. With hate generation once you have aggro you should be able to hold it and also shield block when needed. It might be needed to grab aggro with a greatsword first then shield block but either way you shouldnt have to worry about losing aggro.

This build will be under the assumption of at least 1 past life of paladin.

Str: 16 +2 ship +7 item +3 tome +6 stance +3 enhancement +5 levels +3 abishai +2 Excep = 47 (+18)
Dex: 8 +2 ship +6 item +2 tome = 18 (+4)
Con: 18 +2 ship +7 item +3 tome +6 stance +3 excep +1enhancement = 40 (+15) +2 yugo = 42 (+16)
Int: 10 +2 tome -1 item = 11 (+1)
Wis: 8 +2 ship +6 item +2 tome -1 item = 17 (+3)
Cha: 14 +2 ship +7 item +3 tome = 26 (+8)

HP:
200 levels
300 con
20 char creation (hero)
112toughness feat x5
30 racial toughness 3
40 Fighter Toughness 4
20 toughness item
10 Draconic Vitality
40 Superior False Life (Epic Cavalry Plate)
45 gs hp item
Subtotal = 817
+40 yugo
20% SD 3
= 1024 hp roughly


Feats: Should Be Roughly 19 (This Should be Fun)

FB = Fight Bonus (some feats taken arent fighter bonus feats and need to be taken at the appropriate feat break)

1)Human: Least Dragonmark
1) Char Creation:Toughness
1) Fighter Bonus:THF
2) FB: WF Slashing
3)Toughness
4) FB:PA
6)Lesser Dragonmark
6) FB: Shield Mastery
8) FB:ITHF
9) Toughness
10) FB: WS: Slashing
12)Toughness
12) FB:GTHF
14) FB:GWF: Slashing
15)Toughness
16) FB: Improved Shield Mastery
18)FB: GWS: Slashing
18) Greater Dragonmark
20)FB:SWF: Slashing

Skills: Intim and Balance (or UMD)

Intimidate Breakdown:

23 ranks
20 brawns
8 cha
6 gs cha item
5 claw gloves
2 dragonmark
4 enhancement (deneith intimidation)
6 SD 3
4 improved intim enhancement
4 GH
2 Good Luck
1 Ship Buff
2 Coin Lord Favor
= 87 intim.

Gear Thus Far:

Weapon: Epic Chimeras Fang // Possibly Alchemical GS, or Falchion when not tanking or when aggro is needed to grab quickly.
Shield: Leviks//+4 Tower of Bashing Large Slot (Hp 20) or +5 Tower Life Shield of Melee Alacrity- Large Slot (20 hp)/Generic +5 Tower etc. anything will work well here
Armor: Epic Cavalry Plate
Trinket: Epic Brawns
Gloves: Epic Claw
Bracers Con-Op GS
Neck: Kensai Necklace
Goggle: GS CHA Item
Boots:Epic Abishai
Belt: Epic Belt of Mronanon
Ring1:Kensai (Slot +2 Str)
Ring2: ToD Ring Dex +6 Slotted: Healing Amp
Cloak:Epic Abishai
Helm:Epic Abishai

Slots: Yellow: Possibly Feather Fall, cant think of really anything better.
Green: Good Luck, 2 free slot
Blue: Greater Nimbeleness
Colorless: Excep Con +1

Healing Amp:
20% Human
30% Claw
20% ToD Ring Slotted
5% Past Life Paladin
10% Ship Buff
Total = 1.2*1.3*1.2*1.05*1.10 = 216% Roughly

Threat Generation:
10% Chimeras
15% Chimeras
20% Chimeras
75% SD 3
75% Shield

Sub Total = 195% Extra Threat Roughly
100% base + 195 % Extra + 100% on Succesful Intim

Grand Total of 395%

Physical Damage Resistance: 25% From Improved Shield Mastery
DR 6- SD 3
DR 9 - Shield Blocking
DR 5/Chaotic Cavalry Plate
DR 1/- Ship Buff ( Not Calculating out a Late Entry lol)

Should Still be a dr of 16 .. im not good at dr breakdowns so this is just a rough guess.

