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    Quote Originally Posted by Missing_Minds View Post
    Incorrect assumption. Read again, I did not say to TR again.

    Given what has happened on Lama, should it get released, what happens to the banks of current TRs? Just apply the new load only. Do they lose what is in their bank or not?
    I read it fine the first time.

    Being that Cordovan has already stated, "We're not going to let people lose all of their stuff when TRing" (Post #61), I think it reasonable to assume that they will also ensure that current TR banks are protected as well. And in the event that something does happen to current TR banks, I think it also reasonable to assume that they will work even faster to correct such a problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leistes View Post
    I read it fine the first time.
    If you had, why did you state about tring again? Obviously you did not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leistes View Post
    reasonable to assume that they will also ensure that current TR banks are protected as well.

    also reasonable to assume that they will work even faster to correct such a problem.
    on the evil scale, assumptions make lloth look good

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    Quote Originally Posted by Failedlegend View Post
    Rushed out nothing...they found a bug and they fixed it...it's lama its a test server
    No, it was rushed out. This build with the tr bug is not the lammania build that has been out for weeks now, it was just released in the past 24/48 hours. A bug was found by players, not Tubine staff, and they are trying to fix it, no where has Turbine stated it is fixed.
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    Question Does this bug happen when you LR or GR

    Quote Originally Posted by shreiar View Post
    Took my prized Elven AA Ranger and tried a TR, but when I went to the bank to get stuff from my inventory, all that was there was stuff from the bank. Anything in my inventory, like my epic items and my greensteel bow was gone!

    EDIT: I do have reincarnation cache, but it only has stuff from the bank.

    EDIT 2: After many of you confirmed the issue, I submitted a bug report.
    Great find. I think you saved a lot of people (not to mention Turbine) a lot of grief. +1

    I've tried to keep up to date on this but I haven't been able to find if this bug exists when Lesser and Greater Reincarnating. Has anyone tested Lesser and Greater Reincarnating?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Autolycus View Post
    Great find. I think you saved a lot of people (not to mention Turbine) a lot of grief. +1

    I've tried to keep up to date on this but I haven't been able to find if this bug exists when Lesser and Greater Reincarnating. Has anyone tested Lesser and Greater Reincarnating?
    I did a lesser Reincarnate on a character that has never True Reincarnated and lost all my inventory stuff also.

    Bank stuff remained intact.
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    Wow...anyways, huge thanks to those who've discovered and tested this bug. OP should definitely get something from Turbine as a big thank you. He saved them from incalculable amounts of badness. Lifetime VIP status would seem appropriate for this, as the amount of $$$ he just saved Turbine from losing seems like it would be massive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dynahawk View Post
    I did a lesser Reincarnate on a character that has never True Reincarnated and lost all my inventory stuff also.

    Bank stuff remained intact.
    I also did a lesser reincarnation and all items in my inventory was gone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dozen_Black_Roses View Post
    No, it was rushed out. This build with the tr bug is not the lammania build that has been out for weeks now, it was just released in the past 24/48 hours. A bug was found by players, not Tubine staff, and they are trying to fix it, no where has Turbine stated it is fixed.
    It's fixed internally. You will be safe to TR when we allow it.
    It was a halo effect of a much worse TR bug, if you must know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MajMalphunktion View Post
    It's fixed internally. You will be safe to TR when we allow it.
    It was a halo effect of a much worse TR bug, if you must know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MajMalphunktion View Post
    It's fixed internally. You will be safe to TR when we allow it.
    It was a halo effect of a much worse TR bug, if you must know.
    if you're going to put out a teaser like that atleast buy me a drink first.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ganolyn View Post
    Nothing sneaky? Then how did you manage to quote a post I edited out two minutes before you posted? (Please, for the love of God, don't explain it!)
    I hit the QUOTE button, and then it took me a little bit to draft my post. The quote tags and your original text were already in my draft.

    Oh, and sorry for explaining. It's what I do. I'm nothing if not verbose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cordovan View Post
    I appreciate the request, but it will not be necessary. We're not going to let people lose all of their stuff when TRing.
    Is losing some items alright then? Where is this line drawn? I apologize if I'm coming across really negative, not my intention. My intention is that while this issue is being addressed, fix it entirely.

    It has been around for some time that people would lose a handful of items from TRing. An epic seal from an ingredients bag, a mantle, silver flame talismans, ToD rings. Sure, not as big an impact from losing ALL of your current equipment, but why is losing any of it ok? And then by the time you notice it it's past the seven day limit that Turbine gives to recover lost items through TRing or whatever. I guess I need to make a list of everything on my person, in my bags and then double check it when I TR???

    Thank you for preventing an even bigger issue going live and still making a fun game, but the little bugs add up over time and can cause a frustrated player base that wants to have fun playing the game, not chase blinded, stunned, held, paralyzed, tripped mobs running all over the place =P Guess if players could do that it'd get fixed faster...oh, then it'd be called an exploit, not a bug
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    Quote Originally Posted by MajMalphunktion View Post
    It's fixed internally. You will be safe to TR when we allow it.
    It was a halo effect of a much worse TR bug, if you must know.
    Hum so how do you know its fixed when u state that " You will be safe to TR when we allow it. ", why cant we test it NOW?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DogMania View Post
    Hum so how do you know its fixed when u state that " You will be safe to TR when we allow it. ", why cant we test it NOW?
    Because the build that has that fix isn't on Lamannia. I thought that was fairly obvious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HungarianRhapsody View Post
    Because the build that has that fix isn't on Lamannia. I thought that was fairly obvious.
    So why not put it on Lam to test?, before it goes live, and NO It was not obvious

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    Quote Originally Posted by MajMalphunktion View Post
    You will be safe to TR when we allow it.
    This makes it sound like Kruz will be gone until the fix for this rolls out, if it doesn't come with the update itself.

    As was mentioned earlier, there are people who have already turned in their TR/LR/GR hearts to Kruz, but haven't reincarnated; that's either because they're waiting specifically for the update, or because they had some other reason to wait. I'm not one of them, but I wanted to make sure they'll be safe if they push that "reincarnate" button on Monday. Especially if there's an even worse bug out there.

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    Turbine did not Find this WE the players here did. And really it should have never made it out to ANY server. Better to put thing out where you get Free help then to Hire in house Staff to do a full Check of the software.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Failedlegend View Post
    Rushed out nothing...they found a bug and they fixed it...it's lama its a test server

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    Quote Originally Posted by MajMalphunktion View Post
    It's fixed internally. You will be safe to TR when we allow it.
    It was a halo effect of a much worse TR bug, if you must know.
    Can you please confirm that the existing bug on live, in which you very occasionally loose SOME of the items in your inventory when TRing, has also been fixed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sleepsalot View Post
    Turbine did not Find this WE the players here did. And really it should have never made it out to ANY server. Better to put thing out where you get Free help then to Hire in house Staff to do a full Check of the software.
    You do not know that for truth. You ABSOLUTELY do not know that for truth. The bug very easily may have been known by Turbine staff all along. The libraries that handle TR functions may have intentionally been left out.

    They've explicitly said that they are making efforts to get more to Lamannia faster. AND, they included a caveat that they may be a little more rough around the edges because of these endeavors.

    I would recommend trying to find a little more patience and a little more trust. Take a look at their track record for the past 3 months or more. Turbine has been doing a colossal job with getting things done and communicating with the community.

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