Question about quivers...

[Goldflame]

Curious what the consensus on quivers is.. are they worth purchasing or better off going through a quest and hope one drops as a reward?

I was considering picking one up and was hoping to get some thoughts on which would be worth getting..

One would be for my lvl 4 Ranger and one for my lvl 7 Wizard.

Thanks.

[Brennie]

The consensus is they hold arrows and bolts.

I honestly am not sure what the question is. But, in typical Brennie fashion, i shall create a long-winded response anyway \o/!

Quivers can be important to any character. For someone who has NO inclination to use a bow or crossbow (IE most people) a "wide" quiver (Or the upgrade; House D favor Wide quiver) allows characters to loot arrows from quests without cluttering their inventory - In this way, they act similarly to gem bags. That ammo must be manually removed from a quiver to sell it after a quest, but then you can either sell it with the rest of your junk loot, Auction House it OR if it is a "Special" arrow hold onto it for crafting purposes (Or sell it to someone who will use it for crafting)

A list of "Special" arrows can be found HERE.

For ranged characters, quivers serve a different purpose, obviously - Holding ammo. Typically, ranged characters will want a house D "thin" quiver, in order to hold as much "basic" ammo and the special semi-returning House D ammo as is possible. Additionally, ranged characters will often use a house D "thin" quiver to carry special metal type arrows (Also bought from House D... the favor here is very important to ranged characters, if you couldn't tell ) to use for compound DR enemies, such as Devil Raidbosses, Demons, etc.

Unfortunately, do to a limitation of game mechanics, it is impossible to swap between different arrow types that are in a quiver. Your character will always reload whichever arrow is at the top of their currently equipped quiver, and will ignore arrows in any non-equipped quiver. Arcane Archers can sort of get around this by putting the metal arrow type they want to use situationally in the TOP slot of their quiver, and then having one stack of that arrow type in their inventory. Drag your AA returning arrows and your metal arrow stack to your hotbar. Now, when you click your metal arrow type, it will swap out your AA arrows, and begin drawing from the top-slot metal arrows when you reload. And if you want to stop using up your metal arrows, click your AA arrows which will put the metal arrows back into your inventory, ready to be swapped again!

There are also two named quivers - The Quivering Quiver, and the Quiver of Alacrity. The quivering quiver comes from the Harbringer of madness chain, and creates random assortments of arrows when the character is hit. The Quiver of Alacrity gives a 10% (Which in reality is closer to 5%) Ranged Alacrity boost that does NOT stack with Haste or the Blackdragonscale armor. HOWEVER, this quiver apparently has no minimum level and can be upgraded to have 30% striding. This is a huge gain for any character, since quivers are usually a wasted equipment slot. This does, however, mean it is much harder for an ACTUAL archer to get their hands on one if it comes up for roll. This quiver comes from the Ascension Chamber AKA Abbot Raid.

I hope any of this helped

[HungarianRhapsody]

All of my characters have a wide quiver of some kind. I collect slaying arrows for use in crafting, so I want quivers to keep those arrows out of my backpack spaces. I have two quivers on my main crafting character.

[Goldflame]

Thanks Brennie.

I really wanted to know if a quiver was worth the cost and if so, which to go for.

Your post definitely helps.

[Standal]

I'd pick up a wide quiver for the wizard. He will probably not use bows past a certain point, but the quiver limits the amount of space looted arrows take. up.

Just remember to empty the quiver when you dispose of trash loot.

[Brennie]

Thanks Brennie.

I really wanted to know if a quiver was worth the cost and if so, which to go for.

Your post definitely helps.

Glad i could help! Sorry i went on about stuff that wasn't really related to your question ^_^ Quick recap, for brevity sake:

• Quivers are totally worth it (Especially since "basic" quivers are dirt cheap)!

• Basic wide quiver for any non bow/crossbow character, turn on auto-collect and use it as extra storage.

• House D thin quiver(s) for Ranged characters. If you can make your own generic ammo (AA's and Artificers), then just stock up on Silver/cold iron/adamantine. Otherwise, put those in a secondary quiver, and stock up on +1/+3 house D returning arrows/bolts and generic arrows/bolts - Enough to last many, many quests.

I'd pick up a wide quiver for the wizard. He will probably not use bows past a certain point, but the quiver limits the amount of space looted arrows take. up.

Just remember to empty the quiver when you dispose of trash loot.

Don't dispose of all of them! Save, trade or Auction House any "of <monster type> slaying" arrows or Greater Elemental Bane arrows, as they are rare and used for crafting (ESPECIALLY lawful outsider, evil outsider, construct, chaotic outsider and undead slaying). Note that GREATER <monster type> slaying arrows as well as other (non Greater Elemental Bane) bane/greater bane arrows do not count for crafting, but may still sell on the AH due to their unique utility.

[Goldflame]

Thanks again Brennie and and thank you Standal.

I found some on the DDO store and was thinking about one of those but will definitely hit the auction and see what is available.

The game has changed so much since I last played and am still trying to get re-acquainted with all the new features. Thinking tonight will be a '090 class' on crafting. I will have to go through all the 'old' loot and rewards I have to see what is craftable.. It would be great if a +4 docent I have can be.

[BitkaCK2]

Just a small bit to add, I always keep a stack masterwork arrows/bolts equipped (except on my arti) even though I generally use returning thrown weapons. This is because I've noticed that they tend to get destroyed from combat before potions and stuff in my backpack.

bitkaCK2

[LrdSlvrhnd]

Oh gawd, do NOT purchase a quiver from either the AH or the DDO store. Go to the Hammer & Chain in the Harbor or the House D weapon shop (which name escapes me at the moment) and pick one up from the missile vendor. I'm positive you can purchase one for less than the 10pp minimum price the AH requires.