[ayondie]

Enhancements:

Prereqs for SD3:
AC Boost I - 1
Improved Intim II- 2
Item Defense I- 1
AC Boost II- 2
Item Defense II- 2
AC Boost III- 3
SD III- 8

So Far: 19

Hitpoint/ Stat Boost Enhancements:

Human Toughness III- 6
Fighter Toughness IV - 10
Human Adapt Str - 2
Gtr. Human Adapt Con. - 4
Improv. Recovery III - 12

Subtotal - 53

Intimidate:

Deneith Intim (Dragonmark) IV- 4
Fighter Intim. IV- 4

Subtotal - 61

Misc Fighter Stat Boost/Clickies/Strategy

Haste IV - 10
Ftr Str. II- 6
Capstone - 2
Improv Trip I (Fill in a gap)- 1

Grand Total - 80

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Any questions, concerns, comments are welcome and appreciated i built this in my opinion to be the best LoB tank possible with good healing amp and excellent threat generation. Not to mention the fact he'll have over 1000 hp buffed; sustainable around 940 without yugo.

I did not do an ac breakdown as i was not building for AC if someone would like to take the time and work it out they can be my guest otherwise i will not bother. I am more concerned with HP, guards, threat and intim at this point.

[giggiddy]

THE Lob Tank (TR1x)
So assuming with are hit say 9 times thats = 2583 after DR
So for every in 9 hits we gain 60 hp back every 3 hits.
What does this mean it means in those 9 hits we healed ourselves for about 60 damage giving us a total
Damage reduction to 2583 (60 hp back) 2563 damage from the original 3600. Thats equivalent of 2 heal spells
or about 5 scrolls accordingly.

Cool insight, never thought of it this way. But then again I hate math.

[Blank_Zero]

Good Luck is Blue. It will not go in a Yellow Slot.

[ayondie]

Good Luck is Blue. It will not go in a Yellow Slot.

noted ..will do

@ giggiddy -- slot on brawns also noted.

Thanks for all insight so far guys.

[giggiddy]

I put my good luck on the Brawns Spirit since the +2 I am looking for mostly is the intim

[Moltier]

Threat Generation:
10% Brawns
10% Chimeras
15% Chimeras
15% SD 3 Set Bonus
20% Chimeras
75% SD 3
20% Claw Set
Total = 1.1*1.1*1.15*1.15*1.2*1.75-1.2 = 403% Threat Roughly

I doubt it work like that.
Instead, the multipliers adds up.
10%+15%+20%+75%+75%=195% extra hate (295% with your base)
Reasons behind the math:
Same bonus numbers on items dont stack (Brawn with chimera, Claw with chimera, etc), but enhancement bonuses do (+75% from shield and +75% from stance, or x% from orc).

And a simple example why they dont multiply each other:
I have a character who have low dps, but high hate. If hate would multiply itself, it would be 2*2*1.55*1.25=775% (100%robe, 100%pala, 55%monk, 25%palistance)
With a single TOD, which do ~550 damage overall (TWF, doublestrike, base damage), i would generate 4250+ hate. From a single attack. Thats enough to hold aggro for 7-10 seconds vs top geared fighters without incite.
I see no such thing in game.

[ayondie]

Posts 1 and 2 of build edited:

Post 1 fixed minor gear errors, mainly slots of stalwart TOD gear. Fixed few minor typos. Also added Toughness IV since AP allows it being Stalwart isnt AP heavy. Adjusted Hp Accordingly. Also adjusted thrat calcs as i was in the wrong. Thanks to @Moltier for his assistance.

Post 2 now contains enhancements/breakdown.

[ayondie]

@Moltier thank for bringing this to my attention this will affect gear setup in a couple spots.

I found this post (Dev Confirmation on how threat works): http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p...0&postcount=23

I'll be sure to spread some rep around at the best opportunity.

[whomhead]

FB = Fight Bonus (some feats taken arent fighter bonus feats and need to be taken at the appropriate feat break)

...

12) FB:Toughness

Can't take toughness as a fighter bonus feat. But I think you'll still have enough HP...

