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    Default Tome retention - allow +3 trade in for purified eberron shards

    Minor issue, but I have some +3s stored up on toons that won't need them now since tome retention on TRs. Not much else to take on 20ths anyway once you have your gear. Now those tomes are worthless.

    Let us crunch them into something or make end rewards BTA or something.
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    It's a bit ironic that they actually had this in place for a little while, but took it out because of the outrage.

    Still, doesn't seem a bad idea to me what with them being bound and all (I think?)

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    /signed.

    Simply because I'm amused at the thought of demanding they change it back.

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    /signed

    To be expected really. When you change game mechanics, expect complaints and desires to change.

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    /sighed

    good call

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    /not signed due to the sheer number of people that exploited chests in challenges that have dozens of toons stocked up on +3 tomes. It sucks for people that have the raid reward ones but theres not much that can be done about those.

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    now thats something that never occurred to me. +3 tomes arent going to be as needed soon. i think they should become unbound tomes to trade/sell/crunch. biggest reasons why i even do hard/elite hounds and vods is for the tomes i dont have, so whats the point if they can be carried over to next life and i already have the loot i want from the raids? either way, its definitely something that needs to be considered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superspeed_Hi5 View Post
    /not signed due to the sheer number of people that exploited chests in challenges that have dozens of toons stocked up on +3 tomes. It sucks for people that have the raid reward ones but theres not much that can be done about those.
    The +3 tomes that come from challenge chests are not bound. Those can be moved to characters that still need that flavor of tome or they can be sold to other players.

    The only time someone would use the option of crunching a +3 tome into purified Eberron dragonshards is if they had a second BtC tome of a flavor that they had already eaten. No one would do that with an unbound +3 tome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superspeed_Hi5 View Post
    /not signed due to the sheer number of people that exploited chests in challenges that have dozens of toons stocked up on +3 tomes. It sucks for people that have the raid reward ones but theres not much that can be done about those.
    why should those of us who never took part in this exploit be punished for what we didnt do?

    Quote Originally Posted by HungarianRhapsody View Post
    The +3 tomes that come from challenge chests are not bound. Those can be moved to characters that still need that flavor of tome or they can be sold to other players.

    The only time someone would use the option of crunching a +3 tome into purified Eberron dragonshards is if they had a second BtC tome of a flavor that they had already eaten. No one would do that with an unbound +3 tome.
    True it wouldnt even bother those who took part in the exploits at all just needlessly punish the rest of us.
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    Lol even if they did this I would feel sad about crunching +3 tomes for 16 purified shards... how lame
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    /not signed for the original reason that they won't go up for roll any more if you can trade them in for the purified shards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathdefy View Post
    /not signed for the original reason that they won't go up for roll any more if you can trade them in for the purified shards.
    Agreed. Not everyone has all the +3s they want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathdefy View Post
    /not signed for the original reason that they won't go up for roll any more if you can trade them in for the purified shards.
    A +3 tome would give 16 purified Eberron dragonshards = (3+1)^2.
    A +1 tome gives 4 purified Eberron dragonshards = (1+1)^2.

    I'm pretty sure that someone who gets a +3 tome passed to them in a raid would be willing to spend the 80k - 100k to buy four +1 tomes to mail to the person who just gave them a +3 tome.

    I don't anticipate that people would loot +3 tomes to crunch up any more than people loot raid items because they want the plat that they would get from vendoring. Yes, it happens, but only when absolutely no one else wants the item.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathdefy View Post
    /not signed for the original reason that they won't go up for roll any more if you can trade them in for the purified shards.
    This for a while.

    Once +3s drop in random lootgen enough that they are no longer very rare, then allow crunching.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathdefy View Post
    /not signed for the original reason that they won't go up for roll any more if you can trade them in for the purified shards.
    If you play with people who would take a +3 to crunch it you need to reconsider the people you run with...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Superspeed_Hi5 View Post
    /not signed due to the sheer number of people that exploited chests in challenges that have dozens of toons stocked up on +3 tomes. It sucks for people that have the raid reward ones but theres not much that can be done about those.
    Do you know of anyone with dozens of toons stocked with ill-gotten +3 tomes? Or are you just making baseless accusations based on your cognitive bias?
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    Quote Originally Posted by aurum1 View Post
    Minor issue, but I have some +3s stored up on toons that won't need them now since tome retention on TRs. Not much else to take on 20ths anyway once you have your gear. Now those tomes are worthless.

    Let us crunch them into something or make end rewards BTA or something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Superspeed_Hi5 View Post
    /not signed due to the sheer number of people that exploited chests in challenges that have dozens of toons stocked up on +3 tomes. It sucks for people that have the raid reward ones but theres not much that can be done about those.
    Would be funny if as punishment Turbine converted all those +3 tomes into Vacuous Grimoires, with their permanent ability drain. Each would weigh 100lbs and be stuck to their inventory slot until read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aurum1 View Post
    If you play with people who would take a +3 to crunch it you need to reconsider the people you run with...
    It's called PUGging. You don't know whether that person is a fool or not.
    I don't have a zerging problem.

    I'm zerging. That's YOUR problem.

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