UPDATE: Cakes & Pre-Purchase Tickets

[Deathnights]

Is "vast majority" a truthful statement?

Reports show 7 out of 10.. vast enough for me

[danotmano1998]

I dont think for one minute that Turbine are not working on the issue, i do have one question though, why are they still trying to sell this new product KNOWING that at the moment, it doesnt work properly? Illegal i doubt it, immoral ofc! Stupid that they will get even more complaints, yes stupid that they make more money, no ! Not the devs fault, i assume Management insist that the broken product stays advertised.

*cough* Yep!
That's the point right there I've tried to make and got shouted down for it.
It's not WAI. They know that. They're trying to fix it. Yet they are still selling it.

Fine, it doesn't work right, there are bugs. No biggie.
Just let peeps know about this BEFORE they purchase it, not AFTER.

Not sure it's even immorality.
It may just be impossible to effect this kind of change quickly within their current management structure. (Giving you guys a HUGE benefit of doubt here)

[elkorm]

Thank you so much for selling me something I shouldn't have used.

Too bad I found out something was wrong after I attempted using a second token (I used one succesfully monday night) today.

did I just waste a lesser tome of learning?

Elk

[drgsldr69]

• CAKE: If you already activated your cake but did not receive your items on that character, you do not need to submit a ticket to receive assistance.

Ok so are you going to auto know who didn't recieve their tomes or whatever? For instance my lv 20 artificer used his cake with no problem this morning and got a +2 Dex tome, however my lv 2rogue/7artificer used his cake and didn't get his +2con tome.

[countfitz]

Negative Ghostrider.

Use the pets on the first character and they are available on all characters.

Oh, ***!

Seriously!!!!

Then that is ONE MORE THING I DIDN'T GET!!!!!

None of my toons got any pets! Even the ones that got their XP tomes and onyx statues! Man, that freaking sucks!

Well, I guess it's cool that all my toons will get to use them, if they fix anything any time soon.

[Deathnights]

Oh, ***!

Seriously!!!!

Then that is ONE MORE THING I DIDN'T GET!!!!!

None of my toons got any pets! Even the ones that got their XP tomes and onyx statues! Man, that freaking sucks!

Well, I guess it's cool that all my toons will get to use them, if they fix anything any time soon.

My guess is they are in your hireling folder

[countfitz]

So you going to keep playing a game run by thieves? Or is your moral outrage only a show?

Totally going to keep playing a game run by thieves!

I buy oil for my car too!

Edit: Just looked in your sig. Seriously, for a dude who has "This sucks. If I wasn't so addicted..." as his sig, I'd think you would understand.

[countfitz]

My guess is they are in your hireling folder

Not there. But now I'm confused. Are you talking about the Onyx Panther (I got those for every toon that worked, 2 out of 6) but none of them got the cosmetic pets. Not a one. So are we saying all the toons get cosmetic pets? Or all of them get Onyx Figurines? Or all of them get all of them?

[Deathnights]

all get panthers, that are hirelings, that go in your hireling folder if you have one.. some people only got those, some got nothing, all different variations.

[Postumus]

Is "vast majority" a truthful statement?

I'm not a big fan of hyperbole either, but in this case can you honestly argue that it doesn't seem to be widespread?

[countfitz]

all get panthers, that are hirelings, that go in your hireling folder if you have one.. some people only got those, some got nothing, all different variations.

Okay. So. Like I said, I did get my Onyx Figurine (Panther Hireling) and that worked on the two toons that got their items. 4 toons didn't get anything, because of the bug. That seems about right, since the bug seems to affect a vast majority, about 7/10 attempts, at using it.

But my question is this: Does every toon, when WAI, get access to the COSMETIC pets? Because none of my toons, even the ones that things worked for, got those.

I was pretty much assuming the bug was an all or nothing issue, your toon got everything or nothing at all. Apparently not?

[Chrasch]

Not there. But now I'm confused. Are you talking about the Onyx Panther (I got those for every toon that worked, 2 out of 6) but none of them got the cosmetic pets. Not a one. So are we saying all the toons get cosmetic pets? Or all of them get Onyx Figurines? Or all of them get all of them?

All of them should get all of the pets. I thought only one got the figurine and mask but I could be wrong on that front.

[Chrasch]

Okay. So. Like I said, I did get my Onyx Figurine (Panther Hireling) and that worked on the two toons that got their items. 4 toons didn't get anything, because of the bug. That seems about right, since the bug seems to affect a vast majority, about 7/10 attempts, at using it.

But my question is this: Does every toon, when WAI, get access to the COSMETIC pets? Because none of my toons, even the ones that things worked for, got those.

I was pretty much assuming the bug was an all or nothing issue, your toon got everything or nothing at all. Apparently not?

Which package did you get?

[sebastianosmith]

But my question is this: Does every toon, when WAI, get access to the COSMETIC pets? Because none of my toons, even the ones that things worked for, got those.

Collector's Edition: wolf pup, panther cub and spiderling

Standard Edition: wolf pup and spiderling

Base Edition: spiderling

[countfitz]

I'm not a big fan of hyperbole either, but in this case can you honestly argue that it doesn't seem to be widespread?

Truthfully, we are going to hear more from the people who were affected than were not, BUT, I've only seen THREE people on the forums that purchased the items and were not affected on at least one toon. They were trying to give advice on where/how to use your token to have the best chances of it working. Apparently one person got it to work correctly on all 18 of his toons.

But yeah, other than that, it was pretty much affecting a vast majority of players, like posted, 7/10. In my guild not one person who used the item didn't have at least one bug. Online nobody I spoke to didn't

But, once again, you have a far less likely chance of hearing someone say "Hey, I'm good over here" than "OMG WHAT JUST HAPPENED!"

So annecdotes for a situation like this aren't foolproof. But "vast majority" does seem reasonably used here.

Of course, what are the chances Turbine will release the actual numbers? We could argue all day and never find out.

There was one thread that was hilarious about this. Some guy spent weeks calculating a Lit II's proc rate. He figured it out. He posted it. Then a dev said "yep, that's right." Seriously devs, just tell us the info! Making us do all the work when you have the answer in front of you!

[countfitz]

Collector's Edition: wolf pup, panther cub and spiderling

Standard Edition: wolf pup and spiderling

Base Edition: spiderling

Yep, Collector's edition, didn't get it

[Thrudh]

Reports show 7 out of 10.. vast enough for me

What reports?

[Thrudh]

Thank you so much for selling me something I shouldn't have used.

Too bad I found out something was wrong after I attempted using a second token (I used one succesfully monday night) today.

did I just waste a lesser tome of learning?

Elk

No, they will make you good when it get fixed.

[Thrudh]

I'm not a big fan of hyperbole either, but in this case can you honestly argue that it doesn't seem to be widespread?

Self-selection. The people it worked for aren't going to be posting here. Only the people who had a problem are going to run to the forums to complain (rightly so).

[Thrudh]

In my guild not one person who used the item didn't have at least one bug.

That's a better sample. So maybe it is widespread. Or maybe everyone in your guild has a common factor that is rare in the general public <shrug>