And EVERY character should have a wide quiver (the six-slot one) if only to clear up inventory space.

[Brennie]

Oh gawd, do NOT purchase a quiver from either the AH or the DDO store. Go to the Hammer & Chain in the Harbor or the House D weapon shop (which name escapes me at the moment) and pick one up from the missile vendor. I'm positive you can purchase one for less than the 10pp minimum price the AH requires. (...)

THIS! You can get them for literally pocket change from the Hammer and Chain, no need to go spending Turbine Points on em!

(Positive rep for steering players AWAY from the absolute "Newbie Trap" junk they try to sell on the DDO store. The fact that stuff even exists makes me sick.)

[Brennie]

(...)The game has changed so much since I last played and am still trying to get re-acquainted with all the new features. Thinking tonight will be a '090 class' on crafting. I will have to go through all the 'old' loot and rewards I have to see what is craftable.. It would be great if a +4 docent I have can be.

(Sorry for the double post)

You're welcome... again I am DREADFULLY sorry i didn't mention WHERE to get the basic quivers (Hammer and Chain in the harbor, Or in House D as LrdSlvrHnd mentioned). The AH usually puts quivers up for significantly more than base price, in order to trick newbies, and the DDO store is just blatant about its attempt to trick newbies into buying stuff that is widely and incredibly EASILY available in-game (never, ever, EVER buy weapons, armor, quivers or ammunition from the store, as you can almost certainly get the same items in game for trivial amounts of platinum. Potions, scrolls, wands, +1 tomes and the like are usually also easily available, but "big spenders" might just toss around the TP if they don't really mind the real-world cost)

Getting away from the thread topic, crafting is an entirely different kettle of fish. the basic jist of it, is that in order to "craft" items, you will first need to gain crafting levels. To gain crafting levels, take any junk loot you have with prefixes/suffixes (IE anything that is not just a straight +x weapon/armor/shield) and decontruct it in the deconstruction machine. This will give you some minor XP and Essences! Essences are used to craft new items - but only if you have the required craftign levels to make those items! So you will typically have to collect a lot of essences, and start with the low-level crafting, and work your way up to the more advanced/better options! I find high 30s and low 40s to be a good goal for a casual crafter.

Crafting is actually a BIT more complicated than that, what with having to turn items into blanks, and creating prefix/suffix shards, shards of potential, yadda yadda... sufficed to say, its something you will work on gradually, and not simply be able to use right out of the box.

PS - What server are you on? I'd be happy to help set you up if you're on Khyber, or... attempt to on Sarlona (Which i don't play on anymore, so that might be a lot more hit or miss).

PPS - I liked that purple XD

[Goldflame]

Thanks LrdSlvrhnd and Brennie about the input on the DDO store and the AH..

I am a casual player at the moment. There was a time, when the game launched (yep.. been around this game since then..), that it was nothing to play 6 - 8 hours at a time. One great thing is my significant other also plays..

There was a time when I knew where to go for all the best costs and trade-in values. Unfortunately I don't always have the time to read through and find where to buy, quest, etc. for certain items / rewards and don't have too much of an issue buying and using TPs to get some items. Grinding was a lot of fun when we had more time to spend that way.. now that is not really always an option as there are many other areas in life we choose to spend time on.

That being said I do like "spaving" and will check out Hammer and Chain and House D.

Server... We play on the Sarlona shard as our prime shard since this is where we started in 2006 and where our guild was founded... though we have some avatars on Orien as well.

Crafting Tried it last night and found it fun once I figured it out.. made a flame maul then realized it was BTA.. not happy about that.. I would greatly appreciate any help you are willing to offer...

[Brennie]

Alright, well I've sent you a private message (Check the upper right of the forums page) so that we can coordinate a Sarlona thingamajig. I'm really just writign this because it is so easy to miss the fact you have messages unless you already knew to look there... I think my messages are usually there atleast a week before i noticed them >_>.

Also: Welcome to the wonderful world of crafting \o/. Bound shards make Bound to Character items, and unbound shards make unbound items (But at higher essence cost, and requiring twice the crating levels per shard). There is a trick, however, that Bound to Account items stay Bound to Account, even when the Bound to Character shards are crafted onto them (You can get BtA armor and equipment from the various Sharn Syndicate quest rewards, and you can get BtA weapons from quest chains ilke WW or every 3rd run of Tide Turns)

Also: You are totally stealing my color thing

[Goldflame]

Also: You are totally stealing my color thing

Imitation .. is the greatest form of appreciation

[Ganolyn]

Oh gawd, do NOT purchase a quiver from... the DDO store.

This is not entirely good advice. The Large Thin Quiver and Large Wide Quiver from the store are the best quivers in the game in terms of storage options and amount you can store. They only cost 240 TP and go on sale fairly regularly for less than that. No in game quiver comes close to their storage capacity and you can use them at 1st level if you want to. The smaller quivers from the store are OK, but why buy less storage capacity when you can get ones that carry 6000 units (either 20 slots x 300 or 4 slots x 1500)? House D quivers, while very useful, can't be used until you gain the favor to buy them. The only thing bad about the large store quivers is that they are BTC. I wish they would make them BTA as it would make moving large quantities of ammo around much eaiser.

[Alrik_Fassbauer]

What's the fuzz ? I have bought both quivers from that weapons shop in House Phiarlan for I think it was less than 10 Platinum. I'm content with that.

And of course I have put the haggle item on.

Edit : I don't know whether the prices are so low because of Phiarlan favour ? I really have no idea ...