Looking for a light/shintao full monk tank build

[NXPlasmid]

Hey Everyone,
I am thinking of TRing one of my light monks to a tank/strength based build (36pt). Right now I'm not interested in going dark. Probably go horc, but am open. If anyone has a build they can point me to that would be greatly appreciated.

[redspecter23]

It may sound silly, but depending on what your goal is for your tanking toon, you might be better off being con, dex or wisdom based. Con gives you more HP, dex and wisdom both give you more AC and wisdom upps all your DC's. The amount of extra damage you do being strength based is minimal compared to the threat you generate through gear anyway. As long as you can hit the mob, I'd be inclined to go with any of the other abilities instead. Con if you focus on epics like Lord of Blades where your HP will be the determining factor in how well you tank, or dex or wisdom if you're focusing on content where AC can be a factor.

I have nothing against strength based monk tanks, just saying that if tanking is your main goal, be sure to explore all your options.

Edit, I know you mentioned you didn't want to go dark, but in my opinion it's far superior to light for tanking purposes due to the shadow fade ability.

Depending on how the enhancement trees and PRE's work out, either Dwarf or Warforged 20 monk with full access to the defender line look like great tank options. We'll have to wait and see how they may work with eachother.

[maddmatt70]

Go half-elf 18 monk 2 fighter. Great healing amp and dual intimidate timers with an 80 or so intimidate possible...

[NXPlasmid]

It may sound silly, but depending on what your goal is for your tanking toon, you might be better off being con, dex or wisdom based. Con gives you more HP, dex and wisdom both give you more AC and wisdom upps all your DC's. The amount of extra damage you do being strength based is minimal compared to the threat you generate through gear anyway. As long as you can hit the mob, I'd be inclined to go with any of the other abilities instead. Con if you focus on epics like Lord of Blades where your HP will be the determining factor in how well you tank, or dex or wisdom if you're focusing on content where AC can be a factor.

I have nothing against strength based monk tanks, just saying that if tanking is your main goal, be sure to explore all your options.

Edit, I know you mentioned you didn't want to go dark, but in my opinion it's far superior to light for tanking purposes due to the shadow fade ability.

Depending on how the enhancement trees and PRE's work out, either Dwarf or Warforged 20 monk with full access to the defender line look like great tank options. We'll have to wait and see how they may work with eachother.

Are you refering to empty body? that is a monk feat available to either light or dark path monks

Go half-elf 18 monk 2 fighter. Great healing amp and dual intimidate timers with an 80 or so intimidate possible...

interesting, I'll have to think about that, I would like to stay pure monk but that is compelling...

[TPICKRELL]

Are you refering to empty body? that is a monk feat available to either light or dark path monks

No he's referring to the 25% incorporeal ability - shadow fade -- that ninja spy gets for tier i ninja spy pre. It's great for tanking because its 25% misses even from bosses.

I'd second the vote that if you are going light path, look at AC as an alternative to strength build. You do less damage, but with Mountain IV and gear, hate is not a problem and AC, especially against tainted can make a big difference depending on what numbers you can get to.

EDIT: Heres link to ninja spy enhancements including shadow fade: http://ddowiki.com/page/Ninja_Spy_enhancements

[SensaiRyu]

Several in my sig...

For tanking, eh... but if you have enuf incite equips you may be able to.

Which wraps to use would be a good question - been discussed at length elsewhere.

I don't think light monks make good tanks. At least that's my experience.

[NXPlasmid]

No he's referring to the 25% incorporeal ability - shadow fade -- that ninja spy gets for tier i ninja spy pre. It's great for tanking because its 25% misses even from bosses.

I'd second the vote that if you are going light path, look at AC as an alternative to strength build. You do less damage, but with Mountain IV and gear, hate is not a problem and AC, especially against tainted can make a big difference depending on what numbers you can get to.