[ayondie]

Can't take toughness as a fighter bonus feat. But I think you'll still have enough HP...

oh no i'll make it work idk how but ill figure out the proper order lol. the goal is to be able to keep over 1000 at all times. i was comfy at 900 but i want to able to about 5 hits in the face from lob.. need over 1000 for that

[DragonMageT]

oh no i'll make it work idk how but ill figure out the proper order lol. the goal is to be able to keep over 1000 at all times. i was comfy at 900 but i want to able to about 5 hits in the face from lob.. need over 1000 for that

Switch to 18/2 Monk and you will pick up 2 more toughness feats, done over 1000HP


A couple of suggestions:

Feat swap IC: Slashing at cap. It won't work with Efang and you can make
a GS Min 2 THF weapon (saves a feat for something else).

Improved Sunder: drop, it's meh. on a S&B build, at least from my experience.

Edit: you could pick up Greater WS Slashing feat instead of IC Slashing.

If you plan on tanking eLOB, don't use the eFang leading up to the end fight.
And get yourself a 2nd eFang...they can break in extended fights.

Excellent Intim 87, perfect for tanking eLOB and still drinking SF pots if needed.
Now, you can get the Spider mask (if you have it) +1 Intim and move an AP around and still
maintain the 87 mark.

[Bart_D]

Physical Damage Resistance: 25% From Improved Shield Mastery
DR 6- SD 3
DR 9 - Shield Blocking
DR 5/Chaotic Cavalry Plate
DR 1/- Ship Buff ( Not Calculating out a Late Entry lol)

So assuming a 400 point hit from LOB ... 400 - 21DR = 374 *.75 (25% Damage Resist) = 287 damage

DR doesn't work like that, you only get highest passive DR (ie DR 6 from SD3) + blocking DR if actively blocking. But you'll get more than DR 9 from blocking.

[ayondie]

re edited yet again.. feats and dr got reworked.. working on ap now since i dropped improved sunder frees up action points.. should be about close to final draft. Any last minute concerns/comments are welcome.

[Moltier]

re edited yet again.. feats and dr got reworked.. working on ap now since i dropped improved sunder frees up action points.. should be about close to final draft. Any last minute concerns/comments are welcome.

Okay, here are some more.

"THE LoB Tank All the HP's"
If you want max HP, you could add 2 monk levels, for even more hp, better saves, and evasion for the time when you wear light armor.

Also every character starts with the free hero feat which gives +20hp.

Another thing, 87 intimi seems too high. Even if you use silver flame pots.
Stalwarts can reach usefull reflex saves, if you work a bit for it. Some point from CHA to DEX wouldnt hurt. And the extra balance isnt bad either. As a bonus, it would make monk evasion even better for the few fights you really want.

Intimidate: Its not really 100%
While it last, it is 100%, but the CD is 15sec, and the effect last only for 12sec.
Also it takes a minimal time to activate it (intimi then break the animation with a trip). Count on it as 75% bonus. Less then 20% if you dont use a shield.

Hope these help.

[ayondie]

thanks for the hp catch yet again.. id give some more rep but i gotta spread it around first. and as far as monk as much i like the idea im just really set on staying pure (for once! lol). But i appreciate the thought and the reasoning behind it.

[smithj_2020]

Nice, as I post above says I'd recommend 2 levels of monk= 2 extra toughness feats.

My stalwart is 18/2 fighter/monk stands at 1063 hps(w/ ship buffs), I don't hac enough invite items tho currently finishing claw gloves and Brawns an he is THF.

Build works well in LoB I took 12 debuffs from him was at 450 hps still haha.

[noinfo]

Takeitintheface
THE Lob Tank (TR1x)
Human 20 fighter
See Post 2 for enhancements

1)Human: Least Dragonmark
1) Char Creation:Toughness
1) Fighter Bonus:THF
2) FB: WF Slashing
3)Toughness
4) FB:PA
6)Lesser Dragonmark
6) FB: Shield Mastery
8) FB:ITHF
9) Toughness
10) FB: WS: Slashing
12)Toughness
12) FB:GTHF
14) FB:GWF: Slashing
15)Toughness
16) FB: Improved Shield Mastery
18)FB: GWS: Slashing
18) Greater Dragonmark
20)FB:SWF: Slashing



Should Still be a dr of 16 .. im not good at dr breakdowns so this is just a rough guess.

