Cannith crafting "fix"

[Silverwren]

So prior to update 13 we could overwrite +enhancements, prefixes and suffixes, as long as the shard was in a bag. I LOVED this, and I'm sure I'm not alone.

Devs, PLEASE bring this back. I can't begin to tell you how annoying it is to have to rekey and reapply all the enhancements on my +2 ghost touch greatsword of undead bane (for example) just to upgrade it to +3.

Who's with me?

[Keybreaker]

/signed

Particularly with Greater Banes... I'd like to be able to keep the suffix (since they are costly to make), but be able to swap out the enhancement bonus and prefix.

[licho]

/Signed.

[Urist]

So prior to update 13 we could overwrite +enhancements, prefixes and suffixes, as long as the shard was in a bag.

Aaaaah, so THAT's how people were still managing to do it, while I was unable to. I guess I wasn't close enough to the inner circle of sploit-crafters to work it out.

At the very least, I'd like for them to allow up- (and possibly down-) grading along a line of like enchantments (spearblocks, fire guards, etc.).

Magic 8-ball says: "Dream on"

[Rumbaar]

Ah, darn. Didn't know this, cleaned a few weapons to make them better, and was always on the look out for the option in the UI.

Yes, please return this and it's direct way of accessing it. upgrading my Silver khopesh of Holy Evil Outsider Bane should be easier than having to wipe it.

[Silverwren]

Aaaaah, so THAT's how people were still managing to do it, while I was unable to. I guess I wasn't close enough to the inner circle of sploit-crafters to work it out.

At the very least, I'd like for them to allow up- (and possibly down-) grading along a line of like enchantments (spearblocks, fire guards, etc.).

Magic 8-ball says: "Dream on"

I'd forgotten about that. You COULD go backwards and downgrade, again as long as the shards were in a bag. I tried it (pre-U13) and downgraded an item I couldn't use because of level restrictions from +2 to +1.

Alas, no longer.

[bhgiant]

It would be nice, but I never saw crafting this way. New properties means a completely new weapon. It is working as the Devs originally intended it to. For that reason, /not signed.

[Gkar]

It would be nice, but I never saw crafting this way. New properties means a completely new weapon. It is working as the Devs originally intended it to. For that reason, /not signed.

No, it isn't working as originally intended.

When released you were specifically allowed to overwrite by design (there was even a UI option to prevent you doing it accidentally). Then there as a bug with overwrite that was acknowledged as a bug, and the fix was to take out the UI option and overwrite instead of fixing the bug.

[Vordax]

Aaaaah, so THAT's how people were still managing to do it, while I was unable to. I guess I wasn't close enough to the inner circle of sploit-crafters to work it out.

I have been doing this and thinking it was working as intended. I had no idea the shards had to be in a bag until I read this thread, it just always worked for me, but apparently its because all my bags are on auto collect.

Vordax

[Scraap]

/signed

[Cesarai]

/signed!

[thebeast1985]

i like crafting new stuff but endeed i prefer to change a suffix or prefix more than recrafting.

/signed

[bhgiant]

No, it isn't working as originally intended.

When released you were specifically allowed to overwrite by design (there was even a UI option to prevent you doing it accidentally). Then there as a bug with overwrite that was acknowledged as a bug, and the fix was to take out the UI option and overwrite instead of fixing the bug.

Well... that's... grrr. I wonder what is to be gained by making you craft an entirely new weapon rather than just replacing the old properties.

[danotmano1998]

Well... that's... grrr. I wonder what is to be gained by making you craft an entirely new weapon rather than just replacing the old properties.

Time and Platinum sink, basically. That's the only reason I can think of..

So prior to update 13 we could overwrite +enhancements, prefixes and suffixes, as long as the shard was in a bag. I LOVED this, and I'm sure I'm not alone.

Dagnabit, wish I had known this earlier. Oh well..


Even if they don't make them overwritable, it would be awesome if they fixed the disjunction dust so that when used, it not only clears the effects, but clears the ML as well!! This is the bug that annoys me the most... Fine, make me recraft it from scratch. Just don't make me disjunct, put on some silly ML 0 shard, then disjunct again.. That's just sloppy, IMO.

[Cauthey]

I think Key and I were discussing this ingame. However, prior to U13, I could not make the shard overwrite work. I attempted it with my selected shards in the bag.

Was this the case for bound crafted items, or unbound crafted items only?

[Cauthey]

Even if they don't make them overwritable, it would be awesome if they fixed the disjunction dust so that when used, it not only clears the effects, but clears the ML as well!! This is the bug that annoys me the most... Fine, make me recraft it from scratch. Just don't make me disjunct, put on some silly ML 0 shard, then disjunct again.. That's just sloppy, IMO.

I don't believe that the process you described is ever necessary.

If you were prepping a silver khopesh that was previously ML17, all you would need to do is disjunct it, and then add the lower + shards to it that you intend to use (for example, Acid (+1) and Pure Good (+2) for ML5). The ML seems to update anytime a shard is added. The ML17 is really arbitrary on the blank. Who's going to use a uncrafted blank, anyway?

The only reason you would need to put in a ML0 just to clear it is if you had intention of using the base blank empty, with no shards in it. I wouldn't see a reason to do this. If you're going to use a Cannith Crafted item, it's going to have a shard in it - it's never going to just be the blank.

[Jubbers]

/signed

There are a few things that would make crafting better... over writing a weapon is/was an awesome ability to customize items as you went up in level, but didn't have to redo all the +6/+7/+8 shard to make a weapon better.

I do want the WIA to function like it did for launch and overwriting to be allowed.

[nebogloee]

/signed

I got my overwrites done the night before u13 went live, but once the holy/tod holy burst stacking bug gets fixed, the option to overwrite my prefixes would save a ton of essences.

[Silverwren]

I think Key and I were discussing this ingame. However, prior to U13, I could not make the shard overwrite work. I attempted it with my selected shards in the bag.

Was this the case for bound crafted items, or unbound crafted items only?

To be honest, I never tried it with unbound shards. I mostly craft for myself and my alts by putting the shards in the shared bank, switching toons and then making the item. But it always worked for me regardless of the toon.

[Urist]

Well... that's... grrr. I wonder what is to be gained by making you craft an entirely new weapon rather than just replacing the old properties.

Time and Platinum sink, basically. That's the only reason I can think of..

And to make people use up more essences.
Oh hey, look, essences are available for purchase using TP! Who'da thunk?