EDIT: Heres link to ninja spy enhancements including shadow fade: http://ddowiki.com/page/Ninja_Spy_enhancements

ah ok, I didn't realize you were talking about a PrE

Several in my sig...

For tanking, eh... but if you have enuf incite equips you may be able to.

Which wraps to use would be a good question - been discussed at length elsewhere.

I don't think light monks make good tanks. At least that's my experience.

thanks! I'll take a look. I already have a bit of gear and my shintao tod set.. my other monk Tspatula is a wis based light shintao, Tchopstick is more balance with a bit more strength, I was thinking I would try something different, but I don't want to give up my dr breaking shintao stuffs... I'm just in the begining of thinking this through.

[NXPlasmid]

No he's referring to the 25% incorporeal ability - shadow fade -- that ninja spy gets for tier i ninja spy pre. It's great for tanking because its 25% misses even from bosses.

I'd second the vote that if you are going light path, look at AC as an alternative to strength build. You do less damage, but with Mountain IV and gear, hate is not a problem and AC, especially against tainted can make a big difference depending on what numbers you can get to.

EDIT: Heres link to ninja spy enhancements including shadow fade: http://ddowiki.com/page/Ninja_Spy_enhancements

Yeah, AC plus hate gear might be my best bet. Ive got the stuff to make the claw gloves already....

[TPICKRELL]

Yeah, AC plus hate gear might be my best bet. Ive got the stuff to make the claw gloves already....

My light path WF was built as an all around toon, but has ended up acting as the light/medium tank in most guild runs. We bring out a purpose built tank for some elites and some specific situations... I'm a bit light on HP for horoth (but im on sulu anyway), way short of HP for LOB but solid for most everything else. My threat comes from Brute Fighting, Mountain IV and DT. Ive got a THREAT/THREAT/THREAT DT and am working on an THREAT/AMP/THREAT set for those situations where my threat is overkill and more amp would be nice.

[goodspeed]

aye for tanking id hit dark monk. and while it is blasphemy i know, id go prolly dex based while keeping a bit of str up.

Finesse for 2 hit. A bunch of hate gear every which way. I'd also wan't the tod rings both for the extra dmg crafted onto them as well as the set bonus's. You'll want the points which you have at 36.

Then comes race. I think I would go either a human or a dwarf. Heres why. With the changes racial pre's will be introduced. Now dwarf gets the steward line. As well as of course more con and some other racial stuff. Human however get the versatility in dmg and stats as well as they get a choice of which pre to take. So im thinking stack of heal amp which will just make you a flippn delight to heal.

Then the choice of staying pure or splashing. Tough call on that one.

[SensaiRyu]

If you go Shintao, you'll have 3 monk amps and 1 human amp from enh. You probably won't need any more amp. I know I don't. I've had healers comment on my nice amps.

Metaru mentions that he could tank... However I've heard that it's no longer advisable to go low wis on a monk.

I used to get aggro from the designated tank easily when I was dark and I had poor gear and under average strength. ToD goes a long way to getting aggro. Just a thought.

[maddmatt70]

If you go Shintao, you'll have 3 monk amps and 1 human amp from enh. You probably won't need any more amp. I know I don't. I've had healers comment on my nice amps.

Metaru mentions that he could tank... However I've heard that it's no longer advisable to go low wis on a monk.

I used to get aggro from the designated tank easily when I was dark and I had poor gear and under average strength. ToD goes a long way to getting aggro. Just a thought.

As a tank you can never have enough healing amp unless you are a very high ac character. 18 monk 2 fighter can tank Epic Lord of Blades and any raid with just healing amp and intimidate.

[NXPlasmid]

As a tank you can never have enough healing amp unless you are a very high ac character. 18 monk 2 fighter can tank Epic Lord of Blades and any raid with just healing amp and intimidate.

I might do that, if I do I'll probably just do my third TR as Wis based light monk and then at 20 do a greater +2 res and drop in the fighter levels.