I would recommend finding improved shield bash there somewhere and making a Addy/Holy/GCB shield for sheild bashing him while actively blocking. Your agro will be fine while hitting him but using the hound shield blocking only will lose agro reasonably quickly meaning you have to intim or go back to hitting and risk morlands and specials. Also some of your DR do not stack but take the higher that is active.

[alexp80]

My build (currently on his way to 20)

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Gauth 
Level 20 True Neutral Half-Elf Male
(20 Fighter) 
Hit Points: 454
Spell Points: 0 
BAB: 20\20\25\30\30
Fortitude: 19
Reflex: 8
Will: 9

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(34 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             17                    28
Dexterity             8                    10
Constitution         18                    21
Intelligence          8                    10
Wisdom                8                    10
Charisma             13                    16

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
+3 Tome of Strength used at level 11
+3 Tome of Constitution used at level 11

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance              -1                     6
Bluff                 1                     3
Concentration         4                     5
Diplomacy             1                     3
Disable Device       n/a                    n/a
Haggle                1                     3
Heal                 -1                     0
Hide                 -1                     0
Intimidate            5                    43
Jump                  3                    10
Listen               -1                     0
Move Silently        -1                     0
Open Lock            n/a                    n/a
Perform               n/a                   n/a
Repair               -1                     0
Search               -1                     0
Spot                 -1                     0
Swim                  3                     9
Tumble               n/a                    n/a
Use Magic Device      n/a                   n/a

Level 1 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Bastard Sword
Feat: (Half-Elf Dilettante) Half-Elf Dilettante: Paladin
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Barbarian
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 2 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Two Handed Fighting


Level 3 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Past Life: Berserker's Fury


Level 4 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Power Attack


Level 5 (Fighter)


Level 6 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons


Level 7 (Fighter)


Level 8 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons


Level 9 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Sunder


Level 10 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Two Handed Fighting


Level 11 (Fighter)


Level 12 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Bullheaded
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Two Handed Fighting


Level 13 (Fighter)


Level 14 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Shield Mastery


Level 15 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Skill Focus: Intimidate


Level 16 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Shield Mastery


Level 17 (Fighter)


Level 18 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Shield Bash
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons


Level 19 (Fighter)


Level 20 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons
Enhancement: Fighter Armor Class Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Armor Class Boost II
Enhancement: Fighter Armor Class Boost III
Enhancement: Fighter Extra Action Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Extra Action Boost II
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost II
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost III
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost IV
Enhancement: Fighter Weapon Alacrity
Enhancement: Fighter Stalwart Defender I
Enhancement: Fighter Stalwart Defender II
Enhancement: Fighter Stalwart Defender III
Enhancement: Fighter Strategy (Sunder) I
Enhancement: Fighter Strategy (Sunder) II
Enhancement: Fighter Strategy (Trip) I
Enhancement: Fighter Bastard Sword Specialization I
Enhancement: Fighter Greataxe Specialization I
Enhancement: Improved Paladin Dilettante I
Enhancement: Improved Paladin Dilettante II
Enhancement: Improved Paladin Dilettante III
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Strength I
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery II
Enhancement: Fighter Item Defense I
Enhancement: Fighter Item Defense II
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Improved Intimidate I
Enhancement: Improved Intimidate II
Enhancement: Improved Intimidate III
Enhancement: Improved Intimidate IV
Enhancement: Half-Elf Paladin Charisma I
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I
Enhancement: Fighter Strength II
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness II
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness III
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness IV

gear

trinket: epic brawn's spirits (good luck)
google: gs 45hp lightning guard

necklace: shintao cord
ring: kyosho (h.amp +20%)
ring: ravager (+2 exc str)
belt: ravager (or gs +6 cha skill)

helm: epic helm of frost (gfl)
cloak: epic envenomed cloak (toughness)
gloves: epic glows of the claw
bracers: epic bracers of the claw
boots: epic boots of corrosion (exc cha +1/heavy fort)

armor: fleshshaper brigandine (obsession)
shield: +5 adamantine tower shield of gcb with medium slot (+3 intim)
weapon: +5 adamantine bastard sword of gcb