Worst Chains to run

[Llewndyn]

I would like to share a story, then quantify which chains that, unless you are willing to start over, you will NEVER fill up a group for.

Last night, join a Co6 Elite run. The leader was a rogue/ arti/ ranger splash, so I figured traps were covered. I get in, tell him I will buff and head to the caves, and he reiterates it's just Co6. D'oh! I had spaced that. Couple other people had as well, as they piped up at that point saying no one had flagged for it. Leader is annoyed, which I understand, and we go in and do the Sorrowdusk part.

It's going really well, TBH, sub 4 minute runs on everything, Get to Co6, go through the first 2 there, even though he said something about how he hadn't planned on running the other chain and how he didn't like us infringing on his time I figure 12 extra minutes to get people flagged can't impact his playtime too much... get to the big temple and he ragequits. In the middle of everything. Just leaves. As you all know, this was right before the one with all the mephits and fire traps. On elite. and the highest level amongst us was 9, the sorc I think. We had a couple toons with sub-100 HP.

Long story slightly shorter, we finish, out of a full group at the beginning just me and the sorc at the end, but it got me to thinking. What quest chains do you run that you know the only chance of getting a group together is to restart? Off the top of my head I am thinking:

Catacombs
Tangleroot
Sorrowdusk/ Co6

I can't think of any others. Even like Delera's has good enough XP you can jump in at any time and run them, and the necro ones and VON and all that are non-sequential... Did this guy getting annoyed and ragequitting for us wasting 12 minutes of his time have merit? I know he had Co6 in the LFM and me and 3 others ignored this, but was I in the wrong or was he?

EDIT: ROFL, Wrong area to post this. I am too lazy to move it though.

[grgurius]

Worst chain - Threnal.

As for your other question, you haven't read the lfm, so some anger on the party leaders side is understandable.

[djsonar919]

The leader was a rogue/ arti/ ranger splash....

That or he rage quit after he realized he created a rogue/arti/ranger splash and went to re-roll.

[Llewndyn]

Worst chain - Threnal.

As for your other question, you haven't read the lfm, so some anger on the party leaders side is understandable.

So you win there, and I offered more than once to drop and solo while he was filling, out of the 6 of us 4 had not run sorrowdusk. If he had said yes drop and run it on your own I would have done that and rejoined; saying, as he did, "No that's fine, I really didn't want to run it but that's fine" to me does not equal him having an attitude the whole time we were in there. No one twisted his arm and made him acquiesce to our preferences.

[Bacab]

I think threnal...Coyle is the worst part of this game.

As an event...we should get to re-name our Guild-ship dummies "Coyle" of course the enhancement you'd get would be "Seconds of Work" instead of "Hour of Work".

Also with Coyle as a training dummy...there would be no DPS test anymore.

[wmedina]

I guess proof that you didnt read the LFM is that here either read 'what section were you' .. ROFL...

[HungarianRhapsody]

Threnal.



Threnal is so ugly that Bob the Builder looked at it and said, "I can't fix that."

Threnal is so stupid that it tried to put all of its M&Ms in alphabetical order.

Threnal is so bad that LFMs for it won't even fill if there are already 6 people in the party.

[nomaddog]

Threnal

[AZgreentea]

I dont know about "worst" to run, but Catacombs is almost impossible to fill unless you leave the LFM up as you progress. I usually consider a 5 man party run on that to be on the larger side. Luckily most people get stuck on the final fight solo, so they dont mind rerunning some of the others for a completion. I really enjoy the Catacombs story and quests. It was the first pack I ever purchased and the only one ever purchased not on sale.

I think the worst chain to get a group for is Necro 1. Nobody ever wants to run that very frequently, and because of the flagging I hate joining an LFM in progress.

[Memnir]

Threnal is painfully bad in a multitude of ways.
The Devs really ought to work on improving the chain so people who buy it don't wind up totally wasting their points. I've run maybe two Threnal runs start to finish since Unlimited launched.


If the Devs don't want to/have the time to fix the chain - make it F2P with a minor refund to those who've bought the pack. It might not fix the gameplay/mechanics problems that abound in Threnal - but it might at least get people to run it more often.

[grgurius]

So you win there, and I offered more than once to drop and solo while he was filling, out of the 6 of us 4 had not run sorrowdusk. If he had said yes drop and run it on your own I would have done that and rejoined; saying, as he did, "No that's fine, I really didn't want to run it but that's fine" to me does not equal him having an attitude the whole time we were in there. No one twisted his arm and made him acquiesce to our preferences.

No need to get defensive there, i just said i understand if he got angry after 4 people joined for the wrong part of the chain. Otherwise i dont know the whole story, apart from people joining for the other quest, running the other quest, then party leader quiting.

Honestly, i can't even figure out why you even mentioned it, considreing your thread is about quest chains.

[Dragavon]

Last night, join a Co6 Elite run. The leader was a rogue/ arti/ ranger splash, so I figured traps were covered. I get in, tell him I will buff and head to the caves, and he reiterates it's just Co6. D'oh! I had spaced that. Couple other people had as well, as they piped up at that point saying no one had flagged for it. Leader is annoyed, which I understand, and we go in and do the Sorrowdusk part.

Why did you ask for GMW to be done? You could just have followed the leader as he opened Co6, no need to flag, you still get the XP and favour for completion?

I perfectly understand the leader, he probably had limited time and had to go.

If I put up an LFM for Co6 then I mean to run Co6, not GMW. Simple as that.

[Dawnsfire]

Threnal is painfully bad in a multitude of ways.
The Devs really ought to work on improving the chain so people who buy it don't wind up totally wasting their points. I've run maybe two Threnal runs start to finish since Unlimited launched.

I agree that it is pretty bad if you try to run the whole thing. I have only run it on one character all the way through and only because I wanted the mantle for a TR.

The pre-Coyle stuff isn't too bad for xp but I won't run the rest unless I really have to.

[Kromize]

Worst chain - Threnal.

I love threnal. Worst chain IMO is catacombs. Everything to do with it is crapalappa. (except for the slightly interesting quests, kinda)

As for your other question, you haven't read the lfm, so some anger on the party leaders side is understandable.

I agree. The leader probably left because he didn't have any more time to stick around. That would be why he complained about the infringement upon his play time. Just because you guys couldn't read properly you made it so he couldn't finish co6. Poor guy...

[mobrien316]

I agree with others that Threnal is the worst chain in the game.


You have to get a group together that has quite some free time to play the whole thing or you might as well not even try.


And I have had no success trying to keep an elite streak going with a cleric hireling trying to protect Coyle. If I luck into five other souls who want to torture themselves on a Friday night by slogging through this chain, great. Otherwise I generally skip it (though I have sometimes done the protection quests on casual and the rest on elite.)


If they took out the "escort" and "protect" requirements in this chain, it would probably be one of my favorites to run.

[Dandonk]

Threnal, by far. Just because of Coyle. Oh, and the stupid reflagging mechanism.

I actually like tangle. Yes, I know I'm sick and need help, but I do. With proper rushing and redoing of part 6A it's not bad xp at all, IMO.

[sebastianosmith]

Threnal! Coyle is a suicidal maniac bent on achieving Nirvana through sheer tenacity alone. He is, of course, doomed to failure in his goal as he learns nothing from one life to the next.

[sirgog]

Threnal, by far. Just because of Coyle. Oh, and the stupid reflagging mechanism.

I actually like tangle. Yes, I know I'm sick and need help, but I do. With proper rushing and redoing of part 6A it's not bad xp at all, IMO.

Threnal is good XP too, as long as you avoid the fatal mistake of trying to complete it.

Honestly I think raising Coyle's HP to the low 1000s range and giving him sensible spells is all that is needed to make the east chain good. South needs a total overhaul - the quests are fine but the flagging is just awful.

[Impaqt]

Chains of Flame.. No Doubt. I hate that long run to get to it, and the xp sucks for how long the quest is.

[Lleren]

Threnal is the worst I've so far run into.

I'd nominate Necropolis 1 , 2 , 3, and 4 for second place though. Even though you can run 1 quest at a time and don't have to do them